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[Artistic]

Best of luck to Microsoft.

 

[tmlDan]

How do you know Sony didn't negotiate a no xbox version of the Spiderman IP? We only found this out about Indiana Jones because fo the trial.

Because Microsoft was offered the deal first, so they seemed to want an exclusive deal. Not sure why, but maybe because they wanted to be heavily involved. if you recall Marvel were heavily involved in the marketing of the first game

 

[Darsxx82]

This is gonna be my last response because your sentences barely make sense.

When these deals are made there is a monetary split in revenue based on sales, Disney will either license out the IP or, in this case since they proposed it to be on all platforms, there is likely a revenue split as well.

In order to change that, MS has to go back and offer some sort of benefit, the monetary proposal could mean:

An increase in production value/marketing put out by MS and a side of a certain amount of money to bridge the gap for it not being on Sony PS. The production/marketing dollars, as you seem to like making up, will not match the monetary compensation of sales on PS, the amount is too big if an IP like Indiana Jones makes a great game that sells 10 mill. Especially if you consider the game is gonna be on GP and PC where sales are eaten up by GP.

The only possible way they do this is giving them a lump sum, there is no other logical reason.

Yes, there are others, another thing is that you only want to see one...

 

[Dick Jones]

How do you know Sony didn't negotiate a no xbox version of the Spiderman IP? We only found this out about Indiana Jones because fo the trial.

Because Marvel went to Xbox for a first party exclusive game and Xbox said no. Sony got the same offer as sloppy seconds. It's a fact.

 

[Banjo64]

When do we get to hear about gamespot’s fanboy reviewers?

 

[FritzJ92]

Because Marvel went to Xbox for a first party exclusive game and Xbox said no. Sony got the same offer as sloppy seconds. It's a fact.

I did forget that part of the deal. Thanks.

 

[Dick Jones]

Because Microsoft was offered the deal first, so they seemed to want an exclusive deal. Not sure why, but maybe because they wanted to be heavily involved. if you recall Marvel were heavily involved in the marketing of the first game

They wanted better quality of Marvel IP games and expected first party would be better quality

 

[mckmas8808]

Honestly, 2028 feels too soon considering it's already 2023 and we've JUST started leaving the cross-gen window in some prominent releases.

That's a 8-year generation length! And you say too soon?!

 

[adamsapple]

That's a 8-year generation length! And you say too soon?!

It's 3 years in and the generation has barely started tho.

 

[DJ12]

Alright I'm gonna bow out for the rest of the show, will check the tweets for summaries.

Hope Aaron has approved this holiday.

 

[Thirty7ven]

It's 3 years in and the generation has barely started tho.

For you.

 

[devilNprada]

How do you know Sony didn't negotiate a no xbox version of the Spiderman IP? We only found this out about Indiana Jones because fo the trial.

Doesn't Sony own the digital rights?

 

[Sleepwalker]

It's 3 years in and the generation has barely started tho.

Great start too with games already starting to render at 720p. The series S will be rendering 360p by 2028 lol.

 

[Darsxx82]

That's a 8-year generation length! And you say too soon?!

The CMA documents noted that both Sony and MS had plans to launch the next generation in 2028. What I believe is that PS5 and Xseries will coexist with PS6 and XBOX NEXT for a long time (even longer than PS4 does now).

 

[Dick Jones]

Doesn't Sony own the digital rights?

Movie rights only to Spider-Man IP

 

[DeepEnigma]

because the game didn’t exist from a publisher they bought out

And Marvel was shopping around exclusivity for it and allegedly approached MS first.

 

[adamsapple]

For you

Thanks, Bane.

 

[Pelta88]

How do you know Sony didn't negotiate a no xbox version of the Spiderman IP? We only found this out about Indiana Jones because fo the trial.

You're talking about the licence sony has owned since 1998?

Or something else?

 

[Topher]

This has been an informative day, I think.

 

[devilNprada]

Movie rights only to Spider-Man IP

This came up before has it ever been established that their licensing rights only included film!

 

[Astray]

This has been an informative day, I think.

Very comedic too in a lot of ways.

Let's see if the writers can outdo themselves during the remaining 4 days.

 

[Dick Jones]

This came up before has it ever been established that their licensing rights only included film!

Why would Sony negotiate with Marvel for the Spider-Man IP to make Insomniac's Spider-Man?

 

[DeepEnigma]

This has been an informative day, I think.

All one big creative choice™, a thought experiment™ if you will.

 

[Helghan]

Hahaha, 1000 pages of discussion about crazy COD exclusivity theories wiped out with a single email from Jim Ryan

 

[FUBARx89]

You're talking about the licence sony has owned since 1998?

Or something else?

Only the movie rights.

Hence why Acti made all them Spidey games, not Sony.

 

[feynoob]

$$$$ rules at the end of the day.
Marvel could have refused Sony option for making spiderman exclusive, same for Disney with Indiana Jones.

 

[Topher]

Hahaha, 1000 pages of discussion about crazy COD exclusivity theories wiped out with a single email from Jim Ryan

Really? That's what you got out of today?

 

[XesqueVara]

Why would Sony negotiate with Marvel for the Spider-Man IP to make Insomniac's Spider-Man?

Sony don't have the games rights for Spider-man, just the movie ones.

 

[Mr Moose]

Hahaha, 1000 pages of discussion about crazy COD exclusivity theories wiped out with a single email from Jim Ryan

 

[MasterCornholio]

$$$$ rules at the end of the day.
Marvel could have refused Sony option for making spiderman exclusive, same for Disney with Indiana Jones.

Why would they go go to Sony to make Spider-Man for Xbox?

 

[tmlDan]

Hahaha, 1000 pages of discussion about crazy COD exclusivity theories wiped out with a single email from Jim Ryan

education system failed you, stop using twitter for you pages as news

 

[GHG]

Hahaha, 1000 pages of discussion about crazy COD exclusivity theories wiped out with a single email from Jim Ryan

The fact that this is your takeaway reflects very poorly on you.

But nothing else was expected.

 

[Dick Jones]

$$$$ rules at the end of the day.
Marvel could have refused Sony option for making spiderman exclusive, same for Disney with Indiana Jones.

Marvel offered it as an exclusive to Sony, like they did Xbox before. Marvel would have gone to a third party if they wanted multiplatform.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Really? That's what you got out of today?

I almost feel sorry for the intellectually stunted.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Today was great to at least wash away all the lies, fud and narratives. Should be bannable to even try and push the bs that has been spread for the last three years or more.

 

[Dick Jones]

Sony don't have the games rights for Spider-man, just the movie ones.

That's my point to the reply.

 

[feynoob]

Marvel offered it as an exclusive to Sony, like they did Xbox before. Marvel would have gone to a third party if they wanted multiplatform.

And Disney could have refused MS offer for exclusivity.

These are companies who care about $$$.

 

[graywolf323]

Today was great to at least wash away all the lies, fud and narratives. Should be bannable to even try and push the bs that has been spread for the last three years or more.

given how no one has been banned yet today despite the fact we have several users still spreading FUD that seems unlikely

 

[Three]

I didn't get that. What was said?

Sorry man, I was trying to timestamp it for you but the youtube stream I was watching wasn't a recorded stream and the other spanish stream which was recorded had its audio cut out so it's just the guy asking people to wait; but it was basically what Banjo and Deepenigma said.

 

[Topher]

Hahaha, 1000 pages of discussion about crazy COD exclusivity theories wiped out with a single email from Jim Ryan

 

[devilNprada]

Why would Sony negotiate with Marvel for the Spider-Man IP to make Insomniac's Spider-Man?

Why would Disney have to buy back the rights to their streaming service?
I am not giving you are hard time here.. please just show me where it has been established that Sony did not own those rights?

 

[mckmas8808]

The CMA documents noted that both Sony and MS had plans to launch the next generation in 2028. What I believe is that PS5 and Xseries will coexist with PS6 and XBOX NEXT for a long time (even longer than PS4 does now).

If this is the case, then I'm 99.9% sure Sony will release a PS5 Pro in a couple of years.

 

[feynoob]

Why would they go go to Sony to make Spider-Man for Xbox?

They own the IP. They can decide what they want with.
MLB forced Sony to make Xbox version.

 

[XesqueVara]

Why would they go go to Sony to make Spider-Man for Xbox?

They won't lol, seems Disney is completely fine with exclusivity, they just want put their IPs on Gaming again.

 

[Varteras]

Really? That's what you got out of today?

What wouldn't I give for a scoring system that points you for intellect, integrity, or entertainment value. If you stay below a threshold for too long, auto-banned.

 

[Dick Jones]

And Disney could have refused MS offer for exclusivity.

These are companies who care about $$$.

Disney didn't go to Bethesda, it was the other way round. Bethesda offered multiplatform.

The two deals are not the same. Marvel offered exclusivity to Sony, Bethesda offered multiplatform

 

[Banjo64]

I didn't get that. What was said?

Sarah Bond was being questioned and as part of the questioning she was asked about AAA games and what constitutes an AAA game.

Following this she was asked if smaller scale games could still thrive, alongside questions about M$'s Game Pass and First Party portfolio (simple question, just about the breadth of content).

She then was asked to give some examples of smaller games thriving, which is where she said Epic were a small indie dev before Fortnite released. She listed it alongside games such as Vampire Survivors.

Nothing scandalous. Just a hilarious insight in to her knowledge considering Gears of War and Unreal Engine.

 

[mckmas8808]

And Disney could have refused MS offer for exclusivity.

These are companies who care about $$$.

But Sony didn't pay money to make Spiderman exclusive. So what are you saying?

 

[feynoob]

Disney didn't go to Bethesda, it was the other way round. Bethesda offered multiplatform.

The two deals are not the same. Marvel offered exclusivity to Sony, Bethesda offered multiplatform

It doesn't matter who went to who.
What matters is both companies own the IPs and they have the final decision.
Disney could have simply said no, make the game multiplatform. They didn't.

 

[Sleepwalker]