GymWolf
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And i wasn't quoting you, but the guy who said that metroid is gonna beat every other fps.
Metroid Prime 4: Beyond | Nintendo Direct
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darrylgorn
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This hot purple seems to cheapen the look.
Physiognomonics
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This is why Nintendo stays winning. It's all about great game design with sweet 60fps, great artstyle and good image quality. Sure it looks like a Metroid prime sequel running on a X360, but isn't that great and enough? Yep because the gameplay, artstyle, sound are all top notch. No need of fake CGI trailers or cringe acting in a woke story. This is videogame art, not movie or novel / political art.
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
It will likely beat every FPS in scale and length. Will it beat out every FPS when it comes to actual combat? I don't think so. Not even close. But the combat isn't why people play Metroid Prime.
In the same vein that Doom isn't really played for Exploration or it's Story. But it's combat.
GymWolf
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Then we can agree that prime 4 is gonna beat many fps in some aspects and lose in some aspects.
Or we can just categorize metroid as first person adventure (where you still kill a truckload of enemies) and cut the comparison alltogether.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Oh for sure. Just give me more Sci-Fi First Person Adventures full of mystery and I'm a happy guy.
The genre should be expanded. Then again it being a niche genre is also what makes it so special.
GymWolf
Member
Not the same exact genre, but you could look into system shock remake for some first person scifi goodness.
I think the first person adventure genre is slightly more prolific on pc, not much action but a lot of first persona games with puzzles, exploration etc.
Not exactly my genre (i also need to kill stuff from time to time) so i can't really list many titles.
Edit: there is a first person scifi game that lot of people love, it is called similarly to "the outer world", it's the-different word-worlds, i can't fucking remember the word in the middle...
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rhodesianshepard
Banned
Thinking a game should review just as well as games that came out between 17-22 years ago is absolutely absurd. If it wants to be great, MP4 needs to evolve like every other game
Exactly. Bog standard for a Prime game is gonna be incredible.
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Woopah
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It's actually my favourite one. I really liked the different planets, ship mechanics, controls, and the way they fixed the backtracking.
Dr. Wilkinson
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No it's reading that is the issue. It sold over a million in 3 weeks. Because of the end of the fiscal year. You said 3 mil, I said 1. And it hasn't been tracked since so it's certainly higher than that by now. As it's been nearly a year and a half, and it was only $40.Like i said Metroid Pri,e 4 has the potential to sell the best numbers in the series, but it's not starting from a massive base, Metroid Prime Corruption on the Wii sold only 1.4 million copies, which on a system with a 100 million consoles out there, is pretty mediocre to say the least.
Not hating on the game, as I love the franchise, but this is getting nowhere near the sales some are suggesting, as i stated the recent remaster, which had a massive potential new audience on the Switch failed to ignite sales, not sure where you get the figure of 3 million in three weeks, it has only sold around a million copies, perhaps thats the issue here, we are imaging games are selling more than they actually are.
And using the Wii as a comparison is not a good way to project sales for a new entry. The system petered out after 2009 and was really only a crazy seller for its first three years, as a primarily casual machine. Switch is primarily a core gamer machine and achieved 130+ million on the backs of games like Zelda, Luigi's Mansion, Smash and 3D Mario. Metroid Prime 4 will absolutely blow previous entry sales out of the water.
But no need to argue about a hypothetical. We'll see how the next Switch generation goes. I wouldn't even have responded to this but you were reading my post wrong and incorrectly attributed a sales figure to me that I didn't say.
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Bamco, I think.
Robb
Gold Member
Yes. It was handed to them back in 2019 when Nintendo scrapped everything and re-started development from scratch.
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tommib
Banned
That was before. Retro took over.
Luminoth-4545
Member
You're either a deluded fanboyYeh sorry watched it on my phone, watched it again on my tv, looks like a early ps3 game, absolute shit
, insane lunatic that denies reality or an inflammatory troll , my guess is the latter. It looks far more advanced than anything the PS3 did let alone early 1st party PS3 games like Resistance Fall of Man.
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Deerock71
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Luminoth-4545
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I enjoyed it very much, for gameplay variety and mechanics Corruption was the best one but it lacked the impact of the first one and atmosphere of Echoes along with annoying motion controls.
LastBattle
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I'm sure I'll pick this up, hopefully as a Switch 2 launch title as I've always been a huge Metroid fan. Especially the Prime games. Not gonna lie though, that reveal was very underwhelming and did nothing to sell the game. Was hoping for an evolution in the series but that looked stale.
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Kiya's Guard
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So sad it had to get the curse of crossgen, but hey more sales
tommib
Banned
You're either a deluded fanboy
And let's not talk about performance. Those resistance games ran like crap at barely 30 fps. Metroid Prime titles will ALWAYS run at locked 60. No small feature, my boys.
IDappa
Member
Never really played the Metroid games (do play Nintendo games) but I have to say this honestly looks like shit. Can someone tell me why people are hyped for this, is it a hardcore nintendo fan thing?. It looks pretty enough but the enemies not reacting to getting shot, the shooting itself looks clunky af, from the brief snippet of gameplay level structure looks limited. Look at doom 2016 and this it completely shits on it.
Idk, maybe I need to wait for more gameplay and don't have enough knowledge of the older fps Metroid games.
Idk, maybe I need to wait for more gameplay and don't have enough knowledge of the older fps Metroid games.
Retro has always been like this, they need something new to thrive, imo they put all thier best eggs in the first basket and thier sequels are left with the scraps. I think constantly giving them new franchises is the best move.
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tommib
Banned
This is not an action doom game. This is an atmospheric Metroidvania full of environmental puzzles with different abilities available for you to progress. It's all about the mood, the stellar electronic ambient soundtrack, the ha-ha moments when a path opens up… The action that is there is never to stop you on your tracks.
Boss fights can be really good, creative and intense though. But please, no more Doom comparisons.
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N0S
Al Pachinko, Konami President
But its trending!
splattered
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I really enjoyed the previous metroid prime games back in the day but this looks like hot trash... and not in a good way. This game has been rumored/in development for HOW long? The only thing that looked halfway decent at this direct was the new Mario game. That looks pretty sweet.
IDappa
Member
I see, your breakdown actually makes me more interested in it. Thanks!. However I still presume the shooting part is plays a big part in the game though?. Just feels weird to give a shooter so much hype when the shooting part doesn't look that interesting. Now if it had impactful shooting mechanics and the puzzles it could be something more.
Woopah
Member
It because its not really a tradional shooter. The previous games allow you to lock on to enemies, which most FPS don't let you do, and you don't really get different weapon types either.
The emphasis is more on exploration and puzzle solving, though the combat is still fun.
If you play other Nintendo games, a good comparison to think about is how the combat in a 3D Zelda trailer doesn't look anything like the combat in a Devil May Cry or Bayonetta game.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
They copied it from Dragon Age: Dreadwolf. I bet they will make Samus canonically pansexual.
LordOfChaos
Member
It was end of generation and pulled true magic out of that box
I always liked the story of Halo 4 and would have been interested in that direction, then they restarted the story for the next two games
rodrigolfp
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I love Halo4 its tragic how it was gutted by 5.
cireza
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They have nothing in common with games like Doom or Halo, with the exception of being first person. Metroid Prime games are platformers and exploration games. Enemies are obstacles to navigate around or quickly dispose off before you resume your exploration. Aiming is non existent, you are meant to lock on the enemy, and the target area to put your lock is extremely large. Bosses are puzzle based, like Zelda games, where you have to find the right sequence and repeat it. Skill is not essential at all.
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Majukun
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it's not an fps, since there is no manual shooting (or at least there was none in the first two games, didn't try the third one on wii), but a first person adventure, so mainly reliant on puzzle solving and exploration, with some shooty combat sparsed here and there
if you wanna get into it for the shooting, don't, but there is plenty more
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I dunno man those Federation Force sales seem to tell a different story.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Aiming is very existing and I avoid using brain dead auto aim to have some fun.
Federation Force sales tell nothing about why I play Metroid Prime.
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Chiggs
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I can honestly say that what I felt yesterday was...hatred? I know that seems maybe just a bit ridiculous given that we're talking about a video game here, but there's something about Nintendo's penchant for withholding content, coupled with their terrible timing, that just makes me see red. They're such fuckers and some of it seems either deliberately spiteful, or inadvertently moronic....either way it sucks.
I'm bracing myself for the Switch 2 backwards compatibility letdown...something is just going to be off there. You can almost feel it.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
There is, in both.
cireza
Member
Well it seems you haven't played the GC games because this was the only way of playing back then, as for precise aiming, you were forced into staying still. Never was the point of Metroid Prime anyway. You would stay still a single second to catch the next target to lock, or move around with the view centered, this is how the games were played.
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
So it's not just the combat for why people play Metroid Prime.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
cireza
Member
Of course you do. To lock on to something high above for example. So you lock the visor, Samus puts her hand on the gun, and you can move the view around. Then you can shoot at some crates, targets, or lock onto what is of interest. But the ability to aim precisely is purely used in a contextual manner for you to lock on the next thing or destroy some backgrounds, still elements. You rarely use it in fights.
Alebrije
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Finally, MP4....still have My silver Gamecube that came with MP.
If there is a Switch 2 versión just hope it has better visuals than the one for Switch 1.
People must remember Metroid Prime is a FPE not a FPS. The Game focus on exploration, discovering...there is always a sense of mistery. Prime is not about just jump kill all enemies and advance, that is just a part of gameplay but not the most important.
If there is a Switch 2 versión just hope it has better visuals than the one for Switch 1.
People must remember Metroid Prime is a FPE not a FPS. The Game focus on exploration, discovering...there is always a sense of mistery. Prime is not about just jump kill all enemies and advance, that is just a part of gameplay but not the most important.
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Portugeezer
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As much as Zelda is an RPG, I guess.
Retro could always make it more FPS like, but it was hard to tell from the trailer.
TerribleAtThisGame
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That whole logo looks like a shitty 90s Dance album. It's bafflingly terrible.
Švejk
Banned
Should be called Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Veil Guard Fall Era
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Team Andromeda
Member
Well said, mate. Prime is a Futuristic version of Exhumed/Powerslave
Team Andromeda
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Prime 4 looks so much like Hal0 5 for me
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Robb
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
You can complain about it now since its exactly the same complaint you make about Prime 4, just with Prime 3. So why aren't you?
So does your face (and your avatar).
Since clearly you can't bring any indepth argument to the table besides hyperbole that makes no sense, so shall my answers also be devoid of argument. Petty? Sure. But that's the level of discourse you chose to operate on.
What's comparable? I know of Morphite, but there aren't many Prime clones out there, perhaps the formula is difficult to replicate?
Facts would mean you have something back it up with. All you have is your words and that's as devoid from facts as you saying MP4 looks like a turd.
If you want to bring Habbo Hotel-level commentary to the table, try a different place.