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Metroid Other M |OT| You're Not Supposed to Remember Him
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etiolate said:
That's bullshit though. If you stop and you recognize there is an issue and you feel that those issues are not bad enough to ruining the experince then it doesn't ruin the experince.
Glossing over the issues would be if people where trying to act like they didn't exist. No one so far as I have seen has done this with anything outside of something purely subjective like Enjoying/Hating the story, and even most of the people who like it say it isn't even close to perfect and it has several issues that need fixed if there is a sequel in this style.
No matter what the developer does, there's absolutely no way to please everybody and they'll still have tons of bitching from people. You can look at everything two ways,
You can either have linear design or nonlinear. People get lost in nonlinear design, but linear design can make the game shorter and can diminish exploration. You can either have a very Japanese, anime style story or a western sci-fi story (or of course some sort of hybrid). You can either keep the same exact mechanics or adapt them to different controls or concepts.
For me, it was better to just take the game for what it is, knowing it was going to go in its own direction. With all those potential routes, the game did a fantastic job of telling an exciting, new Metroid story. And perhaps it just leaves even more possibilities for the future if this game does well.
Samus can either lose her stuff again or something else can keep her from using it. You can either fight all of the same bosses and enemies again or (plot twist) something stops you (in this case Mother Brain wasn't who/what you thought and someone else took care of sector zero and those Metroids).
For me, it was better to just take the game for what it is, knowing it was going to go in its own direction. With all those potential routes, the game did a fantastic job of telling an exciting, new Metroid story. And perhaps it just leaves even more possibilities for the future if this game does well.
GrotesqueBeauty
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It's powered solely by paternal mojo, obviously.Giolon said:
No not at all. No one is denying the problems. Everyone has established that the game has its faults. What's there to discuss really? The story was bad. "Yes." Now what? Just because no one's complaining about it doesn't mean we haven't discussed it.etiolate said:
Maybe the problem is not everyone is as outraged about the game as you and would rather focus on the things they like rather than dwell on things they dislike.
etiolate said:
But I have said several times there are issues with the story, but I like it dispite those.
I also was more then willing to say they should've offered a Nunchuck option even though I never had issues with the controls.
Lastly I said that I would of probably prefered finding the items instead of having them locked away but be in my possestion.
I just happen to like the game despite these issues because as I said I never once lost control of Samus, and I found the story of Father and Daughter while rough to be enjoyable.
You are the one that was trying to say that the game was sexist despite the fact that this sort of story is told with both sexes in the lead role several times over in Japanese anime and that didn't deter you from making claims of Sexism.
My bad didn't know what glossing meant 
Flaws have been discussed to death here. There are faults. This game isn't perfect, far from it. But the good far outweight the bad for me.
But then people diss on the camara and I think I'm starting to go mental.
Man I really don't understand the hostility here.
Flaws have been discussed to death here. There are faults. This game isn't perfect, far from it. But the good far outweight the bad for me.
But then people diss on the camara and I think I'm starting to go mental.
What if it reached her right in the spine causing like a temporal paralisis.big_z said:
Man I really don't understand the hostility here.
Boney said:My bad didn't know what glossing meant
Flaws have been discussed to death here. There are faults. This game isn't perfect, far from it. But the good far outweight the bad for me.
But then people diss on the camara and I think I'm starting to go mental.
Yeah the camera was absolutely perfect in this game. When a 3D game can make me completely forget about the camera then it's doing something right.
Maybe because this is a very serious claim.etiolate said:
You don't think it is wrong if I where to attack a game for racism or sexism when it wasn't? I found the claim to be bullshit and you and others where more then willing to try and turn it on me as putting my fingers in my ears and it said something about me, so yeah I am calling you for your nonsenical bullshit.
TruePrime said:
It is a serious claim, perhaps you should consider it seriously.
There are reasons people got that vibe. Nobody said its 100% sexist. People observed that it comes off that way and I said it was the product of bad writing and poor character understanding. Even Abbie, the one who mentioned it, said it wouldn't come off that way if this was set before Metroid 1. It's that her gender is emphasized and she becomes emotionally weak that sends off alarms.
People'e response to this, a mixture of histrionics and misogynistic insults, have done nothing to alleviate the issue.
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The camera, as of the first mention of Bergman, has been the star of this whole game as far as I'm concerned. They did some seriously cool stuff with perspective.
Love the RE4esque sections. Good moody stuff.
Love the RE4esque sections. Good moody stuff.
abstract alien
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*chuckles*GrotesqueBeauty said:
ShockingAlberto
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I think if you wanted to, you could get racist undertones form Echoes.
But we don't because that's dumb.
But we don't because that's dumb.
You know it's like that docpan moment in the restaurant. He goes on a date and a some person watches a TV and stares in the same direction as him. Docpan gets pissed because he interpreted that as the other person staring at him and even if that's not what the person was doing it's wrong that he did it in the first.
Being smart everyone laughed at him because that's just stupid. That's basically how I feel about the whole sexism issue.
Being smart everyone laughed at him because that's just stupid. That's basically how I feel about the whole sexism issue.
GrotesqueBeauty
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So...
Apologies if it's been posted.
Apologies if it's been posted.
You guys are like totally self-unaware. You're stringing yourselves up left and right, concentrating on me. There's a whole internet out there with issues with the game. People are not filling this thread with it because they see your posts and think "oh great, not worth it with NFans" and move on. These same people may wonder why I bother.
etiolate said:
There are also several people across the internet that have enjoyed the game. Don't try to act like it is a few crazy N-fans on Neogaf that enjoyed it and that is it.
Beyond that, why would I lose sleep over what the internet at large thinks of a game I neither worked on or have any connections with? I just decided to share and read the thoughts of those on this site, I don't go anywhere else.
Besides my favorite game of the year is Final Fantasy XIII and I am pratically alone in the fact that I think it and XII before it are both among the best games in the franchise. So if I can not worry about people hatred of XII and XIII can't say people hating on Other M would bother me to much.
Then cite multiple sources that claim they've lost a mini-boss due to the camera. I have no doubt you won't get many because it's a minor issue that shouldn't happen to adequate players.etiolate said:
And seriously you need to get over the fact that we disagree with how you feel about the game. Many people have addressed their complaints about the game and that's just fine. It's just your incessant need to force your opinion onto others that bother people.
People are singling you out for a reason.
GrotesqueBeauty
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Not people, PounchEnvy.PounchEnvy said:
Not getting in the middle of this little love fest you two have going, but you totally set yourself up for that one.
MadOdorMachine
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How's the reception been for this in Japan, anyone know? One thing I will say about this game - it's controversial. To the people wanting them to remake it, I think it's a novel idea, but by the time they finished fixing all the problems, we would have a new game. I suppose that's fine, I wouldn't mind a directors/extended cut, but I really want a game based on the third person sections. Everything else should be scrapped imo. Hopefully Sakamoto has learned some valuable lessons here. I'd really like to see a Team Ninja team up again, but I must be crazy cause I'd like to see Nintendo work with Sega/Namco on a F-Zero/Star Fox game again as well. I also wouldn't mind seeing what a Donkey Kong done by Platinum Games Kamiya would look like either.
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the lava level seems pretty cool.
I was getting sick of the bio area, never did like the aesthetic.
That said, lots of cool ideas in there. Much better design than I was prepared to give them credit for. :lol
I was getting sick of the bio area, never did like the aesthetic.
That said, lots of cool ideas in there. Much better design than I was prepared to give them credit for. :lol
MadOdorMachine said:
He clearly isn't going to scrap the story, he has been building it from the early 2000's, from the Manga -> Fusion -> Other M, granted we may see something along the lines of Zero Mission again but the story based Metroid's are not going to go away any time soon from the looks of it.