Jinxed
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Also saw people beat it in 50-60 hours. I'm thinking about it
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Metaphor: ReFantazio |OT| Don’t Worry, It’s All in Your Head!
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Shake Your Rump
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Pretend you have no access to the internet. All you have is the demo and the game description. Would you buy it?
Joel Was Right
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Downloaded the demo. This game looks like it was made 20 years ago. The shade cell design looks incredibly dated. Exploring the city is just an eye-sore.
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Shake Your Rump
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J3nga
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it also has rather annoying motion blur when you're dashing, no way to disable it in the options.
Jinxed
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Yeah because I wouldn't know it can be a 100 hours game
It's seriously the only thing holding me back.
I'm shopping for Halloween costumes this afternoon with the kids, I'll stop at GameStop and see if they have it in stock and do a trade-in maybe
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Takes guts to admit that, but you still deserve this gif reaction for even thinking that in the first place when you didn't even gave the demo a fair shot.
Now go and enjoy this masterpiece!
Well I'm 99 Percent correct most of the time
Here's a trophy
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
The music hasn't really grabbed me and I'm a massive fan of JRPG soundtracks. But I'm still in the prolouge of the game, that might change over time
Hrk69
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It didn't grab me either yet. Not as much as the Persona/SMT music did. It's just not that memorable (yet?).
The music is fine but nothing amazing imo
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Danjin44
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Diseased Yak
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Well, geez Fabienne, I bet we could come up with something that you could do for the whole "effort"...
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Same here. I started the demo today and so far, it's not too bad? Interesting story, decent combat. Gonna finish playing the demo and decide if I want to keep going, but so far the answer is "sure".
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Yeah Persona Games OST are memorable. So far nothing has gotten stuck in my head in regards to music. But I think since it's not set in the real world and is set in actual fantasy world they couldn't do the usual when it comes to making the OST. I'm hoping for some bangers to come though when it comes to music the further I play into the game
Graphically The City and when you enter into battle with enemies looks great. The characters look fine and the enemies themselves look fantastic. Everything else doesn't look as great. But going to the menu, saving etc is super fast so that's a added plus. Not a Graphic Whore but it is noticeable while playing on Steamdeck. Wondering how the game would look on a regular Gaming PC for example. But I hope this wins Game of the Year at The Game Awards since it would be amusing to me to see a game that's not that great in graphics win that award.
My issue with the demo was that on Steamdeck it ran horribly and with the way the game looks it should be running fantastic on there.
I had to research to see if they fixed the Steamdeck version of the game and I read that the game runs better now. I used the reccomanded Graphics Settings for the Steamdeck version I read on RPGSITE and the game runs buttery smooth
So yeah the game made a bad impression on me at first when I played the demo
I said before I'm tired of Persona style games, what I mean by that is the taking place in real life and I felt that the cast of Persona 5 was cookie cutter. I wasn't even that big of a fan of the battle system. Don't get me wrong, it's a good battle system but I've been playing Persona since Persona 3 FES came out on PS2 in the 2000s.
So far, I really like the cast (This is a surprise) and story. I'm happy with the setting and that it's not set in real life. It's actually something different coming from the guy who made Persona 5. It's just refreshing. The lore and world is actually interesting. Looks like all that development time they did for this game was for them to really develop their world building. The story is actually interesting to me and I pay full attention whenever there's a story sequence.
And than there's the battle system. I actually feel that it's pretty fresh. Yes it's again another variant of the Persona Battle System but there's enough differences where I don't feel like it's a copy and paste
So far, it's a fantastic game. I'm only under two hours so my opinion might change over time either negatively or positively
I can tell that the long development time really helped make the game shine. They be cooking during that time
I hope this book comes over
"How to Make an RPG" Book on the Development of Metaphor: ReFantazio to release December 19, 2024 in Japan - Persona Central
Sayakawa will be releasing a book on the development of Metaphor: ReFantazio, through a series of interviews conducted with Katsura Hashino
personacentral.com
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You can switch to Mage, kill enemy on the field, 1MP per kill.
PectacularOz
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Ive tried multiple times to play P5 and just couldnt. I mean.. its a japanese highschool dating game with a JRPG side story.
But I just bought Metaphor after the demo. They got me.
But I just bought Metaphor after the demo. They got me.
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ShadyAcshuns
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I bet that's how it ends, with you waking up from a fever dream. No spoilers, just guessing. If so, that's weak.
tomato shrub
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wow, I should have bet on this instead of only joking about it.
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Hrk69
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It's marvelous
I love it when games do stuff like this. Plus it feels like a proper roadtrip
Awful, right? Thankfully PC to the rescue as there’s a mod already out to remove this idiotic “feature.” Also massively increased my frame rate on the ROG Ally, too.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Well I'm 99 Percent correct most of the time
Here's a trophy
I’m enjoying the game but there are some really curious decisions. The MP lack is annoying. Yes, you can use the mage class but it’s still annoying and a waste of time to grind this. Just give us MP back at the safe locations. Also there’s a lot of battle trial and error that mostly seems pointless. You can click the left stick to INSTANTLY restart battles after you guess “wrong” on what an enemy is weak against, so why not just show the enemy weaknesses off the bat? It’s more - again - time sink that just seems unnecessary. It’s artificial gating that just TIME (not skill) solves.
Some may disagree with me, but eh - these are my feelings.
Some may disagree with me, but eh - these are my feelings.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Have to give it to Atlus for the amazing art direction. Just look at this scenery... jaw-droppingly beautiful.
Also, I love the narration while traveling on the map to various points of interest.
Also, I love the narration while traveling on the map to various points of interest.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Have to give it to Atlus for the amazing art direction. Just look at this scenery... jaw-droppingly beautiful.
Also, I love the narration while traveling on the map to various points of interest.
That's one of my favourite parts of the game too
Danjin44
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That what dungeon crawling is all about, resource management, To me that whats fun about these games.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
No doubt, SMT music is amazing. Nocturne and specially Digital Devil Saga had great soundtracks by Meguro (same composer as Metaphor) but imo the composer for both SMT IV and V made a great job in both titles, with IV's being one of my favorite OSTs in gaming.
Metaphor music is nice and even great at times, but imo it doesn't stand out as much as other works in the SMT series that are more about rock and metal rather than orchestral stuff. Might be personal preference but I sure prefer the former.
Mind you I still like Metaphor's music, just posting those so maybe more people go and play those games.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Also loving the gang's funny moments. Quite a few of them after departing the capital on the gauntlet runner.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Hey the ost is already on Spotify. Good for Atlus for putting it there so soon.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Also, dang... Didn't expect Hulkenberg in formal attire to look so hot...
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Moral of the game is that you should marry a woman that looks hot even in full plate armor.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Do NOT sleep on the merchant class btw. This description is absolutely false:
First, there's not a "chance" of winning. You -always- 100% of the time, get more gold.
Second of all, "small sum" is... inaccurate, to say the least. From a wolf you'd normally get 3 gold from, you'd get around 350 gold. That's like 10,000% more gold. Either a glitch or just EXTREMELY poor worded. I am farming low level trash at lvl 20 and I earned 500k gold in less than 45 minutes of farming:
First, there's not a "chance" of winning. You -always- 100% of the time, get more gold.
Second of all, "small sum" is... inaccurate, to say the least. From a wolf you'd normally get 3 gold from, you'd get around 350 gold. That's like 10,000% more gold. Either a glitch or just EXTREMELY poor worded. I am farming low level trash at lvl 20 and I earned 500k gold in less than 45 minutes of farming:
DonkeyPunchJr
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Damn! Early game (even before Cathedral) I got Hulkenberg to Merchant lvl 8, then switched her back to Knight and equipped the increased drop rate passive. It seems really useful so far.Do NOT sleep on the merchant class btw. This description is absolutely false:
First, there's not a "chance" of winning. You -always- 100% of the time, get more gold.
Second of all, "small sum" is... inaccurate, to say the least. From a wolf you'd normally get 3 gold from, you'd get around 350 gold. That's like 10,000% more gold. Either a glitch or just EXTREMELY poor worded. I am farming low level trash at lvl 20 and I earned 500k gold in less than 45 minutes of farming:
Merchant seemed pretty mid in battle though. The attack that cost 500 gold didn’t do much damage at all. How are you using the merchant in battle?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Oh this is a passive that ONLY gains its gold increase in the overworld - so only use it when running around and fucking blue (easy) mobs up
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Makes sense. Are you actually finding merchant archetype useful though? Or is it more of a “get the good passives and equip them on another, better archetype” kind of thing?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Honestly as of right now, my merchant is critting 30-40% of all hits (adding up press turn icon advantage) and dealing around 700 dmg with those crits AND costing no mana to boot. This is whilst my other team mates are struggling with finding the right weaknesses and when they do find the weakness, they're dealing 300-400 dmg max. I'm sure the merchant is dealing almighty damage so it's non-elemental, so it's a power house if you can consistently get those crits out (which is usually does thanks to the 500 gold cost-skills passive effect).
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Interesting! I think it sucks for me right now because I don’t have access to anything but the default weapon. Will definitely give it another shot when I have better options. Love the idea of being able to make shitloads of money and using that instead of MP
Mister Wolf
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Luckily there is a mod on PC to remove it.
Hrk69
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Fully agree. The section after the asshole is pretty good too
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Booted this up, it seems nice. For a modern JRPG. I mean, I wanted to play stuff like Persona 5 before and started them as well but they were so slow to start and so cliche despite some cool art. SMTV too (but ok, like DQ the point of SMT is to be ultra traditional, still, linear dungeons to me aren't interesting to go through even if the area theme switches around). This one is presented nicely even in the start with a solid premise and aesthetics and everything. Despite the also archetypical so far characters and protagonist it's not grating. Though it really needs some TAA cos it's a shimmering mess in busier areas like the first city. Well, it could end up meh, I'm in the very beginning, just the vibe it gives me is cool like games like FF used to be in the 90s. The story seems FFT-esque. Also, can't wait for this:
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Shake Your Rump
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I wonder if this is a small screen/monitor thing. Sitting six feet from a TV and I don’t even notice it, but I could see how it would bother someone 2 feet from a 27” monitor.
I haven’t had a problem. The only time I truly ran out of MP with no recovery items was at the very end of the cathedral. I’ve never grinded anything ever. I did leave to recover two times, but that’s just how the game works. It’s no different from Persona. You go as deep as you can, then you leave.
If you are burning MP so quickly, then maybe you are the wrong class? Standard weapon attacks can hit weakness and magic attacks consume trivial MP.
As for the restart battle thing, I’ve only done it once and that was due to a massive mistake. Even when fighting the giant human, I lost two party members with the third at a sliver of health and I still didn’t restart (I won in the end).
I mean, if you want to cheat, go ahead. It’s your game. To me, this sounds like someone saying “this mario game makes me hit the golden invincibility leaf box, why not just start me off invincible?” Like… just don’t cheat?
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Shake Your Rump
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And with all the recent replies spoiling things for me, I am dipping out of this topic until I finish the game. I am currently hunting Minotaur. Have fun, everyone.
PS: I personally confirmed that imported demo save trophies will retroactively trigger once you finish the necromancer quest.
PS: I personally confirmed that imported demo save trophies will retroactively trigger once you finish the necromancer quest.
saintjules
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