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Does it matter who markets a game? You still get it on other platforms.
MosquitoSmasher
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The only cool thing is that we're going to see it on Scorpio i bet and that's nice, because I'm sure AC is a good showcase title.
I saw you guys mentioning Ashen, whatever happened with that? Must be like two years that we haven't seen it. Hopefully they have an update for us. At least we know Cuphead is still coming but nothing on Ashen.
By the wording on his leaving note, he went to work on educational tools for MR there, not really gaming related
Bits N Pieces
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Not with Scorpio, specially if they don't own a good 4K tv, but surely people could give the slim a chance if it had a nice, cheap bundle with an exciting game. A Fable one will surely make me bite. I was considering the Scorpio but I decided to wait for my OLED 65 4K upgrade until at least BF 2018 so it doesn't make much sense, atm.
Also I've been toying with the idea of getting a switch to play my first Zelda. Being a long time Sega fan first, and PC gamer later, I never had a chance before
Banjo-Kazooie
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It's a pipe dream of mine, but it would be awesome if Studio Gobo is working with Rare on a Banjo game
Ashen dev is advertising on twitter for playtesters so I think it's coming along nicely! Prob just focusing on dev
PositiveGamer
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If MS made a deal with Team Ninja.. then what happens?? We will get a mediocre Ninja Gaiden game or DOA 6..
The mastermind and other talented people from Team Ninja who were responsible for the success of NG and DOA left Team Ninja.. And I am not even sure they still got "it" judging their last game Devils Third for the WII U.
Ultimately, working a deal with Team Ninja would be like MS purchasing Rare with none of the original talent on board..
P.S
MS only seems keen on multiplayer games.. :-(
PositiveGamer
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I was going by NG 3 results.....
Itigaki was also very creative and a perfectionist.. compare the art style between NG 1 and 2 versus Nioh..
No offense.. but NG blows it and that was over a decade ago!!
anyways, current Team Ninja would rather make a deal with Sony as evidence shows..
MosquitoSmasher
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Oh man, a 65 inch OLED? That's crazy, haha. I have a OLED myself but sadly not 4K. And I'm afraid that won't happen until next year for me. Ah well. OLED is sublime though.
If Gobo has the talent for it, hell yeah. The only thing we know is that they are looking for people to work on a third person action game, correct? There was also something about F2P but then they also partnered with Ubi, so bit hard to know what is what. Whatever the case is right now with Banjo, when/if MS greenlights one i hope MS doesn't meddle in it and lets Rare go all out with it.
Good to hear that about Ashen. Could be something really special.
I agree with you about NG shitting on Nioh. But I wouldn't discount the team until I saw a new NG game. I never played 3 so I cannot comment on it but it has been a while since that game came out.
MosquitoSmasher
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I'm starting to wonder if it might be Studio Gobo that is working on that Mixed Reality game. It's definitely a possibility.
I got the idea that it was more of an internal thing from MS
I think what MS wants is just GaaS.
And that model can work with single player, just have to find a way to make sure it's revenue goes beyond just that initial purchase. Multiplayer inherently has stuff in place to allow for further monetization, while the previous tried and true method of single player DLC in the form of expansion packs or additional story content only works if the game is successful enough to warrent that additional dev time in the first place.
That's, imo anyway, why they made Game Pass. If they can add value to a subscription with exclusive content, even if it's single player, then the revenue from the subs might be more lucrative than the profits from a more traditional experience.
Think of a game like Hitman for instance. I certainly enjoy the series but after a $60 absolution purchase, I decided to wait and pick up the game after everything was available, but by the time the game released a complete version I was playing other and newer things.
Now imagine if it was used to add value to something like Game Pass, with each episode released day 1 for subscribers, with the option to buy. I can't say if it would have prevented the situation we are seeing with IO today, but I do believe the model could have worked better than what we got.
From another thread:
No Halo 6 at E3 apparently. Good
No Halo 6 at E3 apparently. Good
DriftingSpirit
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Interesting.
Good indeed.
No need for Halo 6, give us H3A implemented into a fixed MCC, ported to W10 with cross-save and cross-play.
That should fix a few burnt bridges.
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It'll be Halo 5 dlc. Halo 5 is going into gamespass and it's gonna get another boost to the player base. To make it even more attractive you do something like remaster 5 or whatever many halo 3 maps and have a separate mode with those maps in it. Add some armor reqs and there you go
Anyway they would've likely only shown a CGI trailer anyway. We didn't get a campaign gameplay of halo 5 until E3 2015
It'll be Halo 5 dlc. Halo 5 is going into gamespass and it's gonna get another boost to the player base. To make it even more attractive you do something like remaster 5 or whatever many halo 3 maps and have a separate mode with those maps in it. Add some armor reqs and there you go
Anyway they would've likely only shown a CGI trailer anyway. We didn't get a campaign gameplay of halo 5 until E3 2015
Do you know how much work that'd take. Plus I'm pretty sure frank has said multiple times they are looking ahead, not back in regards to MCC
I still think it's 2018. We got a cgi thing in 2013. Nothing in 2014 E3, multiplayer reveal and better in winter 2014 and full reveal at E3 2015
SenseiAsad
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Probably Halo Wars 2 DLC? Didn't they say something a while back about getting campaign DLC? We haven't had any yet.
Halo 6 will still come out in 2018. I always had a feeling they might not show it, didn't think they actually wouldn't though.
Phil seems to be serious about the whole not showing games until they're about to release, in which case for better or worse, prepare for an extremely boring E3. My guess is they will only show games planning to release before E3 2018.
Phil seems to be serious about the whole not showing games until they're about to release, in which case for better or worse, prepare for an extremely boring E3. My guess is they will only show games planning to release before E3 2018.
I mean halo 5 dlc would be a much better showing than halo wars 2 dlc. Don't think anybody really cares about that
The hate for Halo runs deep
CassidyIzABeast
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New Halo written by Joe Staten
I'm fully aware of how much work it would take, and still don't think its unreasonable to ask. You don't leave the titles that made you what you are today in such a shitty state and just walk off with no answers, and since that's exactly what they did it will forever remain a giant stain on their record. There's arguments to made for Halo 4 and Halo 5 at least, but the MCC will never have that.
Do I think it will actually happen? nope.
But it should.
I care about Halo Wars 2 dlc, as I'm sure others who have bought the game do.
But yeah let's ignore the game just because you didn't buy it.
I don't hate halo I just don't think it's needed
we know it's coming in 2018 why bother showing it? the only games that should be shown 1+ year ahead of release should be new IP's
Poodlestrike
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MCC is functional now, which is about all I think we can expect at this point. The whole thing is apparently a gigantic house of cards; forget porting it, even trying to implement further fixes could break everything.
No H6 at E3 is really curious. My vet is that they're going to be leaning heavily on their mixed reality output to fill up the show. Guess we'd better hope that the HoloLens studios are producing good stuff lol.
No H6 at E3 is really curious. My vet is that they're going to be leaning heavily on their mixed reality output to fill up the show. Guess we'd better hope that the HoloLens studios are producing good stuff lol.
I say it half jokingly. Some would rather it not exist. But you are right, it's not particularly needed since it's not going to be a deep dive into 6 anyway
Im not saying ignore the game. Put out a video or Xbox wire or have it diluting one of the daily shows. No need for actual stage time
Lmfao amazing. True.
Regardless Blake, the game deserves attention and support. I don't see why it shouldn't have screen time at the conference, even if only for a few seconds.
Steelyuhas
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Maybe the most important thing to note is that MCC currently has no monetization hooks in it, which makes future updates/content for it (if it was paid content) less likely.
This is definitely something that people should get their heads around as a real possibility. Phil has stated many many times that they announced things too early in the past and he doesn't want to do that, yet some people here will expect them to come out at E3 and be like "here's our 2018 lineup". That's probably not going to happen.
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Deleted member 471617
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No Halo 6 at E3!!! Woohoo!!! Awesome. Hope it stays that way.
I have no problem with Spencer not wanting to show games that won't be released until after E3 2018 until next year's E3.
Show me what im going to be playing for the rest of 2017 and early 2018. That's what I care about. Not games that are literally years and years away. All that does is lead to getting overhyped and overexposed and eventually being a disappointment.
Microsoft having the marketing deal for AC isn't surprising at all and if anything, was expected. Seeing it run off Scorpio has me pumped. Marketing deals are only bad when you get exclusive content for one console that won't appear on the other or if it's a timed but at the same time, there's an easy way around this - own both consoles.
I own a PS4 Pro and an Xbox One Slim. Will trade in the Slim towards Scorpio once it gets close to being released. Console wars and fanboys is beyond stupid because all that person is doing is hurting themselves by limiting what they can play.
As a single player gamer, im heavily favored towards Sony's exclusives but at the same time, I will always own both consoles so when games come out for that other console that I want to play, I know I can do so without any problems.
Now that Horizon Zero Dawn is in my completed list, my next big exclusive is State of Decay 2 baby!!! Hoping for an October release and that it's close to Scorpio.
Seriously, 2017 has been excellent thus far and will only get better as the year moves forward. Microsoft's E3 has me pumped and hyped not for games that are years away but for State of Decay 2 and Crackdown 3 as im very interested in seeing what this game is all about. Four more weeks to go from this Sunday!!! Can't wait!!!
I have no problem with Spencer not wanting to show games that won't be released until after E3 2018 until next year's E3.
Show me what im going to be playing for the rest of 2017 and early 2018. That's what I care about. Not games that are literally years and years away. All that does is lead to getting overhyped and overexposed and eventually being a disappointment.
Microsoft having the marketing deal for AC isn't surprising at all and if anything, was expected. Seeing it run off Scorpio has me pumped. Marketing deals are only bad when you get exclusive content for one console that won't appear on the other or if it's a timed but at the same time, there's an easy way around this - own both consoles.
I own a PS4 Pro and an Xbox One Slim. Will trade in the Slim towards Scorpio once it gets close to being released. Console wars and fanboys is beyond stupid because all that person is doing is hurting themselves by limiting what they can play.
As a single player gamer, im heavily favored towards Sony's exclusives but at the same time, I will always own both consoles so when games come out for that other console that I want to play, I know I can do so without any problems.
Now that Horizon Zero Dawn is in my completed list, my next big exclusive is State of Decay 2 baby!!! Hoping for an October release and that it's close to Scorpio.
Seriously, 2017 has been excellent thus far and will only get better as the year moves forward. Microsoft's E3 has me pumped and hyped not for games that are years away but for State of Decay 2 and Crackdown 3 as im very interested in seeing what this game is all about. Four more weeks to go from this Sunday!!! Can't wait!!!
Banjo-Kazooie
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Updated OP. Things done:
- Added Halo Wars DE release date
- Added Minecraft Windows 10 edition coming to XB1 as a rumor under Mojang
- Microsoft Ultimate Word Games now in closed Preview
- Mixed Reality Team added under "other studios/teams"
- Crackdown release date changed from TBA to 2017
- Added Studio Gobo as a collab studio working on unknown game with MS
DriftingSpirit
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So it will be something like a Halo 5 expansion? Interesting.
Banjo-Kazooie
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Halo 5 expansion/Definitive edition updated for Scorpio?
Halo 3 anniv (I know Frankie is adament this isnt happening)?
Halo Master Chief Collection being patched for Scorpio and it will work now?
DriftingSpirit
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All of this would be nice.
Banjo-Kazooie
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A cool little 4 minute interview with Ken Lobb: https://www.microsoftstudios.com/news/2017/05/12/get-games-industry-ken-lobb/
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Deleted member 471617
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Hoping Forza Horizon 3 gets a Scorpio patch. 
Hoping Forza Horizon 3 gets a Scorpio patch.
I would be shocked if it didn't.
CrimsonEclipse
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Hoping Forza Horizon 3 gets a Scorpio patch.
It most certainly will, game is still booming and with the recent release of solid dlc you can bet it will.
Also 4K assets already there from PC version, it's probably gonna be a super easy update for Playground.
Bits N Pieces
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As a massive Halo fanboy that's the best news I've heard in ages, let that game breathe.
Plus it fucks up everyone's prediction of Halo 6 closing the show
Banjo-Kazooie
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As a massive Halo fanboy that's the best news I've heard in ages, let that game breathe.
Plus it fucks up everyone's prediction of Halo 6 closing the show
Wonder what the "and one more thing" moment will be this year!
CrimsonEclipse
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Didn't listen to a word he said cause my eyes were glued to dat Scorpio dev kit on his desk.
Scorpio Price or a fan favorite forgotten franchise coming back as part of a collab like Killer Instinct.
Halo Mega blocks.
That's a Xbox one s dev kit.