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[MidGenRefresh]

I know CDkeys has it for $46, but thats for the Origin platform

It's the same game, right? Maybe if you're on Steam Deck I can understand the need of owning it on Steam but even in that case installing Origin owned games on Deck is super easy.

 

[Banjo64]

Watch.

'well obviously they had to increase the price of games in line with everyone else eventually'

'well obviously they have to increase the price of Game Pass from £10.99 considering all the £69.99 games you get on it, it's still the best value in gaming™'

'well obviously they had to increase the price of games to £79.99 to match PS6 games, what did you expect?

'well obviously they have to increase the price of Game Pass from £17.99 considering all the £79.99 games you get on it, it's still the best value in gaming™'

Just mix in some 'look at their overheads with ABK, of course they have to increase prices' and you're golden.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Eventually yes. Maybe in 2024 or 2025 But I expect it to reach 50m first before price increase.

50 million is my guesstimate as well before a price increase. We will see an announcement about no more stacking Gold conversion then a year later a price increase. I'm thinking tail end of 2025, then price increase in 2026.
This is assuming they even hit 50 million. I think they will.

 

[Forsythia]

Expected, but still shit. With Game Pass this is hardly a problem, though.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

If they want to start releasing tripple A quality games, I don't have a problem with it. You're not getting 70 dollars for no Grounded, The Gunk, Sea of Thieves looking crap though.

 

[Kiraly]

Watch.

'well obviously they had to increase the price of games in line with everyone else eventually'

'well obviously they have to increase the price of Game Pass from £10.99 considering all the £69.99 games you get on it, it's still the best value in gaming™'

'well obviously they had to increase the price of games to £79.99 to match PS6 games, what did you expect?

'well obviously they have to increase the price of Game Pass from £17.99 considering all the £79.99 games you get on it, it's still the best value in gaming™'

Just mix in some 'look at their overheads with ABK, of course they have to increase prices' and you're golden.

Where is all the but of course they had to do it because of inflation and weakening currencies?

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I don't agree with £70 games at all but at least with Sony they kind of has their hooks in players with games like TLoU, Uncharted and God of War. I don't really feel like MS have that kind of pulling power with their games. Maybe next year will tell a different story.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

I paid $70 for Midnight Suns and was sort of confused. I thought only Sony had raised the prices. Pretty sure I bought the basic version.

 

[adamsapple]

If they want to start releasing tripple A quality games, I don't have a problem with it. You're not getting 70 dollars for no Grounded, The Gunk, Sea of Thieves looking crap though.

Reading is really fun guys.

Forza Motorsport, Redfall, and Starfield will be among the first to reflect the change.

 

[Zathalus]

I love how everyone is dunking on Microsoft when this will be 2.5 years after Sony made the change.

 

[Chukhopops]

GP value instantly up 15%, nice.

If they want to start releasing tripple A quality games, I don't have a problem with it. You're not getting 70 dollars for no Grounded, The Gunk, Sea of Thieves looking crap though.

None of those games was sold full price though?

 

[adamsapple]

I love how everyone is dunking on Microsoft when this will be 2.5 years after Sony made the change.

Just wait till the thread if/when they increase the consoles price next year. Phil will become public enemy #1 again.

 

[Banjo64]

Where is all the but of course they had to do it because of inflation and weakening currencies?

Difference is I attacked that too but for the people that didn't I find them equally enslaved.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

We will see an announcement about no more stacking Gold conversion then a year later a price increase.

Yeah, I expect Gold conversion to be closed. Though with the launch of Friends & Family it won't matter much.

 

[R6Rider]

 

[Chukhopops]

I love how everyone is dunking on Microsoft when this will be 2.5 years after Sony made the change.

Guys paying €79 for Returnal or Forspoken pointing fingers lmao.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I love how everyone is dunking on Microsoft when this will be 2.5 years after Sony made the change.

 

[MikeM]

Sad, but kind of expected
Makes gamepass better value, hoping they don't increase that any time soon

For now. Those increases are coming.

Not necessarily true... I've been sitting on this screen for the past 2 hours trying to convince myself to make the purchase

Yep. I have joined Pc "masterrace" ans looked for these fabled "games are cheaper." Literally the same price for me lol

$70 games when all you have to pay is $150 for three years of GamePass lmfao

For now. Like the "cheaper" new games, this will also be closed out. Corps want money and don't care about you behind the PR.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

Booo, I don't buy their games cause gamepass but when you double down on something and go back on it you deserve backlash. If they planned on doing this they should have stayed silent and not acted like a martyr.

 

[Elginer]

Until they raise their subscription prices as well?
Like Amazon, Netflix, Disney have all been doing?
This is the first step, let's see if the Gamepass price will be the same when Starfield is released.

Which is why I have mine stacked till 2026

 

[splattered]

At least they held out for a while...

I remember the days of SNES games also being overly expensive.

We have come full circle.

 

[DForce]

I'm going to bet that GP price is going to increase and/or they're going to stop releasing games day one on the service in the future if they don't hit their subscriber goals.

 

[shaddam]

So it means they will have games finally? Cool

 

[Andodalf]

Accounting for inflation, A 70$ game in 2023 is less than a 60$ game in 2020. And other compaines made their games cost 70$ in 2020...

 

[DeepEnigma]

For the payers.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

Yikes, paying $70 for the two games they'll be able to ship in 2023?

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

But but evil Sony.

 

[Fermbiz]

At least they held out for a while...

I remember the days of SNES games also being overly expensive.

We have come full circle.

I was talking to my friend yesterday about this exactly. I remember my uncle took me to 5 or 6 different stores around NYC because he didn't want to pay $75 bucks for Street Fighter II on the SNES lol.

 

[zomboden]

I look for game pass to go up to 19.99 or at least 17.99 about the time Starfield and Redfall come out.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

I love being priced out of the gaming market by cold unfeeling corporations who increase prices because of "inFlAyshun" despite making record profits

Coporations are a major factor into inflation and we pay the cost of their never ending greed. It's ridiculous than people who are equally screwed over will go "its only 10$".

https://www.epi.org/blog/corporate-...to-inflation-how-should-policymakers-respond/

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It was bound to come. MS is probably the last big company to do it.

And it comes down to gamers accepting it. Once general consensus agrees to it, floodgates open and everyone copies.

Absolutely no different than the big change from discs to digital over the years (which for most people even includes needing to buy an external HDD for more storage). A big uproar at the beginning, but now accepted.

Same goes for patches. Console game patching used to be zero. Then during 360/PS3 era it was modest with few patches and they were small in size. Now, it seems console patches are as common and big than a PC patch. Again, gamers accept it so they'll keep doing it even after all the past laughs console gamers used to do to PC gamers how they got patches and consoles need zero.

There's been chat about this kind of stuff in different threads over time. And many of us said the same thing..... if game makers do it long enough, gamers eventually cave in and accept. As long as the game makers hold firm pushing it, gamers always bend.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Well, Phil literally almost confirmed this was coming like a month ago. This is hardly a surprise to be honest

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Did they even release any notable games?

 

[T4keD0wN]

"This price reflects the content, scale, and technical complexity of these titles," a Microsoft spokesperson told IGN. "

Shouldnt they be lowering the prices if that were the case? I hope they bring gamepass to steam, no way i am spending 1/5 of my income for 1 game or using their launcher.

 

[Ozriel]

Maybe try releasing a new game first before bumping up the price. Jesus

Maybe you could try reading the OP?

Lmao. What a post.

 

[Stuart360]

I love how everyone is dunking on Microsoft when this will be 2.5 years after Sony made the change.

Sony does it - Good business sense.
Microsoft does it - Evil incarnate.

 

[balls of snow]

Im thinking they will also change "all first party games on gamepass day 1" pretty soon too. It reflects the ceiling of subs they are hitting.

Also,

 

[Putonahappyface]

 

[IDKFA]

Sure but eventually they'll raise the price of the sub I think.

And I'd be happy with that. Even at £30 a month it'd still be absolutely amazing value. I'd pretty much pay whatever Microsoft asked me to pay.

 

[LordCBH]

Told y'all it was a matter of time. But some didn't want to listen.

 

[phil_t98]

kinda funny you put that but gamers have choice and can play on Gamepass day one. so who's really laughing now? right back at you

 

[MMaRsu]

Stop buying games it will ahow them

 

[Nankatsu]

 

[DeepEnigma]

I love how everyone is dunking on Microsoft when this will be 2.5 years after Sony made the change.

Guys paying €79 for Returnal or Forspoken pointing fingers lmao.

Nobody is pointing fingers, people are just giving back the same shit Sony received.

kinda funny you put that but gamers have choice and can play on Gamepass day one. so who's really laughing now? right back at you

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Thanks a lot J.R.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's easy to not raise the price when you don't release any next-gen game.

Can't wait to see the new narrative the green rats will come up with to attack Sony on game prices. That DarkMage poster in particular.

Narrative has already been shifted to the rental service. See above.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Thankfully I've largely stopped buying/playing games at launch anyway.

Starfield better be 60FPS now though.

 

[Zathalus]

Yikes, paying $70 for the two games they'll be able to ship in 2023?

They are shipping 3 new AAA titles in 2023. Like Sony did for 2022. 3 or 4 AAA games per year seems like a decent number to me, obviously Microsoft screwed up for 2022.

 

[SSfox]

As expected.

Personally, i have no interest in any Xbox game, so this doesn't affect me at all.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

But I just wrote a letter to Phill (the Protector of gamers) saying how much he meant to me.

And I was assured by all Green Influencers that MS is happy to lose money forever because they are a charity and can afford it and they care for us.

I feel betrayed.