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Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes |OT| Kaz, I'm already a demo
- Thread starter BurnOutBrighter
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No reflex, I rescue two prisoners. My record is 49442, still no S.Do i Need ti hit 50k?
It is something over 50k, I think. What's your time looking like?
NoctisVsStar
Member
i want Hayter too and i understand your position 100%.. but i cant really judge kiefer on a few lines of GZ ill wait for TPP to have a definite position. i still think solid snake is gonna be back in some form and hopefully is hayter and not a new voice actor cause gaf is gonna go ballistic lol but at the end of the day i bet most of the fans at the end will appreciate keifer's contribution to the series.
No, but I watched a guy do it on Hard for the main mission and I want to try it out now. He had a good deal of patience, but it's totally doable. Just magazines too. No grenades.This game, man...
It was S ranked, too.
NoctisVsStar
Member
a psx emulator and ur 360 controller and you can play mgs1 just a thought
Dick Justice
Banned
Well, their balls have been cut off since MGS2.
Sutherland voices Solid Snake in the Deja Vu mission. Hayter ain't coming back.
it's so fucking funny, but can be real tricky, you need to be so very close to get it off their head before reflex mode runs out
i ended up doing it with a grenade entirely by accident because i forgot to switch weapons. it was pretty hilarious going from "i did it" to "oh shit, dive out the way of the explosion and fucking hide"
5:59
Try and get it under five. I think you'd be good.
I don't really know how. I snipe tower dude, run and kill the second guy by his truck, take the truck and drive it to the prisoners. Then extract them.
Oh, just forget the prisoners, man. Book it after the kills to the chopper.
tensuke
Member
AuthenticM
Member
What does the Ground Zeroes Android app do, exactly ? Will it unlock some stuff in Phantom Pain ? I just spent nearly 90 minutes in it sending soldiers to do missions and building my base. It's so addictive. Please tell me I didn't do this for nothing.
I think it's just kojima's weird writing. Much like the utterly cringe worthy line from ocelot at the start of the phantom pain footage. "Now go...let the legend come back to life" who in gods name would ever say something like that. Kiefer must be embarrassed working opposite people when those are the lines being thrown at him. Maybe so embarrassed he doesn't even show up (hence why boss is mute through that entire scene)
I doubt i'll ever warm to kiefer as snake tbh. He just doesn't fit the roll well enough.
NealMcCauley
Member
You can sync it to your console on the same wi-fi network and use it as the game's idroid. It also lets you play all the cassettes though they have to be downloaded each if you close/reopen the app. Also, depending on how well you do in GZ, bonus officers, troops, vehicles etc. are rewarded in the mother base game.
Also, the more missions you complete you can unlock some artwork.
keltickennedy
Member
Metal Gear script, Anything goes. At this point, after all the games, it just adds to the charm.
SJRB
Gold Member
Of course not. It's Kojima, he does whatever the fuck he wants, and he wants Hayter gone.
AuthenticM
Member
Yeah, I know that and have done so. But is there a point to playing the Mother Base game or am I wasting my time ?
When kiefer doesn't return for the next game (which lets be serious, he won't) i wonder who he'll move onto next?
I think it's supposed to tie in with TPP.
KittenMaster
Member
Probably another actor that fills in with the desired qualities that they got Kiefer for to begin with (facial emoting and somebody roughly at the same point in his life).
KittenMaster
Member
You ever hear of actors not coming back because they ask for too much money and the producers/publishers say "lol no"?
SJRB
Gold Member
You really need to stop with these bizarre logic-bending assumptions bro. I get that you really, REALLY want Hayter back but this is getting weird.
Kiefer is an actor, who acts for a living. If MGS6 involves Big Boss, and Kojima wants Kiefer back, he will be back. Because that's how it works.
It's not required that Kiefer is a hardcore MGS fan, it's not required that he has played MGS2 on Euro Extreme or has a FOX logo as a wallpaper on his phone. An actor is hired to act.
Come on man, it's over. Hayter's gone. Just let it go.
CambriaRising
Member
Why would they purposely make it worse?
Kojima has already stated they can't have kiefer talk too much because he costs too much. There is no way he would return. So who are they likely to use next? Consistency clearly means nothing to them (well, unless it's the original Japanese VA in which case it does) so who are likely candidates?
Well, they've already made it worse, so you tell me?
Where did he say this?
He didn't. Kojima said he wants less dialogue because he'd rather convey information through facial expressions and actions.
The quote in question is from Jordan Amaro:
"Jordan Amaro: He [Hideo Kojima] wanted to explore what it means to bring the franchise to an open space. He wants to try to bring the player closer to Snake by leaving all these options and reducing the amount of cut-scenes. He wants you to feel close to him, reduce the friction and see what players make of it. And Snake doesn't talk as much. He said, if he talks too much then we have to pay Kiefer Sutherland a lot more!"
Not quite the same thing as "Kiefer costs too much"
Never. Real Snake won't die in our hearts.
KittenMaster
Member
They started the whole "we want Snake to talk less" thing with Peace Walker, bro. It's really obvious they started to go with Snake being an incredibly introverted and reserved vet while Kaz does all of the talking and carries most of the dialogue, and this was a game with Hayter in it.
I answered this in a previous post.
"And Snake doesn't talk as much. He said, if he talks too much then we have to pay Kiefer Sutherland a lot more!"
Eurogamer stealth vs stealth article.
They're conscious of the VA costs because kiefer is obviously pricey. And it sounds like dialogue has been shaved down because of that. Seems like a lot of sacrifice and expense for the sake of a name on a box...not a very good one at that.
SJRB
Gold Member
Anyone interested in the Japanese version of Ground Zeroes [thus JPN voice acting], tune in to the Outer Heaven Network on Twitch right now!
It's not at all. And the Amaro quote was already proved to be a joke.
Either you're trolling, not very good with English or you're a goddamn moron.
Well aren't you pleasant.
KittenMaster
Member
Because I feel like my posts were glossed, I will restate a lot of what I know and think on this situation.
They started cutting back on Snake's dialogue in Peace Walker already. Maybe not as much as in GZ but it's very apparent that the supporting cast does most of the talking and Snake makes a remark here and there. This was a game with David Hayter as Snake.
For their casting choice for mo-cap, a movie director suggested Sutherland for Kojima, so it's probable that they had a good connection that let them land a deal with Sutherland. Yes, Kiefer has star power which is great for marketing, but they've stated repeatedly that they wanted an actor that can convey expressions for a character that is not particularly mouthy (meaning that even when he's not doing VA work, he's still doing mo-cap in between).
If for whatever reason Kiefer decides to jump ship and not return to the next game, they'll just find another actor that will fufill the same goals they have with Kiefer rather than throw up their hands in defeat and kiss Hayter's feet begging for mercy. Kojima knows a director that suggested Sutherland, so it's entirely possible that director had other considerations as well.
They started cutting back on Snake's dialogue in Peace Walker already. Maybe not as much as in GZ but it's very apparent that the supporting cast does most of the talking and Snake makes a remark here and there. This was a game with David Hayter as Snake.
For their casting choice for mo-cap, a movie director suggested Sutherland for Kojima, so it's probable that they had a good connection that let them land a deal with Sutherland. Yes, Kiefer has star power which is great for marketing, but they've stated repeatedly that they wanted an actor that can convey expressions for a character that is not particularly mouthy (meaning that even when he's not doing VA work, he's still doing mo-cap in between).
If for whatever reason Kiefer decides to jump ship and not return to the next game, they'll just find another actor that will fufill the same goals they have with Kiefer rather than throw up their hands in defeat and kiss Hayter's feet begging for mercy. Kojima knows a director that suggested Sutherland, so it's entirely possible that director had other considerations as well.
NealMcCauley
Member
Personal enjoyment?
if the pay is right sutherland will come back. a job is a job.
people are also taking that amaro joke too fucking far. if people actually read the rest of the eurogamer article instead of just parroting that one quote they'd know snake having less to say was a conscious decision from both a narrative and gameplay perspective.
but ultimately i think we're leaving big boss as a protagonist after the phantom pain. it's either straight up mg/mg2 remakes or a post-mgs4 kojima game.
people are also taking that amaro joke too fucking far. if people actually read the rest of the eurogamer article instead of just parroting that one quote they'd know snake having less to say was a conscious decision from both a narrative and gameplay perspective.
but ultimately i think we're leaving big boss as a protagonist after the phantom pain. it's either straight up mg/mg2 remakes or a post-mgs4 kojima game.
Turns out there's a new virus. FoxBardo.
Old Snake is young again.
Because 0s and 1s and 0s and 1s.
CambriaRising
Member
That was an obvious joke dude. Stop quoting people out of context.
Liferebooted
Banned
Just played through the main mission. I really enjoyed it but there was nothing open about it, nothing at all. Oh and I keep thinking I'm playing a 24 game.