If you enjoyed 4,i think you'll love the others if you can get past the archaic controls.
I enjoyed 4 too but it's easily my least favorite game in the series
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Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes |OT| Kaz, I'm already a demo
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If you enjoyed 4,i think you'll love the others if you can get past the archaic controls.
I enjoyed 4 too but it's easily my least favorite game in the series
Glad you enjoyed it but you really do need to play the others, how could you possibly understand 4 otherwise? I mean do you even know that the difference between Big Boss and Solid Snake?
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I agree its got a great story but the game itself isn't on par with the home console versions
This would have been different if it was made as a full mainline game instead of a portable game
And why feel bad, because he hasn't played the previous titles? MGS4 is fantastic, even better if you played the previous games
Or are you one of those that don't like MGS4 because it didn't play out the way you wanted?
I can't stand those stupid ideas some fans come up with, if it was up to them MGSV would be about The Boss and the Cobra Unit which has nothing to do with Metal Gear.
Oh believe me I had no idea what was going on most of the time. I do know the difference, not that hard to know if you at least read a synopsis of the stories.
TheSpoiler
Member
Will the guards get up if their friends are nearby? Do they tell them to get up?
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I agree, although I'm one of the MGS2 fans
I enjoyed it as much as that so and didn't have my own write up to how the story should go so there wasn't any disappointment minus killing off Solid Snake
In Ground Zeroes? Of course... it wouldn't be a metal gear game any other way.
What's new and awesome (but kinda messed up) is that guards slowly die now. So a guard would actually comfort a slowly dying solider, then call the incident in over the radio to CP.
That's amazing, lol. Never noticed it.
matrixman92
Member
at 91% right now...contemplating if I want to put in the rage of trying to go for s rank on hard on all missions. I fucking loved this game...put well over 20 hours in
To be honest I've only encountered it once during a side-ops mission. When trying to kill the "Eye" and the "Finger". These guys are always surrounded by fellow soldiers so I'm hoping it wasn't a scripted thing for that mission and is an actual thing guards do when encountering a slowly dying solider.
I've seen soldiers crawl away and slowly die many times in the game but I've only seen a situation where a live guard witnesses a dying one (in the side-ops)
I'm about 90% sure it wasn't scripted.
War is hell. (Unless it's about bees coming from your mouth or goofy hand gestures)
Noisepurge
Member
yeah you can injure guards by shooting at their feet until they fall over, this is one way of doing a non-lethal takedown too i think. Atleast i think it doesnt count as a kill, gotta test this at some point
And it wouldnt be a metalgear without these small amazing details
no other game series does this. Oh and TrollJima rolls the mission menu for you if you let it stay there for a moment.
Yah I love how guards actually wake up and wake each other up in MGS.
Two recent stealth titles (dxhr and Dishonored) treated non lethal take downs the same as lethal. Literally no difference. It sucks.
I generally always enjoy enemy behavior in MGS. One thing I love in GZ is how enemies are grouped into squads, each with their own caution phases. They don't typically stand down all at once either so you may leave a calm area to find some guards still acting cautious
Two recent stealth titles (dxhr and Dishonored) treated non lethal take downs the same as lethal. Literally no difference. It sucks.
I generally always enjoy enemy behavior in MGS. One thing I love in GZ is how enemies are grouped into squads, each with their own caution phases. They don't typically stand down all at once either so you may leave a calm area to find some guards still acting cautious
Muffdraul
Member
Yes, and they make snarky comments like "Hey. Yoga class is *that* way."
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Tora, since you're here, I have a request for you guys.
I think Konami should open up a suggestion box type page, so players would voice their opinions on what they like or dislike about the game. This would be done in order to benefit the Phantom Pain.
However, I think the page should limited only to those who registered GZ on your websites in order to limit the number of spamming you guys could from people bitching about the price or whatever, and make it so only people who actually played the product can get a say.
Myself (and many others I'd imagine) would really love for our voices and concerns to be heard directly by the Dev team in Koji Pro, but I don't see how that can currently happen.
In the end, getting feedback from GZ players will only serve to further improve and refine the gameplay for TPP. I hope you take this into consideration and relay it to whoever can make it happen.
If they aren't going to include GZ with TPP I think they would have announced it already to boost sale of GZ.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Lol...I can't be the only one who get E Rank the first time playing through some of these missions right?
Lol...I can't be the only one who get E Rank the first time playing through some of these missions right?
I got C on normal and then E on hard.
And then I returned the game to RedBox...
RedAssedApe
Banned
I got C on normal and then E on hard.
And then I returned the game to RedBox...
I got E rank on normal on some of the side missions -_-
Although one of them was probably due to me trying to knock guards out using magazines. lol
matrixman92
Member
Lol...I can't be the only one who get E Rank the first time playing through some of these missions right?
i honestly didnt know it went below a C
Dark Octave
Banned
I've never been one to pay too much attention to VO but Sutherland (or however you spell it) really makes some of the other characters sound like cartoons by comparison. Not that he's any better of an actor than them but he talks in a more monotone, "normal" voice while everyone else is more colorful and overly dramatic. Kind of makes them sound a little ridiculous, especially the end dialogue where all you can do is listen to them speak without visuals (MGS staple).
CloudyTuba
Member
I miss the old codecs a lot. It's a staple of the series.
Dont care how they bring it back, move it to the idroid or something, but just bring back the little pictures and signal bars!
Maaaan, the Renegade Threat mission is a bitch to S rank! Can't get higher than a A rank...
What's the best method to tackle this? I've tried running and gunning, finishing the mission within 2 minutes by killing the bald dude first then running to the admin building, wait for the other dude to open the gate and then I shot him in the car. But obviously I raised an alert with this and that cost me a lot of points.
Other method was to extract them but this takes a lot of time so I got a A rank again. Argh! I've finally pinpointed the admin building's guy starting location though so maybe I can plan a more efficient route the next try...
Trying these missions with different approaches is really fun. I hope I can figure out my own succesful method without having to resort to a guide... but damn this one is tough!
What's the best method to tackle this? I've tried running and gunning, finishing the mission within 2 minutes by killing the bald dude first then running to the admin building, wait for the other dude to open the gate and then I shot him in the car. But obviously I raised an alert with this and that cost me a lot of points.
Other method was to extract them but this takes a lot of time so I got a A rank again. Argh! I've finally pinpointed the admin building's guy starting location though so maybe I can plan a more efficient route the next try...
Trying these missions with different approaches is really fun. I hope I can figure out my own succesful method without having to resort to a guide... but damn this one is tough!
In the intel extract? Bait it away from the bodies and then RPG it like normal.
A good pro-tip is
tranq the guards and then get out. Carry their bodies to the guard tower before going to the VIP. Then go to the VIP, grab the rocketlauncher and then grab the VIP before dropping them. Quickly RPG the tank.
No deaths that way.
AgentLampshade
Member
I really want to find all the XOF patches myself, but at the same time really want to play the Deja Vu mission. I've got 4 so far and I'm so close to looking at a guide.
FrankWza
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They have. But that doesn't mean it won't come bundled later. Anything is possible
I'd rather it not be that dominant on screen. I'm enjoying no hud. I'd rather use
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FLLFGO8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
If it's the one I'm thinking of
I found it drunk and laughing at the roll animation
Love the game, but this is the best thing to do over and over again.
I killed both of them with the sniper you get. I just had to put like 10 guys to sleep to keep the path safe of me escaping the mission area. But I had to be quick about it since once you kill the first guy on th jeep the other guy on the tower will run and you had to shoot him before he leaves the tower.
SJRB
Gold Member
Lol...I can't be the only one who get E Rank the first time playing through some of these missions right?
Not the first time, but I got an E-rank just now with the intel retrieval Side Op. I spent 133 minutes in the mission and the ranking system deducted me -9999 points for that haha.
I got played like a damn fiddle.
What happens if there's a guard on the other side of the door?
ComputerBlue
Member
There are a few things I definitely think they should fix for Phantom Pain, or perhaps I'm going something wrong.
1. The cover system needs to be tighter if it's automatic. Snake really needs to hug corners better. There have been enough times where I was behind a crate or something, facing right while an enemy would be approaching on the left, very lightly tapping left so Snake would turn around so I could CQC once they were close enough, but even the light tap sent him far enough beyond the edge of cover to alert the enemy.
2. Diving is great, but why can't you immediately hold the crawl button down so he stays down if you want to keep moving. I don't like that he goes into the crouch position automatically after the dive, he should stay down.
3. Extracting prisoners, if there's going to be a Motherbase system similar to PW they need to either bring back the Fulton system, or allow you to bring targets to safe zones and leave them there for automatic extraction, waiting for the heli takes too long.
Great game though, for the most part the new mechanics are a great improvement.
1. The cover system needs to be tighter if it's automatic. Snake really needs to hug corners better. There have been enough times where I was behind a crate or something, facing right while an enemy would be approaching on the left, very lightly tapping left so Snake would turn around so I could CQC once they were close enough, but even the light tap sent him far enough beyond the edge of cover to alert the enemy.
2. Diving is great, but why can't you immediately hold the crawl button down so he stays down if you want to keep moving. I don't like that he goes into the crouch position automatically after the dive, he should stay down.
3. Extracting prisoners, if there's going to be a Motherbase system similar to PW they need to either bring back the Fulton system, or allow you to bring targets to safe zones and leave them there for automatic extraction, waiting for the heli takes too long.
Great game though, for the most part the new mechanics are a great improvement.
I'm going to have to find this out. Really hope he sees me so I can trigger reflex mode.
Don't touch the left stick after diving and he stays down.
ComputerBlue
Member
Right, but like I said, if you want to keep moving. It's nothing major, but the extra bit of fluid control would be nice.
Rogue Agent
Banned
That's actually his MSF Sneaking Suit. I suppose he still wears the FOX emblem as a sign of respect to his former unit.
He ought to be wearing a FOXHOUND suit, yeah. Even discounting Portable Ops, FOXHOUND is already founded in the canon.
brianmcdoogle
Member
I keep wasting my time on the iPhone app playing the mother base building game, and I have no idea why I am doing this because I have no idea if this will even factor in and give me a leg up when the phantom pain comes out. Am I truly wasting my time, or will this have any impact on the next game?
Various Artists
Banned
Is there anywhere to listen to the tapes? I collected half of them but am having trouble with the other half. I would have thought they would have been uploaded to youtube but I cant find them.
Dark Octave
Banned
All this eventually has to lead up and come full circle to a PS4/XB1 remake of MG1 right?
Right?
Right?
Kojima has openly, recently, said he wants those games remade, so perhaps, it's quite likely.
'Metal Gear Solid 0'. Fitting, isn't it?
AuthenticM
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I'd simply call it "Metal Gear". Have both games be remade as one. MG1 could serve as the prologue, considering it barely had any story, while the main game would focus on a reimagining of MG2.
Kojima said he isnt done with solid also, so hes either going to make an apperance in TPP, or the remakes for MG, which NEEDS to happen
And then a fox engine remake of MGS1.
The he moves onto new ips
The remake of MG1 and MG2 would be the epic conclusion to the franchise, I think.
Solid Snake versus Big Boss and Gray Fox...what more could one ask for?
I think a good MG1 & MG2 remake would nullify the need to remaking MGS1 again. MGS1 shares a lot of similarities with MG2.
No, I think he should remake MG1 & MG2 as one game, this gen hopefully (despite being two games it'd still have a smaller, more focused scale than The Phantom Pain), the he should move onto ZOE 3 or any other game projects.
D
Deleted member 80556
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We don't really know. The original Ground Zeroes trailer said "SNAKE IS BACK IN FOX" and that was it, nothing else was said or anything.
It's probably just for Kojima to show "oh look how the contrast of FOX and XOF is!" and nothing else. I doubt he's working in the government (it was the CIA, right?) again, rather than just accepting to do for them certain things.
I hope to be wrong, because it would be so awesome.
His suit is unchanged from Peace Walker, where he also had the FOX logo on his right shoulder.