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You can beat them all with the gatling gun completely un-upgraded. D-Walker is literally a skull deterrent.

This word has been overused to a laughable degree across Peace Walker and now Phantom Pain.

this shit will seriously go down as one of my most hated changes of pace in a game i've ever played. what a god damn nose dive, even if it ends up being just this mission

16 had alternatives. I figured those were intentional ie the game giving you the chance to play like you wanted

this crap is just inexcusable. it's not hard; it's a dread

There's also apparently an AA gun nearby that you can use. I found the mission frustrating as well but really it was not that much different to me than some past MGS bosses (Rex in MGS1 in particular.....with the terrible check pointing) where the game turns into a full on action game. It stands out here more because of the way it had been flexible up until then.

 

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This word has been overused to a laughable degree across Peace Walker and now Phantom Pain.

Metal Gear Solid: Deterrent Deterrence

 

[kahboomkin]

Spoiler

Look up Mission 51

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Is this the mission that was cut from the game or something?

 

[dan2026]

Well it clearly isnt side ops that unlocks mission 46.

Done about 10 and nothing.

 

[TheLight]

Honestly playing every mission the same way isn't gonna help. Didn't try dealing with the skulls, restarted and dropped in with a tank and got ready for em. You can CQC em too

 

[Jarmel]

Well it clearly isnt side ops that unlocks mission 46.

Done about 10 and nothing.

Just gotta do more.

 

[Salsa]

they deactivated my d walker with some weird mist shit

jesus christ what the fuck am I suddenly playing

 

[Gvitor]

Post-mission 32:

Ok, so Quiet

Spoiler

just jumped into the toxic gas and is now in sick bay. When do I get her back?

 

[Zombie James]

Post-mission 32:

Ok, so Quiet

Spoiler

just jumped into the toxic gas and is now in sick bay. When do I get her back?

Spoiler

Immediately. Just hop into a mission and she'll be there.

 

[A-V-B]

they deactivated my d walker with some weird mist shit

jesus christ what the fuck am I suddenly playing

Yeah, it's mentioned over the radio. Never got me though. I was moving too damn much.

 

[Real Hero]

they deactivated my d walker with some weird mist shit

jesus christ what the fuck am I suddenly playing

That mission isn't that hard, have quiet fight the

Spoiler

zombies

and you rocket launcher the

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skulls

 

[Jarmel]

they deactivated my d walker with some weird mist shit

jesus christ what the fuck am I suddenly playing

This is just giving you a taste of Metal Gear Rising 2. Be grateful.

 

[Mupod]

Big boss will never chokehold you in his iron grip
You won't have a splashy water fight with Big Boss in the rain
You will never fight Big Boss naked in the shower

why even live?

this shit will seriously go down as one of my most hated changes of pace in a game i've ever played. what a god damn nose dive, even if it ends up being just this mission

16 had alternatives. I figured those were intentional ie the game giving you the chance to play like you wanted

this crap is just inexcusable. it's not hard; it's a dread. it's the ultimate "I give up on this crap" moments that just get you pissed at what went wrong during development

1. Make an LMG
2. Facepalm at what an idiot you were for not trying that sooner, just like I did

 

[LurkerPrime]

That mission isn't that hard, have quiet fight the

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zombies

and you rocket launcher the

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skulls

Mission 29 is the one with the Quiet glitch. It's not worth the risk.

 

[Clear]

29

absolute garbage

not only that but im forced to research strong rocket launchers for the first time

and guess what? gotta wait 18 minutes for no reason

Every metal gear game includes fights which require serious fire-power to win. So really, you only have yourself to blame, especially as the game suggests you develop and use missiles as early as mission 8.

 

[Salsa]

That mission isn't that hard, have quiet fight the

Spoiler

zombies

and you rocket launcher the

Spoiler

skulls

I don't have shit quiet


anyway, the D walker did it

I remember frustrating stuff in previous MGS' like Rex, sure, but this game fucking flaunts it's open worldness and it's versatility and suddenly it just punishes you in the DICK if you didnt at any time go rambo on shit. I had to wait minutes for everything to upgrade. I had to wear shit bulky armor. I had to use a partner I dislike and never used.

gar-bage

Every metal gear game includes fights which require serious fire-power to win. So really, you only have yourself to blame, especially as the game suggests you develop and use missiles as early as mission 8.

"every game has this shit part which is always bad so it's YOUR FAULT based kojimangg"


mmmkay

this is a very different game. lets make it like previous games just in the worst aspect

 

[Real Hero]

Mission 29 is the one with the Quiet glitch. It's not worth the risk.

Oh shit yeah, I read about that glitch just after doing it too, I must have gottne lucky

 

[NullPointer]

I didnt upgrade the D walker at all cause that's not how I was playing this game and it is not how this game is fun

garbage design

GARBAGE

im mad. not reaction mad but mad at a game taking such a big dump on itself. "hey this is great and fun, lets just ruin it"

Trying to avoid any and all spoilers which is why I don't read or post much in these MGS threads, but am I getting the right impression that an upgraded D-Walker is necessary and/or forced?

I was kinda hoping I could ignore it. I'm a perfect stealth crawling kinda snake - like to spend most of the time reconning and planning, and then quickly executing upon those plans. A walker mech thing is definitely out of my comfort zone.

 

[Hispanic! At the Disco]

this shit will seriously go down as one of my most hated changes of pace in a game i've ever played. what a god damn nose dive, even if it ends up being just this mission

16 had alternatives. I figured those were intentional ie the game giving you the chance to play like you wanted

this crap is just inexcusable. it's not hard; it's a dread. it's the ultimate "I give up on this crap" moments that just get you pissed at what went wrong during development

Mission 28??

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I just got in my D-Walker and ran into the building, popping in and out to fight the skulls, dodging the rock blasts. Didn't think it was a hard mission. also dodge the mist lol

 

[Jarmel]

Trying to avoid any and all spoilers which is why I don't read or post much in these MGS threads, but am I getting the right impression that an upgraded D-Walker is necessary and/or forced?

I was kinda hoping I could ignore it. I'm a perfect stealth crawling kinda snake - like to spend most of the time reconning and planning, and then quickly executing upon those plans. A walker mech thing is definitely out of my comfort zone.

Upgrade your combat stuff. You'll need it.

 

[A-V-B]

Trying to avoid any and all spoilers which is why I don't read or post much in these MGS threads, but am I getting the right impression that an upgraded D-Walker is necessary and/or forced?

Absolutely not. At least not as far as I've played.

 

[Soulflarz]

So do the previous Metal Gear games. Still didn't stop MGS4 getting perfect scores, either. Hype culture tends to do that to people.

Nah, this one is going to divide miles apart from how mgs4 did.

 

[LurkerPrime]

D-Walker is just another in a long list of options. SalsaShark is overstating the issue. It's a curveball that sucks, but there's more than one way to deal with it.

I don't have shit quiet


anyway, the D walker did it

I remember frustrating stuff in previous MGS' like Rex, sure, but this game fucking flaunts it's open worldness and it's versatility and suddenly it just punishes you in the DICK if you didnt at any time go rambo on shit. I had to wait minutes for everything to upgrade. I had to wear shit bulky armor. I had to use a partner I dislike and never used.

gar-bage

I Fox-ranked Mission 29. No detections.

 

[Salsa]

Mission 28??

Spoiler

I just got in my D-Walker and ran into the building, popping in and out to fight the skulls, dodging the rock blasts. Didn't think it was a hard mission. also dodge the mist lol

mission 28 MIGHT BE THE BEST IN THE GAME

mission 29 is by far the worst so far

do you rike it

ffs

 

[Window]

Do you ever gain the ability to replay old missions at their original difficulty anytime you want? If so, do any extractions you conduct carry over going forwards?

 

[Itchy//Tasty]

Traitors' Caravan (Extreme) S-rank done in three minutes with swagger. If you can think of any other ways to increase the epic, unecessary showboating, let me know.

http://youtu.be/p9DdRdQdkx8

 

[Hypron]

There are too many untagged spoilers in the past two pages IMO.

 

[Senoculum]

I got this on Friday to enjoy over the long weekend, and I ended up putting in 20 hours in that time, glad my wife was cool with me hogging the TV like that. I'm on mission 15 now and am having so much fun. The gameplay and combat options are just so incredible and varied. This game has me like no other so far this year. Kojima went out amazingly.

I'm on mission 17; and on a similar boat! My girlfriend let me play for 18 hours on Monday alone - she's such a good sport.

And yeah, man; a friend of mine who's much further ahead than me isn't enthused about certain things, but I honestly think this is the first game in ages to be top of mind for me. I feel like a teen again, investing deeply into the mechanics and the gameplay because they're so, so good!

 

[LurkerPrime]

Do you ever gain the ability to replay old missions at their original difficulty anytime you want? If so, do any extractions you conduct carry over going forwards?

You can replay every mission you've completed at any time. It's only side-ops that can be restricted.

Far as I'm aware, whatever you take out a second time is as real as the first. I'm not sure how that works for some recruits, though.

 

[Graphics Horse]

I thought 29 was better than 28. well, at least the first part of 28, but I was sitting in a tank. If you're not researching explosive weapons are you planning on tranqing the sahelanthropus to death?
I used a mix of killer bee, k pistol and a grenade launcher to do 29.

 

[A-V-B]

Do you ever gain the ability to replay old missions at their original difficulty anytime you want?

Yup.

And any new guys will show up at MB.

 

[Insertia]

On mission 6 where else can the Honey Bee be found? It's not in the place where the strategy guide says it is. Should I restart the mission?

 

[A-V-B]

I thought 29 was better than 28. well, at least the first part of 28, but I was sitting in a tank. If you're not researching explosive weapons are you planning on tranqing the sahelanthropus to death?

Mission 3

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1

is

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literally chocked to the brim with tanks and armed trucks.

 

[Salsa]

oh also guess what: I got an S rank. of course.

for fuck's sake game

 

[MrS]

Oh my god the sense of speed when you unlock

Spoiler

the Raiden costume

is fucking brilliant

 

[Window]

You can replay every mission you've completed at any time. It's only side-ops that can be restricted.

Far as I'm aware, whatever you take out a second time is as real as the first. I'm not sure how that works for some recruits, though.

Yup.

And any new guys will show up at MB.

Right. Thank you.

 

[A-V-B]

oh also guess what: I got an S rank. of course.

for fuck's sake game

You always get S-Ranks for D-Walkering those guys

 

[Graphics Horse]

On mission 6 where else can the Honey Bee be found? It's not in the place where the strategy guide says it is. Should I restart the mission?

I think interrogating people will tell you, but it's kind of hard to find even with the marker.

 

[Hispanic! At the Disco]

Just beat Mission 43 i think it was...

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I actually thought this was a great and impactful mission. Too bad the entire chapter 2 feels like poorly thrown together side dlc missions. There is no flow at all to this part of the game. The whole story and the characters seem disjointed, as if these missions are all their own separate side events not related to the main story.

Its constant "oh hey boss! come back to base we totally forgot to show you this cutscene / mission! when you're done you can do whatever and we'll let you know if we remember any other part of the game.

 

[brau]

On mission 6 where else can the Honey Bee be found? It's not in the place where the strategy guide says it is. Should I restart the mission?

It should

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be behind the crate. Did you use your NVG to look at the path? NVG also highlight items. Look on the right side of hte crate too.

There is also an intel file in the caves that tells you were exactly the honey bee is.

 

[Gvitor]

Spoiler

Immediately. Just hop into a mission and she'll be there.

Spoiler

You mean as a buddy option? Because it's blocked out here. Iwent back to MB and the cutscene was Code Talker related, not Quiet. I also went in a side ops and she didn't pop up. The only main missions I have right now are the subsistence and extreme rehashes that I have no desire of doing.

I don't have shit quiet
I remember frustrating stuff in previous MGS' like Rex, sure, but this game fucking flaunts it's open worldness and it's versatility and suddenly it just punishes you in the DICK if you didnt at any time go rambo on shit. I had to wait minutes for everything to upgrade. I had to wear shit bulky armor. I had to use a partner I dislike and never used.

gar-bage

I wholeheartedly agree. That mission was complete bullshit and it gives you no options whatsoever

Spoiler

but to kill them. I ended up doing it with rocket launcher + shotgun, supply drops galore and many retries. It didn't feel like Metal Gear.

 

[Outtrigger888]

On mission 6 where else can the Honey Bee be found? It's not in the place where the strategy guide says it is. Should I restart the mission?

Spoiler

theres a wall you have to crawl under in the back of the base. It's kind of a maze but keep looking

 

[oktarb]

am I getting the right impression that an upgraded D-Walker is necessary and/or forced?

I beat Chapter 1 without ever using the D-Walker. Not even once.

 

[Khronico]

Trying to avoid any and all spoilers which is why I don't read or post much in these MGS threads, but am I getting the right impression that an upgraded D-Walker is necessary and/or forced?

I was kinda hoping I could ignore it. I'm a perfect stealth crawling kinda snake - like to spend most of the time reconning and planning, and then quickly executing upon those plans. A walker mech thing is definitely out of my comfort zone.

Not really.

I beat 29 easily with just the first rocket launcher.

 

[criesofthepast]

I have a few side ops that are not greying out after completion and still have a flashing dot as if they are new missions. Side Op 28 and the Target Practice Side Op 152 and 153.

Any ideas?

 

[NullPointer]

I Fox-ranked Mission 29. No detections.

So that mission is particularly bad, but you can stealth through it without going guns blazing? That's fine by me provided the stealth option actually works.

I beat Chapter 1 without ever using the D-Walker. Not even once.

Not even far enough into the game to know it has chapters.

 

[Spazznid]

Holy shit.


Not a spoiler.

Sneaking around in mission 30, and hear something shuffling in the grass so I stop. As I move my camera, I notice that that sound is the sound of my camera going through the grass.


WTF Kojima.

 

[daveo42]

So, gone all day at work and no intruders. Whew. I wonder if not doing the mock infiltration mission keep you from being intruded upon. My guess is no and will most likely get attacked at some point, unless attacking your own base gives you PF Rank. Oddly enough as well, my espionage rank went up.

 

[A-V-B]

Holy shit.


Not a spoiler.

Sneaking around in mission 30, and hear something shuffling in the grass so I stop. As I move my camera, I notice that that sound is the sound of my camera going through the grass.


WTF Kojima.

Another fun detail: When you run by a tree, and the tree is really close to the camera, it actually whooshes by

 

[Timeaisis]

oh also guess what: I got an S rank. of course.

for fuck's sake game

I always get an S rank on the missions I think I'm doing the worst at. Like

Spoiler

16.