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Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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DeepEnigma

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Since this is just idiots shouting at other idiots...

To be clear what happened here is... Reuters wanted clicks, reposted an old article, then all the "I have insider information, I heard that too" Twitter game Journos came out the woodwork and now everyone is arguing over literally nothing with 0 basis?

Is that correct?
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gothmog

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Just let the dummies work themselves into a frenzy again. The eventual meltdown fireworks will be epic.

Most rational people have realized there's a mix of corruption and idealism around this process. So it could really go in any direction and you should set your expectations accordingly.
 
Just let the dummies work themselves into a frenzy again. The eventual meltdown fireworks will be epic.

Most rational people have realized there's a mix of corruption and idealism around this process. So it could really go in any direction and you should set your expectations accordingly.

Pretty much. There's bound to be more meltdowns no matter which way this goes. Let the idiots ban themselves is what I always say.
 

Nydius

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I think the EU has a different approach though. They will look at the here and now and probably pass the deal and when Microsoft establishes itself as a monopoly they will just fine them.

Perhaps but that would be an awfully short-sighted approach. The adage of “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure” is apt here. Once there is a monopoly, if one were to occur, it would take several years of litigation to break apart and a simple fine to a $2T valued company is a slap on the wrist. The monopoly will still exist, competition will still be harmed, but golly gee, the EU made Microsoft cough up some money! Hooray!

Better to take the CMA and FTC’s longer view and prevent a potential monopoly from happening in the first place.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Wow putting out a new article sourcing an article from March 3rd? In May 10th? That’s good stuff.

I don't think they 'sourced' it other than linking it once in the new article. It's just a nebulous 'people familiar have said'.

How confident are you in this deal going through?

As confident as you are in your meme-game (y)
 
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The guy is just ranting nonsense. There are typos and grammatical errors in MS' filings to the CMA/FTC even and those are big firms representing them. Some 6 individuals hiring a lawyer and he's bent out of shape about somebody typing a word incorrectly on a keyboard.

I also found this funny from him in hindsight to what he's saying now





Just in time when Amazon released their version of Luna cloud gaming service in the UK about 1 month ago.
 
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Thirty7ven

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I don't think they 'sourced' it other than linking it once in the new article. It's just a nebulous 'people familiar have said'.



As confident as you are in your meme-game (y)

Uh…

“The EU antitrust enforcer is expected to clear the acquisition(…)”

They literally hyperlink their source through the word clear, which is what backs up the headline. Nebulous? It’s right there… you just have to click it.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Uh…

“The EU antitrust enforcer is expected to clear the acquisition(…)”

They literally hyperlink their source through the word clear, which is what backs up the headline. Nebulous? It’s right there… you just have to click it.

Right, I said hyperlinked the same article, but why would they just rehash a 2 month old article if it wasn't corroborated with new info? In this case they have a release estimate.
 

Elios83

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It was 100% intentional. It created roughly 2m shares worth of exit liquidity.

We'll find out next week or by May 22nd how reliable the Reuters sources are.
Certainly it's a bit weird that their sources seemed already certain since early March that EU was going to approve while in the meantime they delayed their decision twice.

But EU approving with remedies is an absolutely possible outcome. It won't matter a lot at this point anyway. The big question is who is willing to play the waiting game for years in the appeals limbo with CMA and FTC.
 
Why would either Microsoft or Activision want this dragged out for another year? They must think they actually have a chance of getting it through. It seems so unlikely now with 2 of the big regulators blocking the deal. Stupid EU dragging it out when they could just end it for good. Have some balls instead of bending over for Microsoft.
 
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DeepEnigma

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Why would either Microsoft or Activision want this dragged out for another year? They must think they actually have a chance of getting it through. It seems so unlikely now with 2 of the big regulators blocking the deal. Stupid EU dragging it out when they could just end it for good. Have some balls instead of bending over for Microsoft.
Dragging it out would potentially cause issues with renewing marketing contracts or making new ones for new games. A scorched earth approach, but one where Activision shareholders might not like.
 

graywolf323

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“They can have valid reasons to conclude differently than each other UNLESS they block it which I don’t like.” 🙄

the fact Microsoft is paying people to put out messages like this is just sad… if anything that might be the worst thing to come out of this whole mess to me is Microsoft showing their true colors and all of these olympic level mental gymnastics we’re seeing from their mouthpieces on social media
 

gothmog

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“They can have valid reasons to conclude differently than each other UNLESS they block it which I don’t like.” 🙄

the fact Microsoft is paying people to put out messages like this is just sad… if anything that might be the worst thing to come out of this whole mess to me is Microsoft showing their true colors and all of these olympic level mental gymnastics we’re seeing from their mouthpieces on social media
I'd argue that almost 100% of their issues and self owns were created by their mouthpieces not being reined in.
 
Microsoft now has a decent case. Amazon has just released their version of Cloud Gaming in the UK like a month ago. All Amazon Prime members in the UK can now play Fortnite and other games via Luna cloud. There's more Prime members than Xbox Game Ultimate members in the UK.

That's the CMA logic.
 

feynoob

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“They can have valid reasons to conclude differently than each other UNLESS they block it which I don’t like.” 🙄

the fact Microsoft is paying people to put out messages like this is just sad… if anything that might be the worst thing to come out of this whole mess to me is Microsoft showing their true colors and all of these olympic level mental gymnastics we’re seeing from their mouthpieces on social media
MS needed to be quiet about this.
Their heil Mary cloud gaming parade ended their chance of completing this deal.

It's like that runner who celebrated before crossing the end line.
 

Elios83

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Why would either Microsoft or Activision want this dragged out for another year? They must think they actually have a chance of getting it through. It seems so unlikely now with 2 of the big regulators blocking the deal. Stupid EU dragging it out when they could just end it for good. Have some balls instead of bending over for Microsoft.

You shouldn't consider what Microsoft and Activision are doing and saying right now as fully representative of their true intentions.
Those will only become more apparent when their contract is over in July. It's only then that things could get ugly and show their true face.

Now there's a lot of posturing on the outside. They're basically taking time trying not to close their options and there are also 3 billions at stake over the exit strategy, who goes in panic first loses the money.

EU's decision at this point has just an effect on the motivation to go through the ordeal.
 
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feynoob

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It's effectively blocked for now so I haven't really been paying attention in here. And when I do it's typically amplifying Twitter morons that should be ignored rather than reposted.
It's not 100% blocked, until it is.
EU needs to make sure of that, otherwise it will give MS a fighting chance with CMA and ftc.
 

gothmog

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It's not 100% blocked, until it is.
EU needs to make sure of that, otherwise it will give MS a fighting chance with CMA and ftc.
It's blocked. They literally cannot close the deal as it stands right now because of the CMA block. Anything to change that needs to go through either appeals or an update of the deal. So it is effectively blocked like I said.
 

Ogbert

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It's blocked. They literally cannot close the deal as it stands right now because of the CMA block. Anything to change that needs to go through either appeals or an update of the deal. So it is effectively blocked like I said.
Exactly.

They will update / clarify the terms of the acquisition. It often takes 3/4 years for this sort of deal. If not longer.

When regulators *are* powerful is when their decisions are retrospective and they can levy punitive fines.
 

feynoob

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It's blocked. They literally cannot close the deal as it stands right now because of the CMA block. Anything to change that needs to go through either appeals or an update of the deal. So it is effectively blocked like I said.
MS can't close it anyway without their approval, as they need all 4 major regulators signatures.

We are talking about the chance of approval from those that denied it, if EU approves it.
 

DeepEnigma

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Microsoft now has a decent case. Amazon has just released their version of Cloud Gaming in the UK like a month ago. All Amazon Prime members in the UK can now play Fortnite and other games via Luna cloud. There's more Prime members than Xbox Game Ultimate members in the UK.

That's the CMA logic.
Fortnite was never in the equasion since they put that game on anything and evrything. Controlling CoD and a wealth of storied IPs from the largest gaming publisher, however...
 

feynoob

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Fortnite was never in the equasion since they put that game on anything and evrything. Controlling CoD and a wealth of storied IPs from the largest gaming publisher, however...
The real question that people need to ask, is how many IPs will MS own, if they close this deal?

That is the thing CMA is using. It's not just Activision blizzard. But also MS content and gamepass content is included, which is giving them major advantage.

Wish people can see this from outside perspective.
 
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