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Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes |OT| Kaz, I'm already a demo
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StalkerUKCG
Banned
It's not too crazy. Some people are stupid good at metal gear.
Or maybe it isn't bad writing, and is just being purposefully over-the-top and cheesy.
Y'know like:
The part when you're fighting mechs
The part where it seems as if someone is being taken over because someone has another person's arm.
The part where weird shit is simply explained by nanomachines.
The part where Meryl marries a Joke character from MGS 1.
The part, (also known as entire games,) where the entire plot is just an over-dramatic/hyperboled version of popular spy movies.
The part where Psycho Mantis tells you you've been playing a certain game.
The part where Snake talks about his obsession with cardboard boxes in MGS 3.
The part where Raikov is named after Raiden, with many jokes at his usage in MGS 2.
The part where a guard pisses off the top of a cell as you move along in MGS 2.
The part where you fight fucking Fatman.
The fact that MGS is self-aware of its stupidity from MGS 2 onward.
And this is just a "few quips" of the many ways in which the game is blatantly doing something over the top or hilarious.
Edit: And why would Kojima say he's pushing for MGS 5 to be "serious" if it was already "serious" in the first place?
I guess. But this isn't the MGS we all knew. New controls and rules to play by. Just seems crazy to me that someone waltzes into this and S ranks all the missions he tries.
SJRB
Gold Member
Yeah, only problem is that the tape is in a different location in the 12 minute gameplay trailer.
That's the only one I haven't finished(and the deja vu thing). I just got fed up by the time I loaded it. I don't think there's any real variety here offered by these things, and the Kojima mission was pretty much a light gun shooter arcade game.
So I saw Kaz say that when I completed that one today. Do I interrogate someone else to find it, or do I just gotta hunt it down on my own? Why would the informant lie?
FrankWza
Member
SJRB
Gold Member
Why indeed. Go ask him.
[Side Ops are better thought out than some give them credit for]
StalkerUKCG
Banned
All the controls aside rolling are intuitive and if you have the MGS mindset (Don't attract attention, Don't Kill etc) and the Skill required then you could S rank most missions first time without any issue really.
I mean if you look at the main mission it's straight forward enough to get an S rank. I had some trouble with the 2nd extraction but I feel I was being more than a little stupid with that.
You basically make your way in a relatively straight line, do a escort mission round the corner, jump in a truck which gets your past the most difficult section and then look at your map and plan a route back to the safe evac with your second escort.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Wow doing the deja vu mission
when you have to use the uv light on the logos, Metal Gear Ghost Babel, MGS
OPS and RISING don't disappear when you put the light on them and Kaz says "they're nothing special"
Also he goes "I don't remember that one" or "Metal Gear...What?!
OPS and RISING don't disappear when you put the light on them and Kaz says "they're nothing special"Also he goes "I don't remember that one" or "Metal Gear...What?!
The Silver
Member
its not fair, all that R&D, all that Fultoning, and then a bunch of jackasses in helicopters takes all that down.
Revengeance will be extracted in Phantom Pain.
SJRB
Gold Member
Yeah, you are right, BUT: if you read the description of the achievements, it says to leave the mission on a truck. So the first thing I did was taking the truck, then it stops on the base. Here you can find only the tower on the left, so I went here and the tape was here. I went back to the truck, but it didn't move because there wasn't a pilot. I moved around a bit, then I saw the pilot was back, I mounted again on the truck (because I can't guide it by myself, there were too many guards and you can be spotted easily).
I saw again the video and yes, the tape is in a different tower, the one where there's the Kojima red door area,
So I think I just get lucky here XD
But there are only six tower if I remember well, and I only waited on the truck because Kaz was talking, so I don't know
Cool. What about the second tape?
when you've knocked out the informant keep an eye on him, once he goes to a certain position and stays there, keep your distance and spy on him. all will become clear after that.
it's best to use the guard tower as a signal to get him over rather than trying to find him. you'll have less of a distance to travel and less chance of getting caught while tailing the informant.
it's best to use the guard tower as a signal to get him over rather than trying to find him. you'll have less of a distance to travel and less chance of getting caught while tailing the informant.
FrankWza
Member
I'd be pissed if that was spoiled for me. I stopped looking at GZ info once the leak went wide.
monocle_wearing_hyrax
Neo Member
Is anyone here playing the current gen versions. How are they? when comparing 360 vs PS3. I heard that the PS3 version has slightly lower FPS in some areas.
FrankWza
Member
Played ps3 and ps4. It's fine on ps3. It's not so much that you notice the dips on ps3 but you see the smoothness on ps4 more if that makes sense. Also, to me the ps3 loses more during day missions that ps4.
1. Never said it was my favourite. It's not. MGS3 and 4 are my two favourites.
2. It's a Metal Gear game. It's there in the title.
It was released on the original PlayStation, yeah.
plasmawave
Banned
I'm loving the deja-vu mission. The MGS1 music is awesome.
Even on PS3 the lighting is actually pretty impressive at points outside the egregious shadow dithering.
Also, I felt like I did terribly on that helicopter rescue mission but apparently I got an S rank despite retrying five times. I guess going all non-lethal counts for a lot.
Also, I felt like I did terribly on that helicopter rescue mission but apparently I got an S rank despite retrying five times. I guess going all non-lethal counts for a lot.
Yeah, that's the annoying thing. The informant lies, so you go back to him after getting the tape and ask him again, but he has no more info. So who do you ask? I've been all over the base multiple times, I'll never figure it out.
Yep. I like how you actually have to figure out where objectives are and how they move around. A lot of hallmarks of good open stealth game design in Ground Zeroes. Makes me really optimistic for Phantom Pain.
To be honest, GZ reminds me more of Thief than any other stealth game, at least in terms of the philosophy behind its level design.
Only the Mega-CD version got Western releases.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
After the original informant wakes up, follow him and he'll talk to some bald dude. Listen to the conversation and you'll know who your guy is.
Ah, thanks.
Zomba13
Member
Me. All of GZ (apart from maybe the twist at the end) was spoiled through the trailers.
I'm weary, but I don't think there'll be many spoilers. And, at this point, I kind of need to know more to be sold entirely on it. A hint at the scale, locations and characters (beyond what the E3 trailer of last year gave us) along with more gameplay, is all I need.
Just one trailer like the MGS3 E3 trailers and that'd be enough for me. They were spoilery, but fairly abstract.
They're so, so good. I get the biggest smile at the "Survival of the Snakest" part.
Wishmaster92
Member
Totally worth it, surpassed my expectations. The series is taking a turn for the better.
There is no way I won't eat up any coverage. I want to see this game play put to use in other environments, along with what else might be added to the mix.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Game Informer spoiled it for me in the cover story as well, so absolutely.
FrankWza
Member
Rogue Agent
Banned
Who is the voice of Raiden in the interrogations? Kiefer?
It's from Metal Gear Rising.
Yeah, but all the other elements are way more important in the overall score if you pull off all the others.
GoodCoffeeJoey
Banned
The informant won't talk to me about the
no matter what I do.
second tape
I am or at least I want to. This shit is getting ridiculous. People kept saying the end is going to shock you . Bullshit, the end was in the fucking trailer. I wish Kojima would pull a mgs2 and expose as little as possible.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
He won't know anything about it. You have to interrogate other soldiers about it. DM if you want a hint. Godspeed, all the same.
Yeah, I know. All of the music is Jamais Vu re-purposed from Rising. It's probably the combination of the sirens blaring, and the gunfire, that makes it sound as 'action-y' as it does in Jamais Vu.
Which reminds me. The re-orchestrations used in Ground Zeroes weren't composed specifically for Ground Zeroes. They're actually part of the Metal Gear 25th Anniversary music collection re-arrangments. They are all really good.
Yup. GZ was completely ruined from a story perspective thanks to the trailers.
Already seen enough of Phantom Pain as is. Not watching any trailers/videos of it from this point on. Want to be surprised.
FrankWza
Member
Better than tolerable.
It all carries over if/when you get a ps4 later on. There will probably be some kind of import feature like transfarring.
You will only miss out on anything if you don't get the dlc slip that comes with the retail copy of GZ.