Microsoft strikes back; hacked consoles are being banned from XBL! scumbags am cry
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.krypt0nian
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I guess our Luke finally swept the leg.
MiloFoxburr
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Ranger X said:
If they could find a way that modded people would be banned without an false positives then yeah brick the system. They (The pirates) should not be still able to play their copied games
-Edit- It might be too early to jump the gun banning reports are pretty random at the moment. It does seem likely though
ToiletofSadness
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Right, I understood his question to be about using Live with the modchip activated. I remember reading some speculation that some people figured it out, but I didn't put much stock into it.beermonkey@tehbias said:
Beer Monkey
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ECMs to brick systems is a bad idea, one mistake and you could wipe out millions of legit buyers' systems. You'll never see such an initiative.
Now this is excellent news, for two reasons:
- Pirates are getting banned, and that's always a good thing
- The great minds that find the hacks will get back to work and maybe find a way to get around the hypervisor with recent kernels too. I'd love to have real homebrew stuff on the 360 because it's clear that the XNA things won't ever be as good as good as their original C/C++ counterparts.
- Pirates are getting banned, and that's always a good thing
- The great minds that find the hacks will get back to work and maybe find a way to get around the hypervisor with recent kernels too. I'd love to have real homebrew stuff on the 360 because it's clear that the XNA things won't ever be as good as good as their original C/C++ counterparts.
MiloFoxburr
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Blimblim said:
Yeah, would love to see homebrew on the 360 but the people in the scene don't seem bothered :/ Mainly because the majority of sceners are happy with their copied games
Beer Monkey
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MiloFoxburr said:
That's a bummer. Screw copied games, I just want XBMC-HD.
The error rate was very very near zero, if not really zero. Lots of people who said they had been banned for no reason either lied or had their little brother or whatever forget to switch off their modchip once. I've seen it happen dozens of times on my forum, and I've not seen one person getting banned and being able to actually prove their Xbox was totally unmodded.Ranger X said:
MiloFoxburr
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shuri said:
Chances are their detection method can spot any type of modification even if the original firmware is put back on
The Faceless Master
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what would they spot if the original firmware was put back on though?MiloFoxburr said:
MiloFoxburr
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The Faceless Master said:
I dunno, not a technical person but something could of been modified even on the original firmware could just be a value thats out of place. The original method of extracting firmwares could of of been flawed though I doubt that.
Also the person who posted that is a 1 poster (On that other forum) I'd take what he said with a grain of salt for the moment at least
MiloFoxburr said:
I'm not sure what they are doing, as the hack is a drive firmware update so that the drive reports 'yep, this is a genuine 360 disc sir' when asked, even if its a DVDR.
Maybe they are doing something like RCE did on DVD, to try and ask more awkward questions of the drive, or perhaps somehow they can get the drive to report more detailed information that lets them know?
I'd love a proper mod chip for something like XMBC, but to be honest I think both 360 and PS3 will eventually be close enough in basic media handling to make that not necessary for me at least.
MiloFoxburr
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mrklaw said:
For the PS3 at least the RSX just has to be unlocked in Linux for the system to become an excellent media system
They don't actually detect mods, they use the scene-release of Crackdown to identify hacked systems as far as I understand. The scene-release was a beta, it's slightly different from the retail version, and MS can detect this. If someone runs the beta, it's fair to assume his box was modded.
ToiletofSadness
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Except for those people who sent their xbox in for repair and got a new hard drive.Blimblim said:
MiloFoxburr
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Maxconsole said:
So people have differing idea's on what is wrong
this screen has been around for ages, u get it also when u have bad NAT issues
if somehow the send/ack packets weren't match up correctly with THEIR network then possibly you'd get a banned msg in the header info
now, MS COULD be using the screen to tell banned firmwaresers that they are banned, but it coudl just be coinkydink
if somehow the send/ack packets weren't match up correctly with THEIR network then possibly you'd get a banned msg in the header info
now, MS COULD be using the screen to tell banned firmwaresers that they are banned, but it coudl just be coinkydink
i got my xbox 1 banned from live with halo 2. it was a perfectly legit copy of halo 2, but my xbox did have a mod chip (disable-able) in it i used to run xbmc. i always had it off while playing halo 2, so they must have added some sort of hard drive scan to the ban procedure. they probably just checked for xbmc files and banned the system if it found any on the hard drive. now i just use my 360 for multiplayer halo 2.
MiloFoxburr
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crunker99 said:
Heres hoping they are actually banning people..
Merovingian
Banned
I knew Halo3 Beta was some sort of troujan horse.
But i wonder how this works.
But i wonder how this works.
Burger
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Who knows what MS is doing or even how they are doing it.
I'm willing to bet they have been data mining every 360 on live for some time, and know more about each console than we think they do.
It makes sense to bide your time and wait until 500,000 or so theives are online and then flick a switch to ban them all. Plus with the Halo beta being so hot right now you might sell a couple of hundred consoles the next day...
I'm willing to bet they have been data mining every 360 on live for some time, and know more about each console than we think they do.
It makes sense to bide your time and wait until 500,000 or so theives are online and then flick a switch to ban them all. Plus with the Halo beta being so hot right now you might sell a couple of hundred consoles the next day...
Holy Order Sol
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lastendconductor
Put your snobby liquids into my mouth!
Jump out!
from another blog:
"But what about the thousands of people who have received refurbished boxes. What if they have come from a modder and then the new owner gets banned for no fault of his own!
I sure hope MS repair service runs a clean firmware in each of them before sending to new owners or all h*ll will break loose. "
This is true since we all know the MS repair service isn't very thorough and I'm pretty sure they have not been checking firmwares in the past.
"But what about the thousands of people who have received refurbished boxes. What if they have come from a modder and then the new owner gets banned for no fault of his own!
I sure hope MS repair service runs a clean firmware in each of them before sending to new owners or all h*ll will break loose. "
This is true since we all know the MS repair service isn't very thorough and I'm pretty sure they have not been checking firmwares in the past.
I'm thinking they should include it on the games themselves since all this will do is stop people from using Live. People aren't going to give up their mods for Halo 3 beta. They'll just wait until September to play the full version. Putting the protection on the games themselves is the best way.
Wow, the other day my buddy who has a modded 360 was telling how it is impossible for Microsoft to detect any changes. He kept pushing me to mod my 360 so I could play all the games that he likes that I was unwilling to buy. I told him I was worried that Microsoft would be able to eventually find out about it through Live and I would get banned. He just laughed at me.
Edit: I didn't get it modded due to my fear.
Edit: I didn't get it modded due to my fear.
The Faceless Master
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well, it DID take them over a year...skybaby said: