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Microsoft-Activision acquisition verdicts have been postponed pending further investigation by the governments of Australia and New Zealand
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Bernd Lauert
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Wulfer
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I guess Liverpool didn't exist! (Psygnosis) You should turn in your Sony card like now!
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SportsFan581
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A bit of a difference between a console maker buying a game publisher in a sea of similar publishers vs. Arm (a company that openly licenses its designs, of which many are used in government contracts/defense) selling to Nvidia (a company with a history of either not licensing ip at all or being extremely restrictive and profiteering when doing so) in a market that is primarily built on just two technologies (ARM and X86/64). One case is just a lot more important than the other on the world stage.
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IFireflyl
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I have no idea how I missed that one. I fixed my post. Thanks!
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
They are just waiting for daddy UK to decide.
Yoboman
Member
How are you trying to compare buying the rights to LOTR to buying Activision Blizzard?
The Embracer purchase of LOTR rights was estimated at $780 million. Not even in the same ballpark
SportsFan581
Member
The US will probably have 10x more influence than anywhere else, tbh. Whatever concessions (if any) that the FTC and MS agree to, I would expect to see mirrored in many other markets.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sony officially owns Bungie now
The ink is dry on Sony's acquisition of Bungie, the gaming company that created sci-fi hits Halo and Destiny. Both companies announced the news on Twitter
techcrunch.com
July.
Punished Miku
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New Zealand is all hopped up on the Amazon LotR show. They'll calm down in a few weeks.
GHG
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That's wishful thinking.
plasmawave
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You think Sony made the deal with Bungie in few weeks after MS announced their Acti acquisition?
SportsFan581
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Yoboman
Member
And gaming is now a bigger industry than film and music combined. These moves aren't some small potatoes non factor. They are a massive implication on one of the biggest markets in the world, that is already limited in the number of players able to compete
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They announced it after Acti/MS's deal. It's an acquisition done after January, unlike the post I quoted said.
GHG
Member
Try again.
All the information you seek is publically available. The EU are significantly more stringent with their requirements.
Literally a couple of days ago:
European Union blocks merger of US firms in cancer screening sector
The European Union's anti-trust watchdog announced on Tuesday that it is blocking the buyout of cancer-screening company GRAIL by biotech giant Illumina in a rare move by European regulators against two US companies.
If you want to delude yourself into thinking that the FTC approving something means everyone else will then be my guest. Fantasy is free.
SportsFan581
Member
Try again.
All the information you seek is publically available. The EU are significantly more stringent with their requirements.
Literally a couple of days ago:
European Union blocks merger of US firms in cancer screening sector
The European Union's anti-trust watchdog announced on Tuesday that it is blocking the buyout of cancer-screening company GRAIL by biotech giant Illumina in a rare move by European regulators against two US companies.wap.business-standard.com
If you want to delude yourself into thinking that the FTC approving something means everyone else will then be my guest. Fantasy is free.
Who said anything about the EU. I said there would be many markets that follow the US lead, and almost always do. LOL
GHG
Member
Because in reality the only ones that matter are the US, EU, UK and China. Typically if any one of those reject it then the deal is on shaky ground (usually it's toast, but there are still some things that can be done and it can take years for a resolution).
ChuckeRearmed
Member
The longer deal goes, the less chances for Sony to get COD after the contractual obligations expire.
SportsFan581
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Bernd Lauert
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very weird flex indeed.plasmawave
Banned
You do know acquisition takes months/years?
And you're comparing a studio to one of the biggest publisher in the world?
Not to mention Sony is done acquiring Bungie while MS isn't with theirs?
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theclaw135
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Try again.
All the information you seek is publically available. The EU are significantly more stringent with their requirements.
Literally a couple of days ago:
European Union blocks merger of US firms in cancer screening sector
The European Union's anti-trust watchdog announced on Tuesday that it is blocking the buyout of cancer-screening company GRAIL by biotech giant Illumina in a rare move by European regulators against two US companies.
If you want to delude yourself into thinking that the FTC approving something means everyone else will then be my guest. Fantasy is free.
So what. Other countries should not have the authority to block mergers of US firms.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
They even bought Hawkmoon in Destiny! Unforgiveable!
GHG
Member
This was your original statement:
And now you want to say you meant everywhere but the EU? Don't waste my time.
But they do, time and time again. If you sell products overseas then that's how it works. Whether you like it or not the economy is global.
There's an easy way round that though - only do business in the US.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Stay inside the US then
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't know why you're taking it to different tangents.
The user I quoted said there hasn't been a major acquisition since January. Bungie is a fairly major company, their acquisition was *announced* and *closed* after January. I don't know or care about how long they had been having back channel conversations.
plasmawave
Banned
Yeah, Sony's deal with Bungie went through and is done with while MS' isn't.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
They bought Bungie a week or 2 after the Activision deal was on. They wouldn't stop this one so close to the MS acquisition for sure
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Um, no shit. Not saying this is or isn't going to happen but so were nvidia and ARM. That's not what stops a deal going through.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
If this kind of hardball is what you want then ok 50 percent tarriff on all Sony products in the US.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
They are buying sonic next Wednesday.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Read again. Don't think you grasped my point
Thirty7ven
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It’s wishful thinking but maybe it’s a sign of regulators getting fed up with Silicon Valley’s practice of buying the industry when they can’t get to first place by themselves. A regulator who takes time to learn about this industry can’t look at MS’s practices and say “yup this is normal market competition” because it isn’t.
Banjo64
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ZehDon
Member
Where are you pulling this non-sense from? They were clear on literally the day the sale announced that they expect it to close middle of next year. There hasn’t been a single thing yet that indicates there’s a problem. Government agencies dragging their feet so they look busy isn’t a red flag in anyone’s book.
LegendOfKage
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I don't even understand how things were allowed to get this far. There's a massive difference between buying a developer and buying a publisher that controls multiple development studios. Why even have anti-trust laws if you are going to sit on your hands when it comes time to use them?
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
You can't list PUBLISHERS with the same weight as individual developers!
Zenimax alone is/was:
Bethesda
ID
Arkane
Machine Games
Tango Gameworks
Zenimax Online Studios
At the time of its acquisition it had 2300 employees!
By comparison ABK has nearly 10,000 employees.
Ass of Can Whooping
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IFireflyl
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The purpose of my post was that Sony and Microsoft are about even in total acquisitions. Therefore, my post accomplished exactly what I set out to do. I clarified in a later post that even though Sony has a measly three additional acquisitions, Microsoft's cumulative acquisitions were far larger than Sony's.
Menzies
Banned
As much as they'll learn it's as normal as having such market powers as raising prices and still out selling competition?
Flakster99
Member
Some of you want to jump the gun and assume the worst - Microsoft said from the very beginning this may take until the middle of next year to be completed.
You have to anticipate, and I'm 100% sure Microsoft did, that this is a normal part of the process that will take time to iron out the details, perhaps even a court battle or two may be in the cards if a Country denies the purchase. This is a unique time in the industry that's for sure lol.
You have to anticipate, and I'm 100% sure Microsoft did, that this is a normal part of the process that will take time to iron out the details, perhaps even a court battle or two may be in the cards if a Country denies the purchase. This is a unique time in the industry that's for sure lol.
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Comparing Nvidia's ARM acquisition to ATVI kinda shows ones lack of understanding of a regulator's role. Controlling ARM would afford Nvidia disproportionate control over the chip market since many devices only function because of ARM chips. The deal represented a potentially dangerous centralization of the market which is why the major regulators paid close attention.
Regulators are allowing major consolidations in critical sectors like agriculture to go unchecked. Why would they block the comparatively meaningless ATVI acquisition?
Regulators are allowing major consolidations in critical sectors like agriculture to go unchecked. Why would they block the comparatively meaningless ATVI acquisition?
anthony2690
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There goes any hopes off an Activision game Christmas pass drop.
I hope Microsoft give crash team racing an fps boost on the series X though or hell just patch a 60fps mode in, incredible kart racing game!
I hope Microsoft give crash team racing an fps boost on the series X though or hell just patch a 60fps mode in, incredible kart racing game!
Banjo64
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I think the CMA are arguing that owning Activision & CoD, alongside their existing first party/brand recognition and cloud infrastructure, will make them the defacto major player in the future cloud streaming race and will make it borderline impossible for future entrants to make a dent.
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