I hear you. Wish there was a way to make it the same as MGS4. Is there a control scheme I'm missing?
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Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes |OT| Kaz, I'm already a demo
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I hear you. Wish there was a way to make it the same as MGS4. Is there a control scheme I'm missing?
FrankWza
Member
Good deal.Are you just getting into the series? Looking to catch up so you can play GZ?
The Stealth Fox
Junior Member
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
They really want you to aim your weapon to do anything apparently... you can't move laterally, roll, turn on your back or anything without aiming first.
Pretty dumb and needlessly cumbersome imo, but hey... who am I.
Yup. Played half of 4. Was too lost and never completed.
Why does the collection start with 3? I know story why is chronological, but not release order.
Yeah, I hope that changes. I'd also like to just do a stalking run with nothing but my knife. Wish I could drop weapons.
FrankWza
Member
Yeah that doesn't sound possible. I guess I suck. Also, He should have spoiler tagged that part about the rescue.
Steverulez
Member
I agree with the rest of your post, I think its a great start, but the actual main mission is very short, theres enough to keep me busy for a while but I would have liked that and some more content. I only paid £20 for it on Xbox One which I guess was a fair price but they could have significantly improved the value if it had at least included a small part of MGO to give people more of a reason to play it for longer.
Spoilery for the ending cutscene
It would be nice if we could have could have taken control of Big Boss to do some stuff on the platform before it goes down but maybe thats just me.
Also, they need to hurry the fuck up with TPP
There is absolutely no context under which that line could've been conveyed with the necessary anger.
He did try, though.
I literally do not believe the guy.
FrankWza
Member
I think 3 was done so they could have it there for PW which he wanted in more player hands with the better control scheme since it was a PSP title. Also, they were probably the easiest to upgrade which is why MGS1 isn't in it. It's is probably best to play them in release order,especially for your first time. But if you just want to get to GZ play SE watch portable ops movie on youtube then play PW then GZ.
AHA-Lambda
Member
My brother just finished GZ actually and laughed his ass off at that line xD
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
To move laterally or roll you would have to hold another button down anyway so may as well be aim. I do miss the ability to lay on your back though even if I never used it a single time in 4 across multiple playthroughs. I'm glad they didn't bring back the worm, as funny as it looked.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
So regarding the ending.
When we got to Outer Haven if felt so much like an intro that for a second I actually thought that TPP was included on the disc and Kojima had worked with every news outlet and played the ultimate long con and pulled a MGS2 style dupe.
I was convinced for a fleeting moment I was about to take control and play 20 hours of gameplay.
Alas
When we got to Outer Haven if felt so much like an intro that for a second I actually thought that TPP was included on the disc and Kojima had worked with every news outlet and played the ultimate long con and pulled a MGS2 style dupe.
I was convinced for a fleeting moment I was about to take control and play 20 hours of gameplay.
Alas
You can lay on your back in this as well. Just can't scoot anywhere.
Did you input the Konami code?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
That was Mother Base, not Outer Heaven! Similar concept, and both look like the Big Shell from MGS2 although Mother Base did not necessarily have the helix DNA shape and we have only seen the Heliport of Outer Heaven. OH is in South Africa. Notice a little blurb about a certain desert at the end?
edit: wait no nevermind I forgot BB called Mother Base OH at the end of PW
Ya that's what I meant, to manually switch yourself on your back.
Phantom Pain could be an amazing game. MGS4 was very mediocre with a poor storyline. The gameplay was almost bearable towards the end of the game. The last great MGS came out about a decade ago. MGS3 (which is coincidentally the last MGS game where David Hayter wasn't terrible, but wasn't great either)
Imagine the size of Camp Omega about 4 times bigger. Now imagine 4 or 5 other maps that big with an array of side missions, main missions and a boss in each map. With the choice and ability to travel to any of these "worlds" via helicopter when ever you please. Imagine all this with the lack of over dramatic, terribly written cut scenes that overstay their welcome.
I can't wait for Phantom Pain
Also: Kiefer Sutherland's big boss>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Hayter's
Imagine the size of Camp Omega about 4 times bigger. Now imagine 4 or 5 other maps that big with an array of side missions, main missions and a boss in each map. With the choice and ability to travel to any of these "worlds" via helicopter when ever you please. Imagine all this with the lack of over dramatic, terribly written cut scenes that overstay their welcome.
I can't wait for Phantom Pain
Also: Kiefer Sutherland's big boss>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Hayter's
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Thank you, I knew I had something mixed up and couldnt work out what.
I feel ashamed to call myself a MGS fan now.
The Stealth Fox
Junior Member
When reflex mode is disabled, guards should have to radio in before the whole base goes on alert, like in previous MGS games. I don't really understand why they took this out. Otherwise, the game is great.
I just hope I can summon some members of Mother Base 2.0 to help me storm an enemy facility, MGS4 Act 2 style. Those kinds of gameplay options would be awesome.
Rogue Agent
Banned
A long time ago, Kojima mentioned something like bringing a companion with you for a mission. Not sure if that means a dog or a Mother Base soldier, or if this feature will even make it into the game.
I wish they'd add a few more animations for certain movements to really flesh it all out and have you slinking around in style. It's miles better than it's ever been, but hurdling waist high things is still a little stiff. The way he hops over a fence could transition a little smoother, and him constantly having to be facing directly forward is a little off.
Also, for things like magazine tosses, is there not just a quick fire button to toss it the general area you're pointing? I'm guessing no since there doesn't seem to be a blind fire option either.
Also, for things like magazine tosses, is there not just a quick fire button to toss it the general area you're pointing? I'm guessing no since there doesn't seem to be a blind fire option either.
Pankratous
Member
I can't get over how bad Kiefer is.
In fact, he's not even bad, but nor is he good. He's just there. The non-story prisoners you rescue have better voice acting. At least Hayter gave Snake a personality.
In fact, he's not even bad, but nor is he good. He's just there. The non-story prisoners you rescue have better voice acting. At least Hayter gave Snake a personality.
In a cast made up of human beings in a serious dramatic gaming series, David Hayter made Snake sound like a cartoon character.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
You did not just call Metal Gear, a "serious dramatic gaming series."
In Kiefer's performance I hear the stoic, battle-hardened soldier that you are led to believe Snake becomes after the events of MGS3.
He shouldn't be chirpy/hammy. Solid Snake was sarcastic enough where that performance worked, but it doesn't fit Big Boss as he stands (following Snake Eater).
Go play MGS4. That game isn't up its own ass? The story is a joke, now look at the writing.
Yeah it takes itself pretty damn serious.
Well it's nice that Ground Zeroes is appealing to newcomers!
It doesn't have to be nuanced to outdo Hayter.
Pankratous
Member
He's not wrong.
It's about politics, love, warfare, murder, traitors, fighting for the greater good, espionage, and essentially, world domination in MGS4. I'd say that's pretty serious, and dramatic.
It's also a gaming series.
FrankWza
Member
Yeah...just there. Let's see how he is in TPP and future releases. At this point he's in it and we'll just have to hope for the best. But he didn't have much to do here voice acting wise and the codecs have changed too which gave him even less.
If bad anime story with a returning character that can't control his bowels is serious to you, I don't know what to tell you.
Been playing the games since 2003. Beat each one multiple times. All of the games are full of over dramatic characters delivering painfully terrible lines of dialogue. There are jokes and quips thrown in here and there it doesn't stop it from being a game with serious themes.
The gameplay is super, but as someone who doesn't get a kick out of replaying things I'm not happy. It wasn't an acceptable level of content for 35 euros, not to me. It really did feel like an extended demo. 10-15 euros would have been perfect.
I really expected the camp to be bigger, so that side ops would take place in different areas. The size of the camp really surprised me, I kept thinking I could go through gates or such only to find that it was the border of the map.
The second thing is that I was expecting a full prologue story. There's barely any story here. One extraction, followed by one attack, almost entirely out of context if you haven't played or don't remember Peace Walker. It was the lack of story that probably shocked me the most... My appetite for Phantom Pain was not whetted at all by those two cutscenes.
My final verdict is that it was a cynical cash grab for a company that desperately needs some cash. Unfortunately the series is so good I'll be there day one anyway, but I'm selling Ground Zeroes tomorrow and hope I get at least 25 euros back.
A COUPLE OF JOKES AND QUIPS thrown into game about NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST AND POLITICS GONE WRONG. About death in the "battlefield" and the pain that comes with war.
This series takes itself seriously. A little to seriously sometimes. If only it had good writing.
Pankratous
Member
Every good gaming series has comedy, serious or not.
MGS is shit when it goes full serious. It's best moments are almost always comedy. That's why MGS2 is my least favourite, and why I loved MGS Rising. The story is terribly written if it's meant to be a serious thriller / drama. But as a kind of uber-skit on action movies that occasionally touches on some deeper subjects it's pretty much unparalleled. With this new direction it looks like I may have misunderstood Kojima's intent with his series all along.
Your favorite metal gear game isn't a metal gear game, buddy boy.
FrankWza
Member
I agree with this. Solid is better as a cocky wiseguy. BB just can't be that guy with what he has been through and it doesn't make sense with what he is about to become.
SJRB
Gold Member
Yes, I think you may have.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
The anti-air one is pretty good. An optional objective + a fun story.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Oh wow. The fact that an actual human being believes that is both hilarious, and concerning to me.
The Silver
Member
Man I really don't like how Mother Base went down like a stack of cards, I spent untold hours getting the best of the best soldiers to fill up the base and then they all go down like a bunch of redshirts.
Right, and what you are telling me is on all the missions you went for, you S ranked them on your first try?...