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[DJ12]

All joking aside, I hope our resident market experts got out in time.

Ouch

 

[Knightime_X]

Cool now you can just use clouds to prevent acquisitions

 

[PSX]

 

[Spitfire098]

Question: Did anyone agree with the reasons CMA provided for blocking it? I recognise my own bias so was wondering if I find their arguement laughable because I wanted it to go through.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

When is Fat Frog coming back? Surely this is a huge validation for him. Streaming has won the day.

 

[Roufianos]

Pathetic rationale, cloud gaming hasn't even proven to be a viable market, and should MS really suffer for being the one who's invested most in it.

Not sure I trust MS with the studios they have, let alone Activision, but still a dumb rationalisation.

 

[DenchDeckard]

The night before... An XBOX podcast was celebrating the win they convinced themselves was coming the next day. They were even planning on music to put on their timeline to, and i quote, "Piss off Ponies."




What a difference a day makes.

This is what I am here for. Fuck those man babies!

 

[DJ12]

Cool now you can just use clouds to prevent acquisitions

The cloud can do a lot of things, at one point it was rumor to add a second GPU in a console.

 

[Saber]

I think I had enough fun poking Microsoft.

They should move on and focus on what’s next for them. Surely, they have a plan B if ever the deal doesn’t fall through. I hope they didn’t put all their eggs on the ABK basket.

Agree. Like people are tired of saying, just use that money and invest on their own game studios. I would also add to them to stop shitposting on twitter, they waste too much time opening their mouths on twitter.

 

[MarkMe2525]

The CMA literally said they don't think they would be able to port COD at a "similar level of quality compared to the offering on PS5 and Xbox" to Nintendo. They are fully aware they can make a shitty port and throw it on the switch lol.

Weird scenario where one company is legally penalized for another companies product lacking certain functionality.

The cloud can do a lot of things, at one point it was rumor to add a second GPU in a console.

You seem to be confused, the second GPU was in the power brick.

 

[DJ12]

Weird scenario where one company is legally penalized for another companies product lacking certain functionality.

MS invited Nintendo into the argument.

 

[PSX]

Too early celebration

 

[Fabieter]

Weird scenario where one company is legally penalized for another companies product lacking certain functionality.

You seem to be confused, the second GPU was in the power brick.

If they promises something that's not possible?

 

[dem]

If they promises something that's not possible?

If Fortnite runs on switch... im sure they could cobble some terrible warzone port together.

 

[DJ12]

UK innovates in technology in ways MS can only dream of.

Unless innovation is where someone else comes up with an idea and you either rip it off and force them out of business, or just buy the other company.

 

[Fabieter]

If Fortnite runs on switch... im sure they could cobble some terrible warzone port together.

They basically promised yearly releases with feature parity. That wasn't gonna happen on switch 1 and I believe avb would try to bring it to switch 2 without ms.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If Fortnite runs on switch... im sure they could cobble some terrible warzone port together.

That's the thing. The CMA specifically outlined, "in the same quality." They knew they could slap together a shitty ass port, which shows they have a greater understanding of the industry than given credit for by some.

 

[sainraja]

...Another reason was because of the internet and Twitter drama, the memes and everything would just be legendary.

That is such an odd reason for wanting anything to happen. Most people understood the deal would go through, the surprising turn is the one we are now aware of... the chaos you wanted to see is still happening, but why care about that at all?

 

[DenchDeckard]

Speaking to a few people today in the industry and they seem convinced Microsoft will get thos through in the end.

I just want them to give up and buy some third party exclusives I'd want.lol

 

[demigod]

You need to do more research. Other regulators are under ZERO obligation to comply with the UK. That is probably why you used the work "emboldens" rather than "obligates". Seems you are saying MS "wouldn't" or "shouldn't" just ditch the UK but that's your opinion. The fact is there I nothing legally stopping MS from choosing to leave the UK out in the cold and in fact, many insiders have said that this is the most likely course if the UK stands alone in opposing the merger. If this all happens, the UK would eventually dick tuck and endorse the merger bc the ppl of UK will not be happy with having to miss out on everything MS offers, possibly even windows. I would start learning Linux now if I were you, chap.

Lol how old are you kiddo.

 

[sachos]

Kinda Funny still thinks MS will still get Activision at the end of the day.

Link is broken for me. What did they say?

 

[Zok310]

This is what I am here for. Fuck those man babies!

Never celebrate until the game is over. These no exercising losers never played a competitive sport in their life.
Best part is the block have nothing to do with Sony, so they cant even be mad at Jim or “ponies”, instead they get to be mad at MS for having 60-70% share of cloud gaming.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So part of the rationale is Nintendo not getting an equal version of COD on Switch? No kidding. Switch is much less powerful. So it's better to have no version on Switch (current Activision) than a Switch quality version. Who knew.

As for cloud, it's a great option since MS is really the only game maker that has really tried gunning for it so people dont have to buy new hardware. That should be a consumer benefit not a detriment.

 

[Zok310]

Kinda Funny still thinks MS will still get Activision at the end of the day.

They full of shit, this merger is done unless ms plans on selling azure

 

[DeepEnigma]

Never celebrate until the game is over. These no exercising losers never played a competitive sport in their life.
Best part is the block have nothing to do with Sony, so they cant even be mad at Jim or “ponies”, instead they get to be mad at MS for having 60-70% share of cloud gaming.

Power of the Cloud™

Who knew this would all come back to bite them in the arse?

Xbox One and the Power of the Cloud - Xbox Wire

xbox One, Cloud, Infographic, Xbox Live

news.xbox.com

 

[Unknown?]

So part of the rationale is Nintendo not getting an equal version of COD on Switch? No kidding. Switch is much less powerful. So it's better to have no version on Switch (current Activision) than a Switch quality version. Who knew.

As for cloud, it's a great option since MS is really the only game maker that has really tried gunning for it so people dont have to buy new hardware. That should be a consumer benefit not a detriment.

This deal not going through doesn't mean there can't be a switch quality version though. Microsoft tried using that argument to get it passed but it wasn't a good argument. That wasn't what ultimately tanked it though.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So part of the rationale is Nintendo not getting an equal version of COD on Switch? No kidding. Switch is much less powerful. So it's better to have no version on Switch (current Activision) than a Switch quality version. Who knew.

As for cloud, it's a great option since MS is really the only game maker that has really tried gunning for it so people dont have to buy new hardware. That should be a consumer benefit not a detriment.

MS made the parity promise, the CMA called it bullshit. That is all.

The real issue was cloud.

 

[Topher]

They don’t have to bribe if Sony is a major video game employer in UK. Also, CMA wants that sweet tax revenue from game sales that they won’t get from streaming.

I would call UK bluff. They won’t ban Xbox or its acquisitions. Worse they would do is fine MS.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

What's pathetic? That seems like a rational take on things.

 

[Belthazar]

You need to do more research. Other regulators are under ZERO obligation to comply with the UK. That is probably why you used the work "emboldens" rather than "obligates". Seems you are saying MS "wouldn't" or "shouldn't" just ditch the UK but that's your opinion. The fact is there I nothing legally stopping MS from choosing to leave the UK out in the cold and in fact, many insiders have said that this is the most likely course if the UK stands alone in opposing the merger. If this all happens, the UK would eventually dick tuck and endorse the merger bc the ppl of UK will not be happy with having to miss out on everything MS offers, possibly even windows. I would start learning Linux now if I were you, chap.

I'm sorry... But do you really believe Microsoft will stop operations in one of the world's biggest markets for Activision? Is this the level of delusion we're at?

 

[Thirty7ven]

Well that fucking sucks...

Question: Did anyone agree with the reasons CMA provided for blocking it? I recognise my own bias so was wondering if I find their arguement laughable because I wanted it to go through.

Well Microsoft believes the cloud is the future of the industry, and the pathway to mass adoption. They believe in it so much Phil has publicly said Sony and Nintendo are out of position and that Google and Amazon are the real competition, and they are MS’s competitors in the cloud space. If can choose to believe that MS stock problems are due to series X chips being diverted to Xcloud, which would mean its really high on their list of priorities.

So if it’s true and Cloud is the future and has the potential to really reach hundreds of millions of people because suddenly you no longer need to buy a pc or a console, then the CMA’s argument about the silverback gorilla who is a Cloud powerhouse, has a huge gaming division already, and is investing hard on cloud gaming… is probably correct if the point is to preserve competition and innovation.

 

[Gudji]

 

[begotten]

Speaking to a few people today in the industry

Greg Miller and the guy who spits everywhere when he speaks aren't your friends.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

What's pathetic? That seems like a rational take on things.

It’s pathetic that he’s whining they’re back to square one, where can the worlds richest company go from here if they cannot buy another gigantic publisher with more of the most successful brands in gaming?

Instead of, you know, just making a go of it?

 

[Eotheod]

Ah yes, the technology that literally no one uses and half the world still needs to catch up on infrastructure-wise to support. The billion pound theoretical market is hilarious too, considering the biggest server provider, Google, came and went in the cloud market with a wet fart.

There's a time for appropriate clamping of anti-competitive behaviours in markets, and there is a time for common sense that is appropriate to the relevant markets. This just screams old people not knowing gaming listening to the ones not wanting it because they currently have the majority lead and favouring said leader. People pretending that this decision will force MS to be more competitive and fight against Sony through Sony's tactics are ignorant of the landscape right now.

You have the world leader in gaming getting massive gains because they are the leader, with concession in place due to popularity and ease of sales. How are you suppose to compete with that outside of first party games that now take longer to develop and cost more, all with the potential of your game not hitting big when it does come out? Heck, how are you suppose to compete third party wise when the other contender gets cheaper deals?

It'd be great if they even just put 2 billion into Elder Scrolls so they could get that out ASAP.

That's not how game development works. You don't just throw money at something to make it develop faster. That theory has been flawed ever since it was used as an excuse to console war.

 

[Topher]

Speaking to a few people today in the industry and they seem convinced Microsoft will get thos through in the end.

I just want them to give up and buy some third party exclusives I'd want.lol

Now you've got insider connections? A few hours ago you were ready to put all these threads on ignore.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

It’s pathetic that he’s whining they’re back to square one, where can the worlds richest company go from here if they cannot buy another gigantic publisher with more of the most successful brands in gaming?

Instead of, you know, just making a go of it?

It's kind of a big story that he's been following for over a year now. It didn't seem like he was whining, either.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Ah yes, the technology that literally no one uses and half the world still needs to catch up on infrastructure-wise to support. The billion pound theoretical market is hilarious too, considering the biggest server provider, Google, came and went in the cloud market with a wet fart.

There's a time for appropriate clamping of anti-competitive behaviours in markets, and there is a time for common sense that is appropriate to the relevant markets. This just screams old people not knowing gaming listening to the ones not wanting it because they currently have the majority lead and favouring said leader. People pretending that this decision will force MS to be more competitive and fight against Sony through Sony's tactics are ignorant of the landscape right now.

You have the world leader in gaming getting massive gains because they are the leader, with concession in place due to popularity and ease of sales. How are you suppose to compete with that outside of first party games that now take longer to develop and cost more, all with the potential of your game not hitting big when it does come out? Heck, how are you suppose to compete third party wise when the other contender gets cheaper deals?

It’s funny because Microsoft thinks you’re wrong. Consoles are outdated and cloud is the future.

But lemme guess, you think they say that just to throw off the scent? But if they lied then… oops? If they told the truth then… oops?

 

[Badlucktroll]

The cma took away the activision from microsoft

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Love him or hate him, at least Jez is a realist, unlike many high-profile hacks with OPINION.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Now you've got insider connections? A few hours ago you were ready to put all these threads on ignore.

No my job is working with companies in gaming. When discussing at an event today a few people mentioned they think it will ultimately go through. I just said I wanted it to end.

Like, these people will no nothing. Who really knows what's going to happen.

I think MS should drop it and just go lock in some big third parties exclusive for a couple of years. Whatever it costs. Like a western studio similar to square with final fantasy.

 

[shaddam]

Still no new colteastwood tweet. I hope he is okay

 

[begotten]

No my job is working with companies in gaming. When discussing at an event today a few people mentioned they think it will ultimately go through. I just said I wanted it to end.

Being on GAF of all day isn't an event.

 

[Thirty7ven]

No my job is working with companies in gaming. When discussing at an event today a few people mentioned they think it will ultimately go through. I just said I wanted it to end.

Hey guess what, those people don’t know shit. It comes down to “MS is so big they always get what they want” sort of mentality.

Those same people said the deal would go through without any opposition. We are a long way from Kansas.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

Love him or hate him, at least Jez is a realist, unlike many high-profile hacks with OPINION.

Is he?

Still hoping for that epic legendary win where the world’s richest company buys the fifth largest publisher for 70 billion.

It’s a real Goliath fellating Goliath story if it comes true. Golden parachutes for abusive executives, champagne, and free cod on game pass.

One for the ages. You’ll be telling your kids where you were when COD became free on gamepass because of Phil Spencer.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Is he?

It's all relative of course, but at least he's trying to sound somewhat sane. Today's Pro-MS twitter is madder than the Tea Party from Alice.

 

[Elder Legend]

That is such an odd reason for wanting anything to happen. Most people understood the deal would go through, the surprising turn is the one we are now aware of... the chaos you wanted to see is still happening, but why care about that at all?

Because it's hilarious too see delusional fanboys rage and how it would change the outlook of everything. To me it's irrelevant who buys them. I work in the industry so it doesn't affect me in any shape or form. I work with publishers, so it's not affecting me as a consumer.

And it's fun to profit off with articles and inticing headlines.

 

[Portugeezer]

Wow, did not not expect that... so much so that I think MS win on appeal.

 

[Facism]

Heart-warming how these big companies suddenly care about us UK peasantry.

 

[Alex Scott]

And that's different than sony going to every third party to remove games from xbox. Should we count the major studio games xbox and playstation lost in the last 5 years.

Yes, Why don't you name every game that PS took away from Xbox and vice versa.