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Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes |OT| Kaz, I'm already a demo
- Thread starter BurnOutBrighter
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I'll have to give it a shot at some point. I'm going to end up sinking way more time into this game than I already thought I would. Jeeez.
Long enough, but not as long as CQC SUPAH-SLAMS do and even less than GET DOWNs.
RadioHeadAche said:
I don't see why not. So long as you don't fire a bullet, I don't see what makes it different from CQC choke-holds?
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
Yeah, but that doesn't change that it's a far distance to get from target A to target B without using tranq.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I really want to know what the next Metal Gear Online will be like. The controls are solid, but I'm worried about the overall experience. I'd like there to be lobbies again, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was matchmaking-only like every other thing.
Yeah, how do you slam people with CQC in this game?
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
For multiplayer, TPP needs LAN support like Uncharted 3, too. Playing this locally would be great.
Tap the CQC button when you're near them. If there is a group of them, you can "chain" CQC's when the prompt returns with an extra hand. It took Peace Walker's CQC system and put it in the game. They've dumbed down CQC since MGS4 or so and while it "plays" better it also doesn't give too many options.
Wow. I had no idea. I guess I usually just grab them when I hold them up.
bodyofanamerican
Member
Man, you just nailed how I feel about this. I was initially nonplussed about his casting, but man he's a great choice and sounds fantastic in GZ. My hype for TPP is back at critical levels.
I think that, initially, this all felt too different to me. The new, next-gen Snake, the new voice, the gameplay changes, I just didn't think it was going to be "Metal Gear".
Sure enough, Kojima has proven me totally wrong. By the time that last part of the ending cutscene started (the
return to the destroyed Mother Base, and Snake firing the gun out of the chopper
My point is that this is definitely, 100% Metal Gear Solid. Cannot fucking wait for the full game.
Lastly, I couldn't agree more with your point about the break needing to be made. Totally true.
edit: can someone please tell me how to do the GET DOWN move?
TheCthultist
Member
Just finished the initial mission. Was really taking my time with it simply because I didn't want to miss anything my first time through... and goddamn did I miss stuff! Started out doing it all very sneaky, very by-the-books, right up until I saw
for such a short mission the number of possibilities are enormous.
the first tank. At which point my entire rest of the playthrough was dedicated to evacuating Paz in the loudest, heaviest, most over-the-top shoot-out style rescue attempt I've ever been a part of in a Metal Gear game.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Haha! I played the same way. I gave up cause there is no way I could've finished that mission all stealthy. Will find more ways next time!
pugwishbone
Neo Member
I don't think I will be getting faster than that
Just did the main mission and a couple of side ops.
They really nailed the gameplay in this one. Everything is just so fluid, and the controls are not terrible for once, aside from when trying to interrogate someone during a hold up.
Man, the full game is going to spectacular.
They really nailed the gameplay in this one. Everything is just so fluid, and the controls are not terrible for once, aside from when trying to interrogate someone during a hold up.
Man, the full game is going to spectacular.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Stuff I noticed playing today:
- Bullet drop is absolutely not a factor in first-person view at least. Your bullets are lasers when lined up perfectly with the iron sights or sniper rifle reticle. If you're not going for nonlethal, the suppressed assault rifle absolutely decimates enemies with headshots. The enemy hitboxes are really well done in this game, very accurate to the character models.
- If you put a guard to sleep in a watchtower, instead of climbing up a buddy guard will yell up at him to wake up.
- First person controls are freaking great. Highly recommend them. Other than the benefit of no bullet drop as mentioned above, you can be very mobile while in first-person too. You can open doors in FPV and when you approach a waist-high barrier Snake will actually raise his knees a little bit so you can shoot over it. It's perfect.
- Normally sprinting into barriers or walls does nothing, but if you sprint into a guard or metal pole Snake will brace for impact and crash into it.
- You know that revolver that shoots nonlethal ammo? When you reload you actually reload exactly as much as you shot. If you shot twice, Snake only loads two rounds in the cylinder. If you shot once, it's only one round loaded for the animation.
Also just finished listening to all the tapes. I am so ready for Phantom Pain.
- Bullet drop is absolutely not a factor in first-person view at least. Your bullets are lasers when lined up perfectly with the iron sights or sniper rifle reticle. If you're not going for nonlethal, the suppressed assault rifle absolutely decimates enemies with headshots. The enemy hitboxes are really well done in this game, very accurate to the character models.
- If you put a guard to sleep in a watchtower, instead of climbing up a buddy guard will yell up at him to wake up.
- First person controls are freaking great. Highly recommend them. Other than the benefit of no bullet drop as mentioned above, you can be very mobile while in first-person too. You can open doors in FPV and when you approach a waist-high barrier Snake will actually raise his knees a little bit so you can shoot over it. It's perfect.
- Normally sprinting into barriers or walls does nothing, but if you sprint into a guard or metal pole Snake will brace for impact and crash into it.
- You know that revolver that shoots nonlethal ammo? When you reload you actually reload exactly as much as you shot. If you shot twice, Snake only loads two rounds in the cylinder. If you shot once, it's only one round loaded for the animation.
Also just finished listening to all the tapes. I am so ready for Phantom Pain.
Got all of the cassette tapes. Man, that took forever. Some of them are really well hidden and others require you to fulfill certain requirements during missions.
All that's left is to unlock all the trials, and I'll have all of the trophies. From there, S Ranking all of the missions on Hard will get me to 100%.
Real talk though, playing this has made me hopeful that Phantom Pain could literally be the best game ever for me. The gameplay is practically perfect and knowing that so many more dynamic factors and a hopefully stellar story are coming in TPP get me extremely excited for it. Does anyone else feel the same?
It's here. R2, then L1.
All that's left is to unlock all the trials, and I'll have all of the trophies. From there, S Ranking all of the missions on Hard will get me to 100%.
Real talk though, playing this has made me hopeful that Phantom Pain could literally be the best game ever for me. The gameplay is practically perfect and knowing that so many more dynamic factors and a hopefully stellar story are coming in TPP get me extremely excited for it. Does anyone else feel the same?
It's here. R2, then L1.
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
I don't think I will be getting faster than that
I said goddamn.
do you mean that CQC combo of stealing enemies' weapon shown on E3 trailer? You can do it on GZ.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
I timed all the ways I could think of earlier. Here's the shortest to longest:
Backwards Slam - 50 seconds.
Forward Slam / Push into object - 1 minute.
Sleeping > Carry > Throw - 1 minute.
Choke-out / Slam into wall - 4 minutes.
Tranq to the head - 5 minutes.
CQC Beatdown - 30 freaking minutes!
They should have got Kurt Russell for full meta-ness.
What about GET DOWNs?
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Cool, thought so. They go on alert if they're seen by someone else though, iirc. Makes it hard to choose between that and tranqs.
What? This kinda breaks the game
peace walker was super easy when you can stick up everybody and they don't do shit
Man, I like how the cutscenes vary depending on what you've done before.
On my first playthrough I went straight to chico and opened his cell first. During the cutscene Snake was looking at the other POWs as they were screaming for help, and the camera would look at them. On my third playthrough now, I saved all the POWs first and left Chico for the end, and the cutscene was slightly different, with the camera just looking at Snake and Chico, without moving towards the other cells.
And there's been other stuff that people said here, like if you bring Chico to the helicopter running and just put him up, the tape will drop from his pocket, but if you actually take your time and drop him on the ground before the helicopter comes, he will make you listen to a bit of the tape and then give it to you. Cool stuff!
Can't wait for TPP now, but it's going to be such a long wait...
On my first playthrough I went straight to chico and opened his cell first. During the cutscene Snake was looking at the other POWs as they were screaming for help, and the camera would look at them. On my third playthrough now, I saved all the POWs first and left Chico for the end, and the cutscene was slightly different, with the camera just looking at Snake and Chico, without moving towards the other cells.
And there's been other stuff that people said here, like if you bring Chico to the helicopter running and just put him up, the tape will drop from his pocket, but if you actually take your time and drop him on the ground before the helicopter comes, he will make you listen to a bit of the tape and then give it to you. Cool stuff!
Can't wait for TPP now, but it's going to be such a long wait...
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
So, about the MGSV iOS/Android app: Anyone knows if the app stores ingame data on the device, or does it just work as an intermedary and all data stays on the console? The app runs like shit on my phone (iPhone 3GS) so I was thinking of borrowing someone else's tablet or something for a while.
autobzooty
Member
I got spoiled on the contents of the déjà vu mission before I unlocked it myself. Is it story related or just a goofy thing?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Totally a goofy thing.
autobzooty
Member
That's good. Was afraid I ruined something for myself.
I dunno, I think all of the mechanics in this game have been rebalanced quite nicely. Tranq is no longer a weapon from god and on top of that it's ammo is appropriately scarce. Enemies don't just stay asleep forever anymore either. If you scroll through all the loading screen tips, they tell you how effective various knockout methods are and how long enemies stay unconscious, with choke outs being as effective as tranqs, cqc throws being least effective, and the cqc combo being most effective.
Given all these changes, the fact that there is an ability to indefinitely take someone out of the picture if you catch them in a place where they're completely alone and no patrol will ever come by (since I don't think you can drag them after you hold them up) doesn't seem so bad to me. Plus you have to get right up on them and it actually does take a little bit of time.
But I agree with you about peace walker. By the end of that game I felt like I had pretty much solved it. Hope the same doesn't happen here.
KittenMaster
Member
Knight is having a meltdown on his Ground Zeroes stream at the time of this post. Got into an argument with a stream monster about Kojima's intentions with MGS2 and it is glorious.
When he finally gets back to playing the game, it looks like he developed a strat (or found a strat somewhere) for playing the hardest way possible, no alerts, no reflex, no hud elements, no retries, etc.
When he finally gets back to playing the game, it looks like he developed a strat (or found a strat somewhere) for playing the hardest way possible, no alerts, no reflex, no hud elements, no retries, etc.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Dude that anti-air mission that takes place in the morning is beautiful. The light source doesn't just change the sun's position and some shadows; afternoon has a distinct look from morning.
MikeBreezy92
Member
So for the MGO heads in the thread, what can you guys pick up from the main game stuff that can be carried over into MGO3. Vehicles seem interesting and it seems like we could be using Binoculars as a replacement for SOP.
Nothing. MGO isn't in GZ.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
No I think he was just asking what you guys THINK will be in MGO for TPP breh
Yes, 7.
You can check out collectibles progress in the Data Review (or w/e it was called) from the main menu!
He's asking about possibilities for when it is out with TPP.
Thank you!
I think the Mother Base is only for the iDroid app.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I dunno but I'm very excited. Game controls like a dream for me. I'm interested in seeing what they do with CQC this time around. It'd be cool if you could counter (like the final fight in MGS3) and then counter the counter; get some kind of rally going on till one player flubs it....
....or a third party shoots one of you in the head. XD
EDIT: Good call on the binoculars. I was wondering how they'd tie SOP in. Such a great mechanic.
nillapuddin
Member
Guys Im really stuck, on the Intel Acquisition mission Im trying to mark all the enemies, last night I played for hours and couldnt find everyone, now this morning I wanted to "take care of it real quick" and Im stuck on 25/26 again. Im shooting rockets everyone, blowing up cameras, and theres just nothing, everyone on the map is tranq'd and the only thing I can do now is just finish the mission
Is there a really really really well hidden guy or something?
Is there a really really really well hidden guy or something?
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Check the guard posts by the road exits?
Or kill everyone else, go up to the big tower and see if you can spot him with the NVG on. Maybe the guy that drops the tape only spawns after you interrogate the informant?