securitypigeon
Banned
Is there any way to safely let go of a branded enemy after they've been grabbed? It automatically throws them, and with ledges abound, that ain't good!
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Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor |OT| One Title to rule them all
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Just finished this game and here are my overall impressions :
Combat is batman ; not a bad thing . Its more visceral and feels really fun . Its also a bit rougher as I can't seem to target enemies that well leading to executions hitting the wrong uruk.
AI is stupid but I think this was deliberately done to keep the game flowing and it works well. My only gripe would be that I feel day and night don't have an effect on their visibility.
Game looks nice . Some issues with traversable areas/ ledges and general environmental collision but not too bad.
Nemesis system is genius . Makes all those side missions that would normally be samey unique ( depending on captain ). Also makes you feel like a baws when you have all the war chiefs dominated
Bit on the short side but certainly worth it.
Here is a story from me . was trying to make one the captains fuck up his hunt and got ambused by 3 other captains and pummeled to paste . was very cathartic hunting the one that killed me .
Combat is batman ; not a bad thing . Its more visceral and feels really fun . Its also a bit rougher as I can't seem to target enemies that well leading to executions hitting the wrong uruk.
AI is stupid but I think this was deliberately done to keep the game flowing and it works well. My only gripe would be that I feel day and night don't have an effect on their visibility.
Game looks nice . Some issues with traversable areas/ ledges and general environmental collision but not too bad.
Nemesis system is genius . Makes all those side missions that would normally be samey unique ( depending on captain ). Also makes you feel like a baws when you have all the war chiefs dominated
Bit on the short side but certainly worth it.
Here is a story from me . was trying to make one the captains fuck up his hunt and got ambused by 3 other captains and pummeled to paste . was very cathartic hunting the one that killed me .
When does the mission for Shadow Strike show up?
Sanctuary
Member
That reminds me. I didn't have collision issues as much as the game's "sticky" parkour would sometimes be really stupid and not do what I wanted it to do. Sometimes you can run directly towards a wall and then start climbing up it. Other times he will start rolling into the traversable object and still other times he would press up against it as though he's crouching for cover and as though it cannot be climbed, when it can be.
I also absolutely hated the utter randomness of the drop down mechanic. You know, hit B (or I guess circle for PS3/4) to drop down off of a ledge. You're facing one direction and so you want to hang off of a very specific ledge? Okay, so hit your button. Whoops, that's not the side you want to hang down from, so shift the way Talion is facing. Nope, he hangs down on the same side he just did again. Now, do the same thing on an identical type ledge area and he may or may not actually end up hanging the direction you want. Shit was infuriating on stealth missions.
There were also many times where I would want to simply walk off a ledge, but nope, you have to JUMP a mile off because the magnetic ledge would prevent you from "accidentally" falling off.
I also didn't like how slow the transition from rolling to running was. If you just rolled in combat and wanted to start running, you would have to walk for 2-3 seconds or else hitting the run button would just make you dodge again. This was really annoying when trying to gain ground from a fast elite that was directly on your back.
It just proves some people have way more difficulty with basic action games than others.
Edit: I do get your meaning though.
The Nemesis system is a resounding success. This post proves it.
Audioboxer
Member
Here we go! - https://twitter.com/Gavin_Devine/status/518374847018446849
Followed up with damn, dat intro \m/
Followed up with damn, dat intro \m/
RadioactiveLobster
Member
So I've run into an issue of if I brand too many uruk in a fight to try and making getting at a captain easier they seem to have a habit of killing the captain before I get a chance to brand them.
This has happened to me 3 times so far.
I also don't like the fact that you "throw" a held uruk when you dismiss them, did that to a branded captain earlier and accidentally threw him off a bridge to his death.
This has happened to me 3 times so far.
I also don't like the fact that you "throw" a held uruk when you dismiss them, did that to a branded captain earlier and accidentally threw him off a bridge to his death.
Almost finished now, all in all I have to say Shadow of Mordor has been one of the best games I have played in a long time. Sure, it has it's problems (which game doesn't?) but they are mostly pretty minor gripes. The Nemesis system is truly first time something has felt "next-gen" in the PS4/X1 generation to me - something never seen before in any game. And possibly something not possible to do on previous gen hardware.
Really hope this is a start of a great new franchise for Monolith.
9/10.
Really hope this is a start of a great new franchise for Monolith.
9/10.
Sanctuary
Member
I found out the hard way about the throwing when trying to brand a bunch of archers after a non leathal shadow teleport. I just started pulling them so that they were facing a wall when releasing them. As far as your first issue, there's a skill that lets you instantly kill all those around you that you've branded. I normally would just brand a few per fight anyway as fodder and distractions and just execute the rest.
As someone who actively despised the books and movies that I've gotten through in the series this game has been shocking me
Yet after playing two hours of this game I'm loving it.
That said I would love to just cut gollums stupid head off, what a dumb little fucker that thing is. Basically the only thing I dislike so far is him.
Only two things this generation have made me say wow this needed the new consoles.
The nemesis system in this game.
The graphics in Infamous second son.
Yet after playing two hours of this game I'm loving it.
That said I would love to just cut gollums stupid head off, what a dumb little fucker that thing is. Basically the only thing I dislike so far is him.
Only two things this generation have made me say wow this needed the new consoles.
The nemesis system in this game.
The graphics in Infamous second son.
I bought this game yesterday. I don't care about LOTR so I completely ignored this release. Between this thread and the Bombcast basically having an orgasm about the nemesis system, I bit, despite the fact that there are 500 other great games this fall.
Now here's my question to you guys, am I supposed to be dying like crazy? So far my experience is to find a captain, try to fight him, and immediately get surrounded by 2 other captains and 15 Uruks. I can hold my own but sometimes it's overwhelming and I end up dying. So basically I spent all day making every grunt into a bad ass captain. I had a guy called something "the crazy" who killed me so much he was hard as hell by the time I actually killed him. Should I be doing other missions and side stuff in order to get to a point where these are easier, or am I using the wrong strategy?
Now here's my question to you guys, am I supposed to be dying like crazy? So far my experience is to find a captain, try to fight him, and immediately get surrounded by 2 other captains and 15 Uruks. I can hold my own but sometimes it's overwhelming and I end up dying. So basically I spent all day making every grunt into a bad ass captain. I had a guy called something "the crazy" who killed me so much he was hard as hell by the time I actually killed him. Should I be doing other missions and side stuff in order to get to a point where these are easier, or am I using the wrong strategy?
v0mitg0d
Member
aaaaand now its working. Reloading fixed it.
SporeCrawler
Member
hmm i think i should buy this. first PS4 game since second son
insmileoutblood
Member
Really enjoying this so far, but I seem to keep getting dagger runes and very rarely sword/bow ones.
Is this randomised or based on the method you kill the enemy?
Is this randomised or based on the method you kill the enemy?
For some reason when it comes to dodging in this game, I'm just not as good as I am in the Batman games. I can get combos up really high and be surrounded by tons of guys, even feeling good about my chances after a reinforcement horn blows, but eventually it falls apart. I just feel like the window for dodging is super small. I tried the ghul matron sword mission a couple times and could not beat the fucking thing. I've hardly unlocked any of the second tier abilities, though. So maybe I'm making it harder on myself by going after it at this point.
The nemesis system really is something special, though. Hope more open world games rip it off in some way.
The nemesis system really is something special, though. Hope more open world games rip it off in some way.
Audioboxer
Member
About to really get going now, any early game tips or things I should do first, or just go and explore on my own? I don't think any trophies are missable.
Focus on the story, you want branding asap and it's very easy to get sidetracked.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
Is it easy to platinum? Only games I've ever had the patience to platinum are Wolfenstein TNO, Infamous SS and Tearaway lol. So going by those games, you reckon I could do it? Haha
I got all achievements on steam done in 20 hours. They are all pretty straight forward to do.
The only one where you have to grind/hope for is getting a lvl 25 rune.
Sanctuary
Member
If you mean grab a captain, get info then "dismiss"? You aren't killing them. They simply vanish, only to appear in another area (sometimes close to where you are) and they will be on the troops menu.
You can brand them, then brand them again if you need arrows (and have a rune for that) and find out intel all at the same time.
Not sure how accurate this is, but I didn't care enough to bother after finishing the game.
http://www.crashwiki.com/get-level-25-rune-middle-earth-shadow-mordor/
It's easy and if you know what you're doing it's 20 hours (as FtHTiny mentioned). Probably a tiny bit harder than Infamous but significantly more fun. Nothing that any regular Gaffer couldn't handle though.
Yeah that works. There's a chance you get an Epic Rune instead though, so I had to do it twice.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Hah, suck it Ratanak. Went out like a little bitch as he tried to run away. Couldn't escape me chasing him and igniting a bonfire as he ran by. HAHAHAHAHAHA.
I blew off a day out with friends to kill him. Totally worth it. Totally.
I blew off a day out with friends to kill him. Totally worth it. Totally.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
Good to know. Once it's completed i'll get to it then!
ReplacementPelican
Member
My task right now is to kill 4 War-chiefs, this isn't some end-game shit, is it? I'm okay to do it without fear of finishing the story? Also, do people succeed War-chiefs or are they gone for good?
VFX_Veteran
Banned
Played even more last night..
It's official.. this game is now a CLASSIC! I have never had so much fun in combat (despite how hard it is) in any game -- Dark Souls, Assassin's Creed, and Batman compared. This game has a much much more fun combat system that is both rewarding, makes you feel like a total bad-ass, and still challenging as hell (often requiring you to pay attention to your moves). Nothing will touch it for quite a while..
It's official.. this game is now a CLASSIC! I have never had so much fun in combat (despite how hard it is) in any game -- Dark Souls, Assassin's Creed, and Batman compared. This game has a much much more fun combat system that is both rewarding, makes you feel like a total bad-ass, and still challenging as hell (often requiring you to pay attention to your moves). Nothing will touch it for quite a while..
Miles Quaritch
Member
Is there any way to gain more power without doing story missions?
I've done a number of side missions, but I'm barely getting any power, I've got some from killing captains, but it's not much...
I've done a number of side missions, but I'm barely getting any power, I've got some from killing captains, but it's not much...
BrassDragon
Member
All those Nemesis-generated missions with red map icons give Power.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Ah, excellent. I haven't tackled many of those yet.
Thanks. Time to dive back in and deliver some justice...
ShinobiFist
Banned
So my buddy was telling me how much he was enjoying Battlefield last night in front of Papaya Hotdog by NYU in NYC(the free copy from Gold)And then, out of no where a drunk Puerto Rican was like "yo, you playing BF? Yo, get Shadow! I only played that shit for an hour son, is fucking fire my dude!, that shit is no joke, my ninja. Get that my gee. Greatest game ever. And that was only a hour my ninja. I swear to my moms*kisses the sky* Game is the truth." I was on the fence about this, and a lot of my friends were feeling the same as well. But that drunk PR dude convince me and my buddies to get it, lol.
Well yeah, but with the chance for an epic rune it can take more then one try.
Impeccable
Member
Finally put a bit of time in after buying this yesterday and boy is it fun.
Doing mainly story missions so far, as suggested and just got Ratbag to
and I'm loving this. Never played a batman game before so it's all brand new to me.
Died once to a spear guy and saw him get promoted - his time will come.
Also died three times on
but it was a mission so I didn't care too much since reload seemed snappy.
So far the GAF hype is living up to it's intensity.
Doing mainly story missions so far, as suggested and just got Ratbag to
Warchief
Died once to a spear guy and saw him get promoted - his time will come.
Also died three times on
killing Mogg to make Ratbag warchief.
So far the GAF hype is living up to it's intensity.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Having multiple captains show up gets old, fast. Battles become a chore, not fun. I'm disappointed with the game. Gonna put a couple more hours in today, though.I'm not far into the game, haven't done the 2nd story mission, and I was doing a side mission in one of the keeps. An enemy alerted the guards, 2 Captains came with a bunch of enemies. I killed them all. >
Was so fucking epic.
thefatness16
Banned
Finally completed the game.
I think I pretty much broke the game though, once I got a rune that gave me health for draining enemies. That plus combat drain, plus double take downs equaled my health never going down past one or two hits and a constant stream of allies. I seriously don't think I ever died once I got to Numen.
If I play it once more, I'll try not to break it again. Still had fun though.
I think I pretty much broke the game though, once I got a rune that gave me health for draining enemies. That plus combat drain, plus double take downs equaled my health never going down past one or two hits and a constant stream of allies. I seriously don't think I ever died once I got to Numen.
If I play it once more, I'll try not to break it again. Still had fun though.
Audioboxer
Member
Man this game is awesome. Going to take that point above to focus on story though as I've been sidetracked for the past hour.
Died 3 times. I was strolling around and bam a captain appears, doing okay against him and then one of my nemesis' comes running in to help, so two captains! The first one ran away scared though, and I managed to kill my nemesis.
Died 3 times. I was strolling around and bam a captain appears, doing okay against him and then one of my nemesis' comes running in to help, so two captains! The first one ran away scared though, and I managed to kill my nemesis.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
In fights vs groups of enemies all you do is keep pressing X and then Y when the prompt shows up. Sometimes after a bunch of X's you use Wraith Stun. Incredible combat. I'm not understanding where this is coming from. You can literally fight with one hand vs a big group because he'll automatically go to the closest monster, so you can just use your right hand and keep pressing X and Y.
"But you can also use the bow, you can grab, you can execute, you can use the wraith stun, blah blah"... whatever. I'm feeling dismayed.
BrassDragon
Member
Wait, what? Have you actually fought Defenders and Archers and multiple Captains yet?
I'm not saying this game is Super Meat Boy but let's not get into hyperbole here: many players find it plenty challenging.
Not to mention berserkers or not-wargs. Again, i've only died a handful of times (usually to poison ranged enemies) but talk about hyperbole.
I must have bad luck then. In the first couple of hours I'd have 5 damn captains show up mid fight
the higher the orcs ranks are that you kill, better the runes they leave behind.
Audioboxer
Member
A system which is fairly easy to use can still be gratifying, and challenging if coupled well with other mechanics. Even just the gore levels the game goes to can make simple button pushes satisfying for the player.
Not to mention it can become a bit more tactical when you get overrun and when more complex captains join in.
I think some people will get a bit carried away on the hype train, but this game certainly does combat right for what the overall gameplay mechanics need to be to make everything tick.
Not to mention it can become a bit more tactical when you get overrun and when more complex captains join in.
I think some people will get a bit carried away on the hype train, but this game certainly does combat right for what the overall gameplay mechanics need to be to make everything tick.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
It's challenging, lengthy, and feels like a chore, not fun. Yes, I know about doing the Flurry thing vs. Berserkers. Combat takes so damn long.
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