What I'm mostly worried about is the fact that the game doesn't seem complicated in the footage shown so far, now this works at the start but I'd be pretty dissapointed if all morphball parts are as simplistic as shown in the Giantbomb Quicklook and if the game itself also has fairly basic environments in terms of lay-out. I haven't seen anything that blew me away like Phendrana Drifts or even Brinstar. I've only seen square space halls with or without decoration.
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Metroid Other M |OT| You're Not Supposed to Remember Him
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Played for around two hours so far.
+ Am enjoying the game play. Everything goes very fast and I have found it extremely easy to get used to the control scheme.
+ No waggle!
+ Despite being mostly-linear, it does feel like a bit of Metroidvania is there when searching for items. It reminds of Metroid Fusion in its linearity. *
- Too much storyline. Some of the cut scenes just drag on too long and break up the flow of the action. It's not exactly a blast running down empty corridors then watching dialogue or a flashback for five minutes.
- You really can just furiously tap the d-pad during enemy encounters and dodge everything.
+ But some enemies cannot be killed by dodging and shooting!
In some ways, the game feels like "My first Ninja Gaiden." It plays like a simplified version of the Team Ninja-developed action series. Other M hasn't been difficult, but has been fun. If an action-oriented Metroid (and seriously, one that at times feels a little too much like Ninja Gaiden) sounds good to you, you'll probably like this. Just be prepared for an abundance of (stupid) cut scenes.
I'd say that this is a "B" game so far and to wait for a price drop, but it's a Nintendo game, so that probably isn't going to happen for a couple of years...if at all, LOL.
* Regarding the lack of an exploration element, it is still there...sort of. A lot of power-up items for Samus to find are hidden in spots that you'll either need to veer off the path to find or have certain abilities active to reach. A lot of people referred to Batman Arkham Asylum as being a Metroidvania style game, which I did not agree with-- that game held your hand the whole way through and the only "exploration" element was to find the optional audio tapes and the like. This game is the same way, yet people seem to be whining about it too much. This is not a traditional Metroid game...either accept it and enjoy it for what it is, or just pass on it and go replay Super Metroid instead.
+ Am enjoying the game play. Everything goes very fast and I have found it extremely easy to get used to the control scheme.
+ No waggle!
+ Despite being mostly-linear, it does feel like a bit of Metroidvania is there when searching for items. It reminds of Metroid Fusion in its linearity. *
- Too much storyline. Some of the cut scenes just drag on too long and break up the flow of the action. It's not exactly a blast running down empty corridors then watching dialogue or a flashback for five minutes.
- You really can just furiously tap the d-pad during enemy encounters and dodge everything.
+ But some enemies cannot be killed by dodging and shooting!
In some ways, the game feels like "My first Ninja Gaiden." It plays like a simplified version of the Team Ninja-developed action series. Other M hasn't been difficult, but has been fun. If an action-oriented Metroid (and seriously, one that at times feels a little too much like Ninja Gaiden) sounds good to you, you'll probably like this. Just be prepared for an abundance of (stupid) cut scenes.
I'd say that this is a "B" game so far and to wait for a price drop, but it's a Nintendo game, so that probably isn't going to happen for a couple of years...if at all, LOL.
* Regarding the lack of an exploration element, it is still there...sort of. A lot of power-up items for Samus to find are hidden in spots that you'll either need to veer off the path to find or have certain abilities active to reach. A lot of people referred to Batman Arkham Asylum as being a Metroidvania style game, which I did not agree with-- that game held your hand the whole way through and the only "exploration" element was to find the optional audio tapes and the like. This game is the same way, yet people seem to be whining about it too much. This is not a traditional Metroid game...either accept it and enjoy it for what it is, or just pass on it and go replay Super Metroid instead.
Oh, and I started replaying Metroid Fusion last night. I never played much of that game and decided to start over and go through it. It definitely reminds of me of Other M in its pacing and the way that areas are separated into specific types by number.
heringer said:
This guy seems impressed. He even thought the story for the game was good. I'm glad he mentioned the game opened up a bit more later in the game. Since Fusion did the same I expected this game to do it but to have it confirmed is nice. Still can't wait to get my hands on this game.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Amir0x said:
I wasnt talking about negativity, I was saying the play thing because of the sexism debacle. When more people play it, even if ithey think its good or bad, this thread will turn better.
RPG_Fanatic
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2 More days. Already got the call from EB games, so I'll be picking up the game first thing Tuesday morning. 
brandonh83
Banned
Got my grubby paws on Metroid Fusion from a local mom and pops store, I feel that if I play through this one while waiting for Other M, I may appreciate its style more rather than hoping for another Super Metroid, or even Prime.
brandonh83
Banned
Kard8p3 said:
I am. And it is fucking awesome. The atmosphere and music is really great so far. I'm already having a blast with it and I'm just now getting to the Quarantine Bay :lol
I'm not familiar with it, but D+PAD Magazine's review of Other M is 4.5 out 5 score. It didn't have anything bad to say about it other than the a nitpick of the game's length not offering much replay value given that its strictly a single player game.
Whoops, already been mentioned here.
Whoops, already been mentioned here.
Doogington
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Spoilers
This game
This game
is like a poor remake of metroid fusion in 3d. It has such a similar plot and toward the end it's like the exact same things happen. Even nightmare shows up, the bastard. Sakamoto totally pulled a Lucas here with the story. It sucks. A lot. Thoughout the game there are plenty of cutscenes that are just as terrible as the beginning. The dialogue is never good and fans of this story must have beyond awful taste. I find that combat is always a chore. Everything a new enemy shows up it's like, son of a bitch. Fights break down into this: Run around while attemping to avoid enemies until your charge fills up. Release the fire button and repeat. Controls never feel simplified. They feel restrictive. Having to go into first person to fire missiles is annoying. Not being able to choose when to fire missiles and when to do a charge shot is annoying. You may say you can choose but you have to hold B to look around. B also locks on. What the hell is this? You'll often lock onto something and be forced into firing missiles. AND THE CONCENTRATION. Dreadful. You never get any energy back from enemies so you have to pull this off to survive. But it takes forever to do and you can't move. During most boss fights it's nearly impossible to do. And with bosses often chaining shit together you'll be down to no health in a matter of seconds if you don't pull off perfect dodges. And another thing, holding the controller sideways is uncomfortable.
strx said:
Stop getting hit and maybe you won't have to recover as much. The sense move is extremely responsive. I was wishing at times they'd make it less lenient. You can literally dodge everything with ease. No issues holding it sideways either. It's not as bad as the original NES controller.
Doogington
Member
Looking back, it's not entirely bad. Certainly the worst metroid game, but not a bad game. I honestly have more bad things to say than good.
And kiryogi, did I personally offend you or something? Also, while it may be better than an NES controller it's not better than holding the the remote normally with a nunchuck. The decision to make it "simplified" was a bad one and that decision is not reflected in the design of the game as nearly everything would have benefited from proper controls.
And kiryogi, did I personally offend you or something? Also, while it may be better than an NES controller it's not better than holding the the remote normally with a nunchuck. The decision to make it "simplified" was a bad one and that decision is not reflected in the design of the game as nearly everything would have benefited from proper controls.
AceBandage
Banned
I think, given how careful Nintendo is with all their franchises, it's nice that they can use one to experiment with.
Even if it doesn't always turn out to be perfect.
Can't wait for Tuesday!
Still haven't gotten a call from Gamestop, though.
Even if it doesn't always turn out to be perfect.
Can't wait for Tuesday!
Still haven't gotten a call from Gamestop, though.
CcrooK said:
Yeah I know.
I'm not sure how sexist the game is, but, it does annoy me that they're seemingly breaking up the gameplay of a Metroid game with a bunch of cutscenes. Was one of my initial fears, outside of tonal/gameplay issues.
Seems they got a lot of elements right, but that it's a low...low...tier Metroid game.
Doogington
Member
I didn't really pick up on the sexism too much but it does give you the impression that
Also having things be authorized to use instead of finding them was utterly stupid.
LIES. This game may be modeled after fusion but I would not say if you enjoyed fusion you'd enjoy other m.
Samus is a traumitized little girl with no real experience on the field. Given everything we've come to know about Samus in the games, not the godawful manga, you'd think she would be a little tougher and be able to deal with things better than she did.
Also having things be authorized to use instead of finding them was utterly stupid.
Samus: I'm burning alive but I'll wait for Adam to say it's ok to use the Varia suit because I wouldn't want to disobey his orders.
kiryogi said:
LIES. This game may be modeled after fusion but I would not say if you enjoyed fusion you'd enjoy other m.
kiryogi said:
I don't think Fusion broke up the gameplay with anywhere near the level of cutscenes this game has, nor does it have that iffy first person mechanic which at least half of reviewers seem to feel is a fairly significant control problem.
They may be equivalent in terms of pacing and linearity, but Other M still differentiates itself substantially by several of its features.
LowParry
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Amir0x said:
I haven't been following much. How bad are the cutscenes? I expect the voice acting to be terrible anyway. That was a quick note right from the trailers we've seen. The way Samus sounds is just so monotone. Meh. Should this just be a renter then? I'm starting to have some doubts about this game. I have plenty to look forward to and I wouldn't mind picking this game up later down the line. I'm making up for my lack of PSP time.
AceBandage
Banned
gdt5016 said:
Nothing concrete. HAL Laboratory has seen a few of their projects, but of course, can't say anything.
AceBandage
Banned
PounchEnvy said:
No.
Dread was a project Sakamoto was working on. It never got out of the planning stages, though.
Throwaway123456789
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I'm now five/six hours in and my god this is so mediocre
Square Triangle
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I suppose I'll just play the Trilogy..
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Little Green Yoda
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Amir0x said:
I'm starting to regret using my $10 Amazon promo credit on preordering Other M. :/
Socreges said:Has anyone besides you actually said this? Doesn't seem to be the case at all.
Also, you bought DoA Xtreme Beach Volleyball, right?
Lyteedge just reinforced it earlier in terms of how the pacing is. And the MDB review states it too. Well more so linear in comparison but same ideas and pacing.
I'm not saying otherwise. Closest to Fusion does not mean "this game is practically Metroid Fusion".farnham said:
Pacing, sure. But you've taken the comparison much further than that.kiryogi said:
Anyway, we'll see. I loved Fusion. But that gives me no confidence. I do expect to enjoy Other M, but likely irrespective of why I was able to enjoy Fusion.
Throwaway123456789
Member
It's nothing like Fusion except that you're sent to different sections and it's super linear. I absolutely adore Fusion and this just isn't a solid game.
I've shouted at the TV for the sheer stupidity that authorizing weapons is several times. I'm running around in a fucking lava world for an hour before Adam finally says "Oh, you should probably activate your Varia Suit" which not only gives me better protection for the heat but also reduces the damage taken by enemies. Same with the different beam types as well - it just makes no fucking sense not to be able to use them. It's hilariously HORRIBLE.
I've shouted at the TV for the sheer stupidity that authorizing weapons is several times. I'm running around in a fucking lava world for an hour before Adam finally says "Oh, you should probably activate your Varia Suit" which not only gives me better protection for the heat but also reduces the damage taken by enemies. Same with the different beam types as well - it just makes no fucking sense not to be able to use them. It's hilariously HORRIBLE.
Played it for a bit at a friend's place today.
Perhaps it isn't a bad game, but it certainly appears to be a very bad Metroid game.
Horrendous dialogue and so so voice acting. Uninspired and generally poor visuals. Controls that leave a lot, and I mean a lot, to be desired. Indicating "hidden items" on the map (what the fuck is wrong with you Team Ninja/Nintendo?). The stupidly contrived means of "unlocking" "new" items. The Pussyfication of Samus Aran.
I think I'm going to fire up Prime 1 to wash the bad taste from my mouth.
Definitely not worth a purchase as far as I'm concerned. Do yourself a favour and get the Prime Trilogy or just get Super Metroid and the GBA games.
Perhaps it isn't a bad game, but it certainly appears to be a very bad Metroid game.
Horrendous dialogue and so so voice acting. Uninspired and generally poor visuals. Controls that leave a lot, and I mean a lot, to be desired. Indicating "hidden items" on the map (what the fuck is wrong with you Team Ninja/Nintendo?). The stupidly contrived means of "unlocking" "new" items. The Pussyfication of Samus Aran.
I think I'm going to fire up Prime 1 to wash the bad taste from my mouth.
Definitely not worth a purchase as far as I'm concerned. Do yourself a favour and get the Prime Trilogy or just get Super Metroid and the GBA games.
Mt Heart Attack
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We'll probably find out in 2013:/gdt5016 said:
I was so disappointed when Nintendo announced Retro was working on a.. 2D Donkey Kong:/ Don't know, I'm already tired of these full price, full-fledged 2D games on home consoles, Mario last year and maybe Kirby this year would have been enough.