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Metroid Other M |OT| You're Not Supposed to Remember Him
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I'm only annoyed Retro is working on DKCR not because it's 2D but because I hate the Donkey Kong Country games. Fucking terrible.
The only good thing about them were the soundtracks and I don't think the same guy is working on this one
Sidenote: Little surprised about the turn against Metroid Prime 3. I think it's the weakest Prime game myself, because the level design starts to falter a bit and the way they tell the story (particularly early on) is lame, but it's got all the same core principles that made the first two so good.
I am of course not talking to those who always hated the Prime games, they're just a little bit funky.
The only good thing about them were the soundtracks and I don't think the same guy is working on this one
Sidenote: Little surprised about the turn against Metroid Prime 3. I think it's the weakest Prime game myself, because the level design starts to falter a bit and the way they tell the story (particularly early on) is lame, but it's got all the same core principles that made the first two so good.
I am of course not talking to those who always hated the Prime games, they're just a little bit funky.
Mt Heart Attack
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Well yeah it does have some ambient/industrial/sci-fi/metroidy undertones^^darkpaladinmfc said:
Magicpaint said:
unfortunately, it's DKCR and not DKC2R. The first game had very little vertical platforming and this looks like it's going to follow suit (unless you have Diddy Kong, but it sounds like it's more of a support character).
Regardless, someone did have to come in and tell them not to design levels like they were speed runs.
And, to their credit, Retro did manage to get a game right, once, with Metroid Prime 3, and maybe a second time, accidentally, with Metroid Prime.
Amir0x said:I'm only annoyed Retro is working on DKCR not because it's 2D but because I hate the Donkey Kong Country games. Fucking terrible.
The only good thing about them were the soundtracks and I don't think the same guy is working on this one
Sidenote: Little surprised about the turn against Metroid Prime 3. I think it's the weakest Prime game myself, because the level design starts to falter a bit and the way they tell the story (particularly early on) is lame, but it's got all the same core principles that made the first two so good.
I am of course not talking to those who always hated the Prime games, they're just a little bit funky.
My hate for it comes because of the new controls. The Prime games have very, ummm, deliberate combat. The rest of it was okay, but not nearly as good as MP1.
JasonUresti
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AniHawk said:
Yeah, time to freshen up the character. It's getting a bit boring.
I mean the whole "I think shitty games like Klonoa are really good, and great games like Prime suck" worked well for you, but I think you have better trolls inside, just waiting to bust out.
Corruption's bosses were near-universally terrible. I thought the game took a swift decline in quality following the first Ridley encounter, and save the fight with Omega Ridley later in the game had few standout moments and a lot of been-there, done that dullery.Amir0x said:I'm only annoyed Retro is working on DKCR not because it's 2D but because I hate the Donkey Kong Country games. Fucking terrible.
The only good thing about them were the soundtracks and I don't think the same guy is working on this one
Sidenote: Little surprised about the turn against Metroid Prime 3. I think it's the weakest Prime game myself, because the level design starts to falter a bit and the way they tell the story (particularly early on) is lame, but it's got all the same core principles that made the first two so good.
I am of course not talking to those who always hated the Prime games, they're just a little bit funky.
It felt like Metroid bite-sized or "my first Metroid," especially with the introduction of
It was a frustrating experience. Other M looks like it is similarly limited, but at least I'm expecting it this time.
Amir0x said:I'm only annoyed Retro is working on DKCR not because it's 2D but because I hate the Donkey Kong Country games. Fucking terrible.
The only good thing about them were the soundtracks and I don't think the same guy is working on this one
Sidenote: Little surprised about the turn against Metroid Prime 3. I think it's the weakest Prime game myself, because the level design starts to falter a bit and the way they tell the story (particularly early on) is lame, but it's got all the same core principles that made the first two so good.
I am of course not talking to those who always hated the Prime games, they're just a little bit funky.
Isnt it supposed to be a 100% original DK platforming game though, and not a remake or anything? I'm just hoping its closer to Jungle Beat's art/soundtrack style (DKC series did have some nice music, but everything in Jungle Beat just seemed to...fit DK as a character/ give him more personality than he's ever had...if that makes any sense).
Rahxephon91
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This game looks pretty good. I may consider a Wii purchase because of this. It;s actually the first Metriod I've ever been interested in.
The reviews I've read and watched just make it look like a typical Japanese game I'd enjoy.
The reviews I've read and watched just make it look like a typical Japanese game I'd enjoy.
Lost Fragment
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Picked up the game last night. I've only had the chance to play a few hours but so far, the Fusion comparison is pretty apt.
Not sure what I think about the game yet otherwise. But I will say that the cutscenes and dialogue haven't really bothered me yet. And that the "hey you've had this shit all along but you can only use it when Adam says so" stuff is fucking retarded.
Not sure what I think about the game yet otherwise. But I will say that the cutscenes and dialogue haven't really bothered me yet. And that the "hey you've had this shit all along but you can only use it when Adam says so" stuff is fucking retarded.
Throwaway123456789
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Teknoman said:
Still doesn't hinder the fact that it's UTTERLY RETARDED. I'm fighting strong enemies and dying several times when Samus could just whip out a better fucking weapon and, you know, NOT DIE.
I'm dying of thirst whilst carrying ten bottles of water god damn it.
Fimbulvetr
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Gigglepoo said:
You mean plot wise?
Because I've seen better.
darkpaladinmfc
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Kinda genius how accurately Retro translated the Metroid feel into the first person perspective -- sequence breaking intact and all. From what I've read/seen of Other M, sequence breaking is going to be quite difficult.AniHawk said:
That's a funny way to spell "flight of the zinger"!Mt Heart Attack said:Now that's heresy
*types Kannon's Klaim on Youtube" FUCK YEAH so awesome
As for the reason for samuses powers being locked, having them have to be authorised does seem silly, since it makes the player think "I HAVE this shit already, what a dick move by the game". Having the powers be stolen or corrupted for some other reason, while over done, wouldn't give the player the constant feeling of being stiffed by the game.
Lost Fragment
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Amir0x said:
A big difference to me, at least so far, is that in the older games you weren't constantly slapped across the face with how dumb the reason was that you lost your stuff. When you're playing another Metroid game, after a while you don't really think "man I just got coldcocked from like 50 feet in the air by this boss and scrapped against solid steel, but I lost my stuff at the beginning because a blast bumped me into a wall too hard?" With this game, it's like "I had this shit all along and it would've helped so much against this earlier thing" every time you get something.
I don't know why they even bother trying to come up with a believable explanation, honestly. I mean, they never try to address why Samus always seems to accidentally leave her spare energy tanks and missile packs in her other power suit or anything.
Ami addressed this above.Lost Fragment said:
It's a formula. The way it plays can change, but the formula is really basic to Metroid. I'm not saying it can't change, but it doesn't look like anybody wants it to.
Not sure how much sense not being able to use your Varia suit has. I can understand something like the plasma beam or power bombs, stuff that can penetrate walls and potentially kill the good guys around you, but something like your grapple beam? Tough to justify.Teknoman said:
I've had Other M on pre-order through Amazon for a couple of months, can't wait. The reviews don't bother me -- even though the game does seem polarizing, the majority of reviews are in the 8 range. Dunno about anyone else, but the story doesn't really bother me, either. I find it ironic that after years of complaining about a lack of narrative in Nintendo games, the game journalist hivemind is now on Sakamoto's case... for better or for worse, it's basically Nintendo's first foray into modern-day gaming storytelling. Gotta cut 'em some slack if it's not up to Valve standards, y'know?...
donkey show
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The
was awesome. The lethal strikes you get to pull of are sweet.
Ridley boss fight
MisterLuffy
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I haven't got the game yet, but I'll play the game soon. I can't get spoiled.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Well, the lava thing was always in Metroid, you maybe go into a room where your life goes down becuase you dont have the varia suit, but in this case is becuase you cant activated. I see how people can be offended, but IMO is the same type of gameplay but triying to explain it.
And that kids is why we have ignore lists in NeoGAF!
ShockingAlberto said:
And that kids is why we have ignore lists in NeoGAF!
ShockingAlberto
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whoa hold on, that's a little sexistandymcc said:
I am the sort of Metroid fan that "actual" Metroid fans hate. I don't give a damn about sequence breaking or performing crazy shinespark combos (although I'll admit how cool they are), I've never recalled playing through a Metroid game and feeling wowed about some invisible sense of isolation, and I'm thrilled to all hell at the prospect of Nintendo actually developing an actual personality for one of its major characters and giving her and others voice work to do it. Even if the way Samus is turns out to be something I'm not a huge fan of, I'll give them credit for finally taking that kind of narrative step and I hope they can use that experience in other games too. I didn't have anything to do with the creation of Samus, so as long as the way she acts in this doesn't completely contradict her actions in the other games, I can't accuse them of "ruining" her previously almost non-existent character.
The authorization thing sounds really contrived, but if it's just being presented that way to serve the gameplay purpose of not having all your abilities unlocked from the get-go, I can at least sort of forgive it. As long as the actual running, jumping, and shooting works (and general response I've read indicates that it does, once you adjust to the d-pad controls), I expect I'll enjoy this game even through some potentially head-scratching cutscenes.
The authorization thing sounds really contrived, but if it's just being presented that way to serve the gameplay purpose of not having all your abilities unlocked from the get-go, I can at least sort of forgive it. As long as the actual running, jumping, and shooting works (and general response I've read indicates that it does, once you adjust to the d-pad controls), I expect I'll enjoy this game even through some potentially head-scratching cutscenes.
I don't think anyone (or too many at least) really have a problem with the formula, but the explanation this time around is a dick move on the games behalf, in terms of the narrative.Crunched said:
Edit: gotta agree with doorman about this being a huge step for nintendo in terms of characterization. Hopefully it encourages them to try more of this!