MGSV: Ground Zeroes - Spoilers Thread - #TeamBowie
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what costumes are available?
I don't know about Jamais Vu, but in Deja Vu, You get the pixelated Snake for getting all the questions in the quiz right on normal and you get Cyborg Ninja Snake for getting all the questions in the quiz right on hard. (Cyborg Snake gets super fast dash.
giancarlo123x
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It's actually just Solid Snake in a Grey Fox Costume, isn't it?
Why are you using spoiler tags?
I'm alternating between the OT and the Spoiler thread, so I keep forgetting which thread I'm in lol.
Alkastelca
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And how many unlockable skins are there ?
I hope you can unlock tiger stripe camo from MGS3&PW
Muffdraul
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Any insight into why Chico plugs his earbuds into his own chest when he doesn't have his Walkman? LOL @ a Walkman in 1975, ROFLCOPTER @ earbuds back then! dat krazy kojima yes i du rike it.
Maybe it was explained in PW? (which I could only stomach the first couple hours of...)
Maybe it was explained in PW? (which I could only stomach the first couple hours of...)
Yeah, the walkman, then the earbuds and THEN Snake's "iDroid" being able to play tapes (the same device that shows a freaking holographic map) was very surreal to me.
Only thing it was missing was this:
My guess is it's him listening to his heart beat so he knows he's actually alive or some sappy thing like that.
Graphics Horse
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Peace Walker has Mother Base developing Walkman tech, you can gradually upgrage the walkman to a present day model in the R&D menu.(no joke)
plasmawave
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Guys guys... why can Chico walk around inside the chopper when his ankles are bolted?
Because the medic took the bolts out before big boss brought Paz on board.
plasmawave
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I guess that's plausible... but will he be able to still walk right away?
If snake can get shot 10 times and not die a young Cuban boy can walk immediately after having bolts removed from his ankles
Graphics Horse
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Chicomachines
I've watched again and he doesn't walk around, he's on his knees on a bench most of the time and Boss picks him up at one point.
NotMyRealName
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He doesn't. He moves around on his knees, and then scoots around on the bench. Also, I just noticed Paz's scar is in the shape of a V.
About that.
That only happened to me once out of my 10 hours of so in playtime. I almost never get that spray prompt.
V for vagina.
Palette Swap
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After rewatching last year's GDC TPP trailer and assuming it spoils TPP as much as the GZ reveal spoiled GZ, taking everything at face value :
- TPP starts right after GZ ends.
- Survivors from the crash end up in a British related hospital. There are 3 of them: BB, Kaz and a guy Kaz refers to in his "what about him?" line. I assume Chico is the third.
- BB is saved but sinks in a 9 year long coma.
- when BB wakes up, he finds out he's lost an arm. There might also be this shrapnel sticking out of his head.
- hospital gets attacked, somehow because of BB waking up. Either the attackers were monitoring whether he woke up or BB's presence there was somehow concealed and waking up led to revealing he was alive and where. No idea whether the attackers are XOF or Cypher.
- there's a guy with BB there, Ishmael. He has BB's voice. Either he's a figment of BB's (drugged up) imagination or he's impersonating him (hence the bandages, see the Decoy Octopus theories). Or it's some silly clone plot.
- there's a Mantis like figure among the attackers. As well as a Volgin like silhouette.
- as the hospital gets destroyed, Ocelot comes to rescue BB. The third guy is nowhere to be seen and there's a Nightmare like horse (which supports the Stoned Snake theory).
This all segues into the E3 trailer where Ocelot and BB go to Afghanistan to rescue a severely fucked up Kaz and start another army.
On the third guy: I think the one Kaz refers to is Chico but Ishmael is just an imaginary product of drugs and PTSD.
- TPP starts right after GZ ends.
- Survivors from the crash end up in a British related hospital. There are 3 of them: BB, Kaz and a guy Kaz refers to in his "what about him?" line. I assume Chico is the third.
- BB is saved but sinks in a 9 year long coma.
- when BB wakes up, he finds out he's lost an arm. There might also be this shrapnel sticking out of his head.
- hospital gets attacked, somehow because of BB waking up. Either the attackers were monitoring whether he woke up or BB's presence there was somehow concealed and waking up led to revealing he was alive and where. No idea whether the attackers are XOF or Cypher.
- there's a guy with BB there, Ishmael. He has BB's voice. Either he's a figment of BB's (drugged up) imagination or he's impersonating him (hence the bandages, see the Decoy Octopus theories). Or it's some silly clone plot.
- there's a Mantis like figure among the attackers. As well as a Volgin like silhouette.
- as the hospital gets destroyed, Ocelot comes to rescue BB. The third guy is nowhere to be seen and there's a Nightmare like horse (which supports the Stoned Snake theory).
This all segues into the E3 trailer where Ocelot and BB go to Afghanistan to rescue a severely fucked up Kaz and start another army.
On the third guy: I think the one Kaz refers to is Chico but Ishmael is just an imaginary product of drugs and PTSD.
Graphics Horse
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Crash survivors go to an American hospital (maybe a base in Panama?), he wakes up in a British army hospital in Cyprus.
That's very, very possible. I can't wait to play that part of the game.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Has anybody decoded that data cassette already? I'd like to know so I don't drive myself crazy trying to decode it myself. =_=
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Deleted member 80556
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You know, they never really show the Medic's face. And he does sound kinda similar to Keifer.
There has to be something going on there. Maybe Ocelot and Eva are hiding him from Zero? Similar to MGS4 but IDK.
Palette Swap
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Oh, thanks. That was kind of bothering me from a distance standpoint.
2 hospitals make much more sense.
Yeah, who moved BB and what triggers that assault both seem to be pretty central questions.
Also, Ocelot knows (or learns in time to help) that BB is in Cyprus.
TBH, and I'm sorry for the rampant speculation, I wouldn't be too surprised if in the end we learned Ocelot had set parts of this up to put BB in the right conditions to recreate a more aggressive version of Outer Heaven than MSF. Nudging him along the way and stuff, making him the perfect weapon against Cypher/Zero.
TheFurizzlyBear
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If I'm not mistaken the credits had some sort of person listed for anatomy or something to that effect. I remember seeing it and thinking what a weird person to have on the credits then I thought to that scene and figured Kojima wanted to be at least semi-accurate.
Razgriz-Specter
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To me it seemed like they went out of the way to not show his face for some reason.
Press left/right in the main menu, while selecting the Deja Vu mission. I actually found this out by chance, it's not really intuitive.
Two minor observations that I have made, both have probably been mentioned already, probably a while ago.
1. In Ground Zeroes, in the main menu, there is a guy with his back to Snake, I am unsure if he is the medic but that's not really important. I was wondering what are the possibilities of this guy being the guy who Kaz refers to in the GDC trailer when he says "What about him?" whilst they are in the hospital and Big Boss is slipping into his coma.
2. I'm pretty sure that I have read somewhere that Kojima is unsure if Camp Omega will feature in The Phantom Pain. But then there is this scene from the E3 trailer which surely has to be Camp Omega.
So many questions. So long to wait
1. In Ground Zeroes, in the main menu, there is a guy with his back to Snake, I am unsure if he is the medic but that's not really important. I was wondering what are the possibilities of this guy being the guy who Kaz refers to in the GDC trailer when he says "What about him?" whilst they are in the hospital and Big Boss is slipping into his coma.
2. I'm pretty sure that I have read somewhere that Kojima is unsure if Camp Omega will feature in The Phantom Pain. But then there is this scene from the E3 trailer which surely has to be Camp Omega.
So many questions. So long to wait
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Two minor observations that I have made, both have probably been mentioned already, probably a while ago.
1. In Ground Zeroes, in the main menu, there is a guy with his back to Snake, I am unsure if he is the medic but that's not really important. I was wondering what are the possibilities of this guy being the guy who Kaz refers to in the GDC trailer when he says "What about him?" whilst they are in the hospital and Big Boss is slipping into his coma.
2. I'm pretty sure that I have read somewhere that Kojima is unsure if Camp Omega will feature in The Phantom Pain. But then there is this scene from the E3 trailer which surely has to be Camp Omega.
So many questions. So long to wait
I'm not sure that we need to read into that one too much. I've had times where I went to Mission Select and there was nobody there, and after you complete the Side-Ops where you rescue Kojima, he's sitting there instead.
I'm pretty sure I had someone sat there before I complete the Kojima Side-Op.
Unless I have completely lost the plot, which is possible
Had a long day today!
Thanks for this write-up. The two snakes theory is especially relevant when you consider the missing shrapnel in the hospital scene.
After playing a second time and paying a bit more attention to that scene, there's definitely bleeding. When the medic is pulling, it pours from three or four spots down the sides of her gut. Probably not the right amount of blood, but I think the scene looks fine.
Sure wouldn't be the first time we've seen him do it. Though, I almost think he wouldn't be so forward about making those actions given his reverence for Big Boss. It'll be interesting to see how their relationship unfolds more in TPP.
CambriaRising
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Two minor observations that I have made, both have probably been mentioned already, probably a while ago.
1. In Ground Zeroes, in the main menu, there is a guy with his back to Snake, I am unsure if he is the medic but that's not really important. I was wondering what are the possibilities of this guy being the guy who Kaz refers to in the GDC trailer when he says "What about him?" whilst they are in the hospital and Big Boss is slipping into his coma.
2. I'm pretty sure that I have read somewhere that Kojima is unsure if Camp Omega will feature in The Phantom Pain. But then there is this scene from the E3 trailer which surely has to be Camp Omega.
So many questions. So long to wait
Its possible that this scene is still in the game, just in a different location.
2. I'm pretty sure that I have read somewhere that Kojima is unsure if Camp Omega will feature in The Phantom Pain. But then there is this scene from the E3 trailer which surely has to be Camp Omega.
So many questions. So long to wait
That's 100% Camp Omega, but, maybe it's a scene they just made for the trailer... maybe.
Listening to one of the tapes, Skull Face mentions that he hopes Big Boss "is still a great listener" not sure if that means he was part of a radio support team for Big Boss at one point but it's pretty much confirmed they knew of each other at one point.
Let's discuss the two Snakes thing a little bit more -- I think we all agree that Solid Snake will make some appearance at some point, but probably as a child, or maybe in a flash-forward moment.
As for two Snakes - how would that occur? Obviously Ground Zeroes Snake is Big Boss from MGS3. But when he falls into a coma there's no shrapnel, then there's shrapnel...who would be the identical second Snake, but with shrapnel?
It is strange. And then Snake rescuing Miller in the E3 trailer has 1) the cyborgish prosthetic arm and 2) shrapnel.
I would like to chalk it up as simply an oversight on Kojima's part, but he doesn't overlook details like that.
Isn't that the prisoner to be executed in the main mission? I never saw him get executed in the game since I was able to rescue him.
Well I'm not sure it can be the same guy, since the guy in the trailer gets shot through the heart, and in the game he gets killed during actual gameplay in a totally different spot.
XANDER CAGE
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No, I mean, the doctor straight up says "no bleeding."
Interesting, I didn't see that. Must have been a unique phone call.
"Could bombs fit inside someone's stomach and vagina without killing them outright? It's for a video game I'm writing."
Doctor_Thomas
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Firstly, this game is maybe the best example of pure stealth the series has ever seen. The controls and movement and weapons allow you to shoot your way through the scenario, but you're doing a disservice to yourself, if you don't attempt to do everything as quietly as possible.
Secondly, I felt numb upon finishing Ground Zeroes. I knew what to expect, but when you are watching it and how the whole thing plays out, it's just something else. Mother Base falling, Big Boss catching the MSF solidier as he dies at the helicopter, Big Boss shooting until he runs out of ammo before reluctantly getting on the helicopter and then Paz dying. Absolutely bleak.
I really, really enjoyed it. I still have trouble with Sutherland, it's not bad, it's just nothing special and he speaks so little, which is crazy after the other games.
Secondly, I felt numb upon finishing Ground Zeroes. I knew what to expect, but when you are watching it and how the whole thing plays out, it's just something else. Mother Base falling, Big Boss catching the MSF solidier as he dies at the helicopter, Big Boss shooting until he runs out of ammo before reluctantly getting on the helicopter and then Paz dying. Absolutely bleak.
I really, really enjoyed it. I still have trouble with Sutherland, it's not bad, it's just nothing special and he speaks so little, which is crazy after the other games.