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Metroid: Samus Returns |OT| What's past is prologue.
- Thread starter TheMoon
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You'd still give it close to what is basically the average from all reviewers though, so that's good, right?
I actually played a small chunk of the original Metroid I and II on 3DS VC last night after 2 hours of SR, and it's not like they're brimming with enemy encounters either. Didn't notice too much of the sound effects since I don't have that intimate a knowledge of the series.
So far, about 4 hours in, it feels really damn good with an excellent feeling of progression. I'd say the only thing I'm a little iffy about is the similarities between all of the Metroid battles so far. Hopefully they bring much more variety as things progress.
I've also noticed a lot of people picking this up as their first Metroid. I guess it's just anecdotal, but it seems to me like SR is getting a lot of mainstream interest. Hope we get some sales numbers soon.
Would be legit amazing if it overperformed Nintendo's expectations. Talk about a comeback!
They're new arrangements. Magmoor Caverns is originally Lower Norfair from Super Metroid, so you can say they took it from that instead.
drangleic tourism
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I live in a small ish city(approx 24 thousand), and all the copies my local Walmart got were gone except one the day after launch. I think they had like 8-10 copies originally.
All the Metroid amiibo sold out.
I know it's anecdotal, but I was surprised there were other launch day Metroid fans in a mostly rural area.
Green Mamba
Member
Just got 100% and completed the Chozo Memories.
I hear there's another ending for Hard Mode, I'll try that out next.
Big wut to the eleventh memory. Evil Chozo, or something? And mid way through, do the memories suggest that the Chozo made the X or that they accidentally unleashed them? I'm going on the latter, that's kind of what it looked like to me, like they dug too greedily and too deep.
I hear there's another ending for Hard Mode, I'll try that out next.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Pretty sure it was like that in Zero Mission.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Magmoor is a new arrangement? I could swear it sounds exactly the same as Prime's.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
How has the stock situation been with the more recent amiibo? I wasn't able to get the amiibo for this game from the initial shipment. Am I likely to be able to get them within the next few months? I'm in Canada, but I'll import the damn things if I have to. I've wanted a Metroid amiibo since amiibo were first announced. They're like the perfect blend of cute and horrible.
Nah, Samus Returns one is definitely different. Probably my favorite arrangement yet.
When that happened it legit freaked me out, it was completely unexpected :lol. I fucking hope it's sequel bait and that Mercury Steam's already well on their way in developing a Switch Metroid 5. Can you imagine Super X Infested Metroids or something crazy like that?
It's similar, but a different instrumentation. Samus Returns is a bombastic while Metroid Prime is a more brooding and subdued.
Aaronrules380
Member
i doubt x parasites could ever infect Metroids given they were created specifically to destroy x parasites
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Every single samus animation in this game is great. So much attention to detail
When you got evil-ass Chozo in the mix, anything is possible .
.Yeah, I love the way she turns, or how she adapts a new stance once you start firing, a lot of love went into this.
The cutscenes are great too, her expressions and mannerisms are conveyed through motion like the original Prime games, I love that.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Wow, what do you know. You're def right.
That guy was giving me hell until I realized that
you can use the invincibility Aeion ability to bomb all of the slots on the head even while he's electrified
Astral Dog
Member
Yeah, this is a remake of Metroid 2 too much story would have been a waste anyways.
Hot Coldman
Banned
And Torvus Bog is Maridia, but the version in this is definitely new.
It seems to be a good first Metroid experience, but yeah I'm hoping it kills it in sales
The impression I have is
that the Metroid life-cycle is created by Metroids absorbing the X-parasites. I also get the impression that Samus wasn't raised by peaceful Chozo, or at least by one of them, anyway. Also, it saying 2d/10 was pretty neat. I'd also guess that Metroids know that the Chozo created them, thus leading to a different interpretation of why the last Metroid spared Samus in Super. It being attracted to Samus' ship instead of staying by her side was interesting to think about.
Lower Torvus is Red Brinstar, not Maridia
balladofwindfishes
Member
Music spoilers:
Dat red earth remix. Also I'm at the point in Metroid where I begin to feel like a god. It's my favorite part of the game, just need to get power bombs and I have all the items.
That cutscene after
the Diggernaut boss
Hot Coldman
Banned
Ah, right, I always get mixed up because it plays that music when you power bomb the glass tube to enter Maridia right?
GodParticle
Member
I like how the title is so appropriate for the series. Metroid: Samus Returns
Yep. There are a couple rooms in Maridia that have the lower Brinstar theme since they're basically continuous with Brinstar.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Getting the urge to replay that now. Maybe I need a SNES Classic after all, ha.
Lol wow that's right, but I actually just defeated him now, particularly
after realizing you can go into spider ball to get through his vacuum. I facepalmed so damn hard lol.
StormBrute
Member
Everything you are saying about this fight is stuff that I completely overlooked and furthers my opinion that it is an amazing fight. I never thought to use
Lightning Armor to tank the electricity or Phase Drift to slow down the movement of his head in the last part, or the Spider Ball to stick through the vacuum so you can just keep placing bombs with no worry.
Holy shit, I didn't realize that.
Also a really good design.
Seeing him lumber around in the dark in the first encounter is so ominous.
Green Mamba
Member
It sweeps over you as if you weren't there.
Going back to previous Metroid titles now, it's pretty striking how different they feel compared to Samus Returns. The 3DS's tiny size aside, Samus feels so good to control in this game. There's a certain sense of power and finesse that's different from past games, distinct from the power creep you get from the collectibles. Once you get a handle on the controls you can just fuck shit up. My only problem is the while I love parry systems in games and this one is pretty good, it does mess with the momentum of the game a bit. If you parry everything, there's lots of starting and stopping, and if you don't parry, at least in the early game, the enemies' high HP means you can't quite kill them with regular blasts as quickly as you feel you ought to.
Aaronrules380
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If I had one complaint about this game, it's that my hand becomes super sore after extended play, but that's really more on the design and size of the 3DS than anything (though the game does exacerbate it with the heavy use of the triggers)
BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie
Banned
Are there any newcomers to Metroid, or even specifically 2D Metroid, that are really enjoying this game? I've tried fleetingly to get into Fusion and Super in the past, but the genre as a whole has never clicked for me. I intend to play through Super Metroid when my SNES Classic arrives soon but regardless of whether that comes to fruition would this game still come recommended?
For reference I really like Prime and Prime 3, Prime 2 I only played a 1/3rd of a long time ago I should maybe think about that. I also really enjoyed the gameplay at least of That Wii Game That Shall Not Be Named. As far as I can put my finger on, I dislike wandering through the same areas again and again mainly just to get upgrades that just allow for more places to be unlocked to get more upgrades and so on as a basic structure, I'd like to see more payoff in terms of plot in order to keep my interest. I think it speaks volumes as to how good Prime 1 is that I found it near unputdownable despite it having the same Metroidvania structure that has never clicked with me.
What say you GAF? A good entry point to 2D Metroid, for me specifically?
For reference I really like Prime and Prime 3, Prime 2 I only played a 1/3rd of a long time ago I should maybe think about that. I also really enjoyed the gameplay at least of That Wii Game That Shall Not Be Named. As far as I can put my finger on, I dislike wandering through the same areas again and again mainly just to get upgrades that just allow for more places to be unlocked to get more upgrades and so on as a basic structure, I'd like to see more payoff in terms of plot in order to keep my interest. I think it speaks volumes as to how good Prime 1 is that I found it near unputdownable despite it having the same Metroidvania structure that has never clicked with me.
What say you GAF? A good entry point to 2D Metroid, for me specifically?
Aaronrules380
Member
There's still a decent amount of backtracking, but it's mitigated a lot by the inclusion of teleporters. And most backtracking is only for optional powerups (usually missile, super missile, and power bomb upgrades)
Metroid: Zero Mission.
It has all the trappings of a modern 2d Metroid, simpler controls, a more helpful level structure, faster paced...and a lot of the more advanced techniques are really only isolated in specific rooms for more advanced players 9just to get inconsequential upgrades).
And it has a more obvious plot driven narrative than Super Metroid. Also, it's the "first" one. Seems like the best place for you to start for all the right reasons.
But you know, if a game isn't to your suiting, you don't have to play them.
All done!
100%, 10:52:38
Now I understand what the big spoiler thread was for: that 100% bonus is reaaaalllly interesting. ENDING SPOILERS:
And I have to say that FINAL BOSS SPOILERS:
Coming from someone who is an enormous fan of the original Metroid 2, this is a wonderful remake. It, the original, and AM2R are very different games. And I think each of them have moments where they are the best of the bunch. But as a whole, I think Samus Returns is the best telling of this tale.
I'll give some more thoughts later. A very, very good Metroid game: we've been waiting a long time for this.
100%, 10:52:38
Now I understand what the big spoiler thread was for: that 100% bonus is reaaaalllly interesting. ENDING SPOILERS:
I am already way more excited at the prospect of an evil Chozo faction than I ever was of "the Federation are actually bad guys" or Sylux that they keep trying to ram down our throats. Hopefully they will pay off that concept!
And I have to say that FINAL BOSS SPOILERS:
I am so goddamn happy that Prime is totally canonized now with that Meta Ridley fight. And it absolutely is Meta Ridley, he's got cyborg implants and is a great bridge between Prime and Super. And it uses a remix of the Meta Ridley theme, with its additional flair to the normal Ridley theme. Zero Mission was released after Prime and Yamamoto used the standard Ridley theme, but Prime, Prime 3, and Samus Returns now use the Meta theme. Canon, bitches.
Coming from someone who is an enormous fan of the original Metroid 2, this is a wonderful remake. It, the original, and AM2R are very different games. And I think each of them have moments where they are the best of the bunch. But as a whole, I think Samus Returns is the best telling of this tale.
I'll give some more thoughts later. A very, very good Metroid game: we've been waiting a long time for this.
Chance Hale
Member
What's with the elevator sections running at like 2 fps lol