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[braves01]

And to think I almost bought FFXIII...

 

[Koodo]

The last time I posted in this thread the atmosphere was of harmony and joy. Can't we all just hold hands and love each other?

P.S. why is everyone pretending G4tv has a worthwhile opinion on a topic that is clearly beyond their scope? The staff at that insipid place probably can't spell sociology without having their computer auto-correct it.

 

[AniHawk]

There's a black guy named Sazh who keeps a chicken in his afro and literally utters lines like "I'm gettin' too old for this," "Dayumn," and "Hell nah." He fights by shooting guns gangsta style.

Then there's the 7-foot tall 28-year-old stoner resistance leader who punches robots to death, fighting for his 13-year-old fiance.

This sounds terrifically awful.

 

[Majmun]

And to think I almost bought FFXIII...

You dodged a bullet. I still have a hole in my heart.

 

[Regulus Tera]

The last time I posted in this thread the atmosphere was of harmony and joy. Can't we all just hold hands and love each other?

Spoilers leaked and the result was terrifying.

This sounds terrifically awful.

Sazh is the high point of the game.

 

[∀ Narayan]

There's a black guy named Sazh who keeps a chicken in his afro and literally utters lines like "I'm gettin' too old for this," "Dayumn," and "Hell nah." He fights by shooting guns gangsta style.

Then there's the 7-foot tall 28-year-old stoner resistance leader who punches robots to death, fighting for his 13-year-old fiance.

Square-Enix

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

There's a black guy named Sazh who keeps a chicken in his afro and literally utters lines like "I'm gettin' too old for this," "Dayumn," and "Hell nah." He fights by shooting guns gangsta style.

Then there's the 7-foot tall 28-year-old stoner resistance leader who punches robots to death, fighting for his 13-year-old fiance.

did that really happen? All i remember are giant turtles.

...so....sooo many turtles i killed.

 

[Teknoman]

No, I think the discussion is centered on whether it's a good Metroid game. And judging by the reviews it's about in line with Fusion (something anyone could easily predict even back in 2009).

Which is why im wondering how things went in a crazy spiral for the last few posts.

 

[AniHawk]

Square-Enix

Tetsuya Nomura

EDIT: and Motomu Toriyama

 

[Wallach]

Tetsuya Nomura

Belts

Spoiler

This is six degrees, right?

 

[EmCeeGramr]

This sounds terrifically awful.

A defense of the game is after the first 20 hours of walking down totally straight hallways to reach the other side while battling, the world opens up a bit.

 

[AniHawk]

A defense of this game is after the first 20 hours of walking down totally straight hallways to reach the other side while battling, the world opens up a bit.

So it should appeal to fans of Kirby Air Ride.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

So it should appeal to fans of Kirby Air Ride.

Also you have two party members at a time and you can only directly control the leader.

One of them is an annoyingly accented Australian 15-year-old girl who's actually like a million years old or something stupid like that.

 

[AniHawk]

Also you have two party members at a time and you can only directly control the leader.

And it only took them 5 years to nail down this game?

 

[Kard8p3]

No, I think the discussion is centered on whether it's a good Metroid game. And judging by the reviews it's about in line with Fusion (something anyone could easily predict even back in 2009).

Sakamoto himself said it would be closer to Fusion than any other title in the series. Being like Fusion is perfect for me though as it's my second favorite Metroid game.

 

[Koodo]

I haven't played Final Fantasy XIII, but I have enjoyed the soundtrack.

The game's existence is validated.

 

[Regulus Tera]

And it only took them 5 years to nail down this game?

VersusXIII will rectify everything.

 

[Socreges]

Super Metroid, Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime 3 get a pass because...? Every metroid game that has had a map besides the first two Primes and MPH has done this. Prime 1 and 2 had sounds.

I can only speak for the 2D Metroid games, but the method of exploration/searching used in Other M sounds just different enough to really ruin the appeal of exploration that the series has always had.

People point to Fusion as an example of a linear game, but this was mostly NOT the case deeper into the game. It was necessary to find green parts (as opposed to blue) pretty regularly in order to progress and find most items. There was no indication that green areas were near. Sometimes they were just one square (one room) and sometimes they led to massive sections in the game. Fusion often did not lead you by the hand, particularly if you were looking for certain power-ups.

Other M's exploration sounds uniquely gimped.

Re: Other M giving away secrets with its map

So not even Super completely pleased Metroid fans?

Damn!

I've heard a lot of bullshit like this in these Other M threads. Do you guys even remember how the map worked in the 2D Metroids?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

There's a black guy named Sazh who keeps a chicken in his afro and literally utters lines like "I'm gettin' too old for this," "Dayumn," and "Hell nah." He fights by shooting guns gangsta style.

Then there's the 7-foot tall 28-year-old stoner resistance leader who punches robots to death, fighting for his 13-year-old fiance.

All this and you don't mention his flaming pimpmobile that bounces?

 

[Deleted member 30609]

I thought Jayden Smith did a pretty good job as Jayden Smith as Sazh's son.

 

[scitek]

Why are the Prime games completely ignored in the...I'll call it the "Japanese" storyline? Does this take place in a completely alternate reality or something?

 

[heringer]

As I said, that's wrong. Her portrayal is very specifically as an insecure female. A male character would not have been depicted the way Samus is in Other M. This was very deliberately chosen. They could have had her be a tough-as-nails character who rediscovered how to connect with people from her past, but that's not what has happened here.

So the game is sexist because she's not portrayed as a tough character?

Really?

 

[erpg]

Why are the Prime games completely ignored in the...I'll call it the "Japanese" storyline? Does this take place in a completely alternate reality or something?

Americans and their desire for an "Ellen Ripley" like Samus don't belong in a canon-Metroid universe!

 

[Poyunch]

So the game is sexist because she's not portrayed as a tough character?

Really?

Give up while you can. Oh and...

Also: calling a pseudo-father/daughter relationship sexist is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

 

[Regulus Tera]

So the game is sexist because she's not portrayed as a tough character?

Really?

It's sexist because it portrays a female character as submissive and wishful of a male authority figure.

 

[Haunted]

Did it take you straight to the credits?

I wish.

 

[scitek]

It's sexist because it portrays a female character as submissive and wishful of a male authority figure.

...but what if she actually is like that? I mean, there ARE women in the world like that.

 

[wsippel]

Other M's exploration sounds uniquely gimped.

Compared to the 2D Metroids, I'd say it isn't. It's nowhere near Prime in that regard, though. They really should have worked with Retro's level designers and environment artists - not that the Team Ninja guys did a bad job or anything, but those were the two areas Retro truly excelled at.

 

[sfried]

Why are the Prime games completely ignored in the...I'll call it the "Japanese" storyline? Does this take place in a completely alternate reality or something?

Are you kidding me? Japan loves Rundas! And I'm sure they like the Prime series as much as they do here.

I think it boils down to Sakimoto.

 

[Teknoman]

Why are the Prime games completely ignored in the...I'll call it the "Japanese" storyline? Does this take place in a completely alternate reality or something?

I dont think they are...then again, they are just stories to connect Metroid to Metroid II, just like Other M is just to connect Super and Fusion. They didnt really have that big of a story impact, much like Other M wont have much of an impact on Metroid V's story.

 

[Regulus Tera]

...but what if she actually is like that? I mean, there ARE women in the world like that.

That doesn't make it right.

I dont think they are...then again, they are just stories to connect Metroid to Metroid II, just like Other M is just to connect Super and Fusion. They didnt really have that big of a story impact, much like Other M wont have much of an impact on Metroid V's story.

Wait until you have to fight mecha Anthony Higgins in Metroid 3Dread.

 

[Poyunch]

It's sexist because it portrays a female character as submissive and wishful of a male authority figure.

Well fuck me for getting back into this. :lol

This is the problem with that argument. At its base it does look sexist. Yes but it ignores everything else about Samus. The fact that Adam was a strong figure, respectable to her.

It would be like calling The Legend of Zelda racist since Link a Hylian is killing off Ganondorf a Gerudo. Ignore the fact that Ganondorf is doing horrible acts it doesn't matter.

Samus has a reason to listen to Adam. It has nothing to do with their genders and has everything to do with their history together.

 

[Socreges]

Compared to the 2D Metroids, I'd say it isn't.

Why not?

 

[Teknoman]

That doesn't make it right.



Wait until you have to fight mecha Anthony Higgins in Metroid 3Dread.

:lol SA-X style entrance, "REMEMBER ME?" complete with glowing pupiless blue eyes after the visor raises.

 

[Kard8p3]

Under no circumstances should anyone here got to the other m video section at gamespot. I went to watch the video review and at the side they have some extremely spoilerific videos up.

 

[wsippel]

It's sexist because it portrays a female character as submissive and wishful of a male authority figure.

I would agree if Samus and Adam had some sort of sexual relationship, but they have a father/ daughter thing going on. That's a completely different situation. Can't be sexist if the sexuality is out of the equation. And it is.

 

[Fisticuffs]

If you don't like the cutscenes, you shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the game. I'm sorry.

oh cmon

 

[Windom Earle]

I can't believe that fucking pirates are already playing this game

 

[scitek]

Are you kidding me? Japan loves Rundas! And I'm sure they like the Prime series as much as they do here.

I think it boils down to Sakimoto.

I'm not implying that the Japanese demand the story be ignored or anything, but the games that have taken place since Prime that aren't in the Prime series have basically acted like they never happened. Just a mention of the events that took place in one of them would be cool, since they were kind of vital to the formation of Samus' badass status in Metroid II, Super Metroid, Other M and Fusion.

 

[Amir0x]

Let's put it this way: I didn't even like it. I know.

All you need to know about FFXIII.

It's just that bad

I'm still buying this game but it's a shame the route they went. fears realized and all that

 

[heringer]

It's sexist because it portrays a female character as submissive and wishful of a male authority figure.

Kinda like the GTA games are teaching our young males how to be criminals. Filthy games. All of them. That San Andreas game is also racist because the main character is a black man that happens to be a criminal.

 

[wsippel]

Why not?

In 2D Metroids, you knew the screen an expansion was hidden in. In Other M, you get more precise information, but you still don't know how to get there. The latter can end up being much more complicated in 3D space, and some of the rooms are rather large, so I'd consider that a fair tradeoff. By the way, there are unmarked expansions as well, and expansion that are only revealed after solving optional - and not always obvious - puzzles.

 

[Extollere]

The story I'm hearing about Samus isn't surprising. Japan loves stories with weak protagonists and emotional hurdles. It aint nothin unless there's a complex or two and plenty of awkward moments.

 

[Ydahs]

hey guys, i'm playing ffxiii now and am enjoyin it. is that bannable on the gaf???

 

[Regulus Tera]

Well fuck me for getting back into this. :lol

This is the problem with that argument. At it's base it does look sexist. Yes but it ignores everything else about Samus. The fact that Adam was a strong figure, respectable to her.

It would be like calling The Legend of Zelda racist since Link a Hylian is killing off Ganondorf a Gerudo. Ignore the fact that Ganondorf is doing horrible acts it doesn't matter.

Samus has a reason to listen to Adam. It has nothing to do with their genders and has everything to do with their history together.

I think I shall refrain from commenting any further in the matter until playing the game and seeing how they pull it out. It's just that I have no faith in Sakamoto in being tasteful and mature about this issue.

Kinda like the GTA games are teaching our young males how to be criminals. Filthy games. All of them. That San Andreas game is also racist because the main character is a black man that happens to be a criminal.

:lol I don't know how to react to this.

 

[Socreges]

I would agree if Samus and Adam had some sort of sexual relationship, but they have a father/ daughter thing going on. That's a completely different situation. Can't be sexist if the sexuality is out of the equation. And it is.

I don't think you understand what sexism is. It's not about sexuality. It's about sex. Not sexual intercourse, though, but in the 'there are males and there are females' respect.

And yes the story/dialogue sounds quite sexist.

 

[AniHawk]

I can't believe that fucking pirates are already playing this game

Fucking pirates are the worst kind of pirates. I'd say fuck them but that would be playing into their hands.

 

[Amir0x]

Fucking pirates are the worst kind of pirates. I'd say fuck them but that would be playing into their hands.

heh for some reason i dont know i giggled

like some impish child

 

[RockmanWhore]

...but what if she actually is like that? I mean, there ARE women in the world like that.

They only exist in your perverted sexist mind.

 

[desertdroog]

I can't believe that fucking pirates are already playing this game

Space Pirates are total bastards...not like those funky Ice Pirates.

>_>