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[MasterCornholio]

why did sony wait until after the deadline of the appeal to make their show

you can't enter new evidence after the appeal right?

Don't think the two are related to be honest. Sony just tends to announce their dates a bit closer to the event.

 

[Bernoulli]

wasn't one of the arguments that microsoft will increase gamepass price? they just increased it in brazil today

Preço das assinaturas do Game Pass vão aumentar no Brasil

assinaturas do Game Pass vão ficar mais caras no brasil; entenda a história aqui

republicadg-com-br.translate.goog

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

wasn't one of the arguments that microsoft will increase gamepass price? they just increased it in brazil today

Preço das assinaturas do Game Pass vão aumentar no Brasil

assinaturas do Game Pass vão ficar mais caras no brasil; entenda a história aqui

republicadg-com-br.translate.goog

Deal's corpse has not even cooled down, sheesh.

 

[Topher]

wasn't one of the arguments that microsoft will increase gamepass price? they just increased it in brazil today

Preço das assinaturas do Game Pass vão aumentar no Brasil

assinaturas do Game Pass vão ficar mais caras no brasil; entenda a história aqui

republicadg-com-br.translate.goog

*cough*cadekickbacks*cough*

 

[sainraja]

This means nothing since they are contractually obligated to show support for the acquisition. If Activision fails to show support for the acquisition and the acquisition fails, then Activision has to pay money to Microsoft. It is in their best interest to show support for this acquisition regardless of whether they bow out of the deal or go all in.

Yeah but it is easier to show support for something that you want happening...

 

[Thirty7ven]

I edited my comment with more details. I don't know how law works in England. But in the US, the appeal periods typically run from the time of final judgments / orders. And the notice of order invited feedback until June 19th. Reuters may have insight not apparent in those documents I skimmed, but if they skipped a step (notice of final order period) they may have gotten it wrong, with the 30 days running from the date of the final order that issues after June 19th.

I am completely against the deal, but those docs seem pretty clear.

The final order is final I think, MS have to appeal now not after.

Microsoft lodges appeal against block on $75bn Call of Duty deal

A formal appeal will be filed with the Competition Appeal Tribunal by Microsoft and Activision Blizzard by the end of Wednesday, Sky News understands.

news.sky.com

“
Breaking

A formal appeal will be filed with the Competition Appeal Tribunal by Microsoft and Activision Blizzard by the end of Wednesday, Sky News understands.”​

 

[DeepEnigma]

wasn't one of the arguments that microsoft will increase gamepass price? they just increased it in brazil today

Preço das assinaturas do Game Pass vão aumentar no Brasil

assinaturas do Game Pass vão ficar mais caras no brasil; entenda a história aqui

republicadg-com-br.translate.goog

 

[Thirty7ven]

 

[Bernoulli]

huge PR tweets incoming about how they want competition, that UK is closed for business and that cybersecurity is at risk

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Well, at least they've tried.

 

[PaintTinJr]

huge PR tweets incoming about how they want competition, that UK is closed for business and that cybersecurity is at risk

Seems odd we don't have an official one. Even this from Sky News was an article talking about later, but seemingly wasn't posted until after the deadline had past (at 17:18)

Microsoft lodges appeal against block on $75bn Call of Duty deal

A formal appeal will be filed with the Competition Appeal Tribunal by Microsoft and Activision Blizzard by the end of Wednesday, Sky News understands.

news.sky.com

I've got a feeling they've noped out and they just want to get to the end of the day's trading before the news officially breaks. Tomorrow Sony's shares will be up because of the showcase, and in Microsoft and Activision's case it would be a quintessential "Good day to bury bad news" as a New Labour person famously coined.

 

[X-Wing]

Seems odd we don't have an official one. Even this from Sky News was an article talking about later, but seemingly wasn't posted until after the deadline had past (at 17:18)

Microsoft lodges appeal against block on $75bn Call of Duty deal

A formal appeal will be filed with the Competition Appeal Tribunal by Microsoft and Activision Blizzard by the end of Wednesday, Sky News understands.

news.sky.com

I've got a feeling they've noped out and they just want to get to the end of the day's trading before the news officially breaks. Tomorrow Sony's shares will be up because of the showcase, and in Microsoft and Activision's case it would be a quintessential "Good day to bury bad news" as a New Labour person famously coined.

They have nothing to lose by appealing. They probably just learned that provocative statements won’t help their case and are keeping it low profile.

 

[Bernoulli]

Seems odd we don't have an official one. Even this from Sky News was an article talking about later, but seemingly wasn't posted until after the deadline had past (at 17:18)

Microsoft lodges appeal against block on $75bn Call of Duty deal

A formal appeal will be filed with the Competition Appeal Tribunal by Microsoft and Activision Blizzard by the end of Wednesday, Sky News understands.

news.sky.com

I've got a feeling they've noped out and they just want to get to the end of the day's trading before the news officially breaks. Tomorrow Sony's shares will be up because of the showcase, and in Microsoft and Activision's case it would be a quintessential "Good day to bury bad news" as a New Labour person famously coined.

They have nothing to lose by appealing. They probably just learned that provocative statements won’t help their case and are keeping it low profile.

they lose time and they can't make other big aquisitions
and defying regulators will result in more agressive regulators for their future buys

 

[MasterCornholio]

Well I'm sure we will hear something directly from Microsoft soon.

Edit: Like an official press release or something on twitter.

Microsoft, which declined to comment further on Wednesday afternoon, and Activision are expected to make further statements after the appeal is formally filed.

I guess we are just waiting then.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

they lose time and they can't make other big aquisitions
and defying regulators will result in more agressive regulators for their future buys

The deal will be dead before the appeal would even be reviewed by CAT. Both companies are fulfilling the 'trying our hard' part of the contract.

 

[Pelta88]

"Good day to bury bad news" as a New Labour person famously coined.

Damn that took me back lol

 

[Elios83]

Impossible, they were supposed to go ahead with the deal anyway, no appeal required

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

They have nothing to lose by appealing. They probably just learned that provocative statements won’t help their case and are keeping it low profile.

Xbox have plenty to lose. They could be focusing on righting the ship, but right now they wouldn't be and is delaying it further.

It's like trying to save a failed marriage, just get over it so you can move on.

 

[X-Wing]

Xbox have plenty to lose. They could be focusing on righting the ship, but right now they wouldn't be and is delaying it further.

It's like trying to save a failed marriage, just get over it so you can move on.

I mean... Appealing doesn't stop them from making games... They are already extremely late though and indeed acquiring Activision would be an easy fix for that.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

I mean... Appealing doesn't stop them from making games... They are already extremely late though and indeed acquiring Activision would be an easy fix for that.

That is where you are wrong. At this point we have enough info to know what is going on, why the games were struggling to be made. it isn't that the studios are bad, it is that Xbox is forced to fire and rehire staff every year and a half on contracts and with mostly no full time employees. This is not Xbox decision but Microsoft HR policy. It saves money from employee benefits but destroys game studios and make their production die on the vine.

Activision would not survive any better.

 

[Pelta88]

But I thought Microsoft didn't need the CMA and were going directly to Rishi Sunak and Hulk Hogan to wave it through?

 

[X-Wing]

That is where you are wrong. At this point we have enough info to know what is going on, why the games were struggling to be made. it isn't that the studios are bad, it is that Xbox is forced to fire and rehire staff every year and a half on contracts and with mostly no full time employees. This is not Xbox decision but Microsoft HR policy. It saves money from employee benefits but destroys game studios and make their production die on the vine.

Activision would not survive any better.

I imagine you have a point but I must admit you are failing to make it come across.
Appealing or not will have zero impact on that, that is how Microsoft operates and Xbox is Microsoft.
Activision may have to operate in the same way in the future but right now, if the deal was to pass, Microsoft would secure something that they lack - content. That is their entire point.

 

[DeepEnigma]

But I thought Microsoft didn't need the CMA and were going directly to Rishi Sunak and Hulk Hogan to wave it through?

"Let my acquisition go, brother!"

 

[Bernoulli]

• Firm files anticipated tribunal appeal against CMA decision
• The appeal process could take as long as nine months

Microsoft Appeals UK Decision to Block Activision Mega Deal

Microsoft Corp. formally filed its appeal against the UK antitrust watchdog’s decision to block its $69 billion Activision Blizzard Inc. deal.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[DeepEnigma]

• Firm files anticipated tribunal appeal against CMA decision
• The appeal process could take as long as nine months

Microsoft Appeals UK Decision to Block Activision Mega Deal

Microsoft Corp. formally filed its appeal against the UK antitrust watchdog’s decision to block its $69 billion Activision Blizzard Inc. deal.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[X-Wing]

• Firm files anticipated tribunal appeal against CMA decision
• The appeal process could take as long as nine months

Microsoft Appeals UK Decision to Block Activision Mega Deal

Microsoft Corp. formally filed its appeal against the UK antitrust watchdog’s decision to block its $69 billion Activision Blizzard Inc. deal.

www.bloomberg.com

Paywall...

 

[Ar¢tos]

I imagine you have a point but I must admit you are failing to make it come across.
Appealing or not will have zero impact on that, that is how Microsoft operates and Xbox is Microsoft.
Activision may have to operate in the same way in the future but right now, if the deal was to pass, Microsoft would secure something that they lack - content. That is their entire point.

Appealing will have impact elsewhere. By appealing MS continues to be blocked from doing acquisitions until the new CMA result (if the CAT does send it back to the CMA). That can take a full year.

 

[Elios83]

But I thought Microsoft didn't need the CMA and were going directly to Rishi Sunak and Hulk Hogan to wave it through?

I'm shocked as well Florian stated that either the decision would be reversed immediatly with no appeal thanks to Microsoft ordering the PM to order so, or that reversing the decision was pointless because Microsoft would just leave the UK or keep Activision as a different entity just in the UK.

Instead it seems they had to appeal like every company not above a law and that there is no way to end this legally anytime soon and in July they will have to decide what to do.
Shocking development.

 

[Bernoulli]

I'm shocked as well Florian stated that either the decision would be reversed immediatly with no appeal thanks to Microsoft ordering the PM to order so, or that reversing the decision was pointless because Microsoft would just leave the UK or keep Activision as a different entity just in the UK.

Instead it seems they had to appeal like every company not above a law and that there is no way to end this legally anytime soon and in July they will have to decide what to do.
Shocking development.

but the pressure is destroying the CMA!

 

[MasterCornholio]

What's the PR for the appeal looking like?

 

[Dick Jones]

Sage's truest tweet. All the positive reaction from gamers in his neck of the woods are going nuts. If anyone is in the same neighbourhood as Sage, they would be nuts

 

[Bernoulli]

What's the PR for the appeal looking like?

Lulu is getting ready after the market is closed

 

[PaintTinJr]

The deal will be dead before the appeal would even be reviewed by CAT. Both companies are fulfilling the 'trying our hard' part of the contract.

I think there might be a few things in play.

Interest on $3b for an extra month is clearly good for Microsoft, but at the expense of the entire company being prostrate for making moves, and it means ATVI remain prostrate too which probably isn't good for Microsoft's exit relationship with ATVI, when they are fighting competitively in the US/UK with PlayStation on CoD, but nowhere close in the rest of the world, and keeping ATVI prostrate for no chance of success helps PlayStation strength their ties with CoD come July's exit.

 

[Pelta88]

"Let my acquisition go, brother!"

Breaking: Hulk Hogan spotted in the CMA offices

I'm shocked as well Florian stated that either the decision would be reversed immediatly with no appeal thanks to Microsoft ordering the PM to order so, or that reversing the decision was pointless because Microsoft would just leave the UK or keep Activision as a different entity just in the UK.

Instead it seems they had to appeal like every company not above a law and that there is no way to end this legally anytime soon and in July they will have to decide what to do.
Shocking development.

The crazy thing is that none of what you said is jest. He said all of that in one way or another since the deal got blocked.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Appealing will have impact elsewhere. By appealing MS continues to be blocked from doing acquisitions until the new CMA result (if the CAT does send it back to the CMA). That can take a full year.

And it also prevents Activision from doing any marketing deals as well. Which then may come down to investor concern come this July on future titles not already under contract.

 

[Bernoulli]

they found the CAT account

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sage's truest tweet. All the positive reaction from gamers in his neck of the woods are going nuts. If anyone is in the same neighbourhood as Sage, they would be nuts

His neck of the woods would be up his ass to an anus choker.

 

[PaintTinJr]

Paywall...

MSN

www.msn.com

Reuters have reported the official statement confirmation from Microsoft, but the article is so light I could only get it through the MSN source, I couldn't find a Reuters original.

 

[MasterCornholio]

they found the CAT account

CATs response.

 

[GHG]

they found the CAT account

These people are so mentally broken it's hilarious.

 

[Thirty7ven]

MSN

www.msn.com

Reuters have reported the official statement confirmation from Microsoft, but the article is so light I could only get it through the MSN source, I couldn't find a Reuters original.

We won’t know the contents of the appeal until CAT makes a decision I think?

Either way MS is probably already talking with ABK about what to do because there’s no way they get approval before the contract times out.

 

[gothmog]

I have a feeling this appeals process will do more permanent damage to Xbox than anything else any competitor could do. I've seen whole companies lose their whole way focusing on something other than their business.

 

[Astray]

We need a new poll in the thread. This one is outdated now that all 4 major regulators have issued their verdicts.

 

[MasterCornholio]

We need a new poll in the thread. This one is outdated now that all 4 major regulators have issued their verdicts.

I'd say a whole new thread that just focuses on the FTC and CMA side of the deal.

 

[DJ12]

We won’t know the contents of the appeal until CAT makes a decision I think?

Either way MS is probably already talking with ABK about what to do because there’s no way they get approval before the contract times out.

Microsoft appeals UK veto of Activision Blizzard takeover

The US tech giant is inching closer to consummating the deal despite major regulatory hurdles.

www.bbc.co.uk

Why does their press release sound exactly like the drivel their shills have been coming out with..... oh yeah rofl

Anyway, they mention nothing that meets any of the criteria ie the decision being irrational or any of the others, just they don't like the result and other people believe their bullshit, so I guess this is merely a box ticking exercise and will be denied if Activision don't pull the plug in July.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Once Microsoft acquires Activision Blizzard within a few months there's going to be loads of upset people.

I don't think it will happen in the next few months especially after Microsofts announcement.

 

[Kilau]

Microsoft appeals UK veto of Activision Blizzard takeover

The US tech giant is inching closer to consummating the deal despite major regulatory hurdles.

www.bbc.co.uk

Why does their press release sound exactly like the drivel their shills have been coming out with..... oh yeah rofl

Anyway, they mention nothing that meets any of the criteria ie the decision being irrational or any of the others, just they don't like the result and other people believe their bullshit, so I guess this is merely a box ticking exercise and will be denied if Activision don't pull the plug in July.

I love how the approval from Ukraine is highlighted, like they don’t have bigger shit to worry about lol.

I do wonder if none of these other countries had any concerns or just were worried about MS isolating them or knew their approval wasn’t really necessary so just rubber stamped it.

 

[sainraja]

Once Microsoft acquires Activision Blizzard within a few months there's going to be loads of upset people.

^^ Is that you right now?
Until, of course, what you claim happens to pass, if it happens to pass.

 

[Solidus_T]

huge PR tweets incoming about how they want competition, that UK is closed for business and that cybersecurity is at risk

I have a feeling that the threats they made against the UK won't help with the appeal, not that it was likely to go through in the first place...

 

[feynoob]

Ban claimed new souls. Folks, never go ham. Stay safe.