Blackace
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Morse is going to be 31
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MLB '12-'13 OffSeason OT: Magic is the New Market Inefficiency
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Morse is going to be 31
Right. Morse is old and about to be a free agent. So if he walks the Mariners get nothing. If they want to get something back for him they have to make a qualifying offer of $14 MILLION to him. Do you really want to possibly pay 32 year old Mike Morse $14 million to be a below average first baseman?
Or we could've kept Jaso and paid him peanuts to be an above average player for the next 3 years.
Things that make me depressed:
ZiPS projects a .336 wOBA for Morse, in the NL.
Jaso, career wOBA (ZiPS for Seattle isn’t out yet), in the AL is .337
Or we could've kept Jaso and paid him peanuts to be an above average player for the next 3 years.
Things that make me depressed:
ZiPS projects a .336 wOBA for Morse, in the NL.
Jaso, career wOBA (ZiPS for Seattle isn’t out yet), in the AL is .337
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
31 is not OLD by any stretch and he clears up salary if he walks.
He's on the wrong side of 30 for a team that is a few years away from really competing. Why trade a cost controlled asset for something of no value?
More depressing stuff:
Horacio Ramirez 0.2 WAR in 20 games with the Mariners
Mike Morse 0.3 WAR in 102 games last season.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
The bottom line is they want power. now. I don't really like the move but I can see how come it happened
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
true true
They want some people who can hit HR's so they can show that moving in the fences was beneficial to give Jack Z more bargaining power for an extension.
"SEE. THE WALLS DID HELP, I NEED MORE TIME TO CONVINCE SLUGGERS TO COME HERE."
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Well we did put up the money for Josh and completed a trade for Upton but neither netted us a slugger.
We have been wanting HR hitters for about 8 or 9 years now..
I know.
And people mad at trading Jaso ... it's not like we gave up shit to get him. Josh Lueke. A Rapist is all we gave up.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Lol at extending Matt Harrison.
MonkeyDKenshin
Neo Member
He's certainly desperate, but I don't think a completely nonsensical trade like this makes any sense. If they would've dangled Jaso on the block they probably could've gotten a good prospect or two for when they're actually ready to compete. Now is not the time for a 1 year DH.
MonkeyDKenshin
Neo Member
Stick him at DH and that goes way up. Unfortunately I see the Mariners giving him way more days in the OF than they should.
Look at it in Jack Z's perspective. It is when you're trying to save your job!
Not that I agree with it.
But I really don't care Jaso is gone and Morse is a Mariner all that much. Just kind of "meh" to the trade.
Also in 1 year ... if Morse walks ... we have Zunino in Jaso's place anyway. So whatever.
Montero's OPS is .200 points higher when he catches!
Mr. Enigma
Member
Rangers give 5-year, $55 million extension to Matt Harrison.
Jack has gone full Dayton. You should never go full Dayton.
Mr. Enigma
Member
An era in Atlanta is over. Peter Moylan, who has played for the Braves since 2006, has signed a minor league deal with the Dodgers.
HarryDemeanor
Member
More pitchers! Woooooooo!
Morse was fun to watch... mainly because he was given the chance to play everyday a couple years ago and managed to run away with the opportunity. It's unfortunate that it had to be this type of situation but chances of winning trumps everything.
I've always enjoyed singing Take On Me at the park as well. Morse Take On Me
I've always enjoyed singing Take On Me at the park as well. Morse Take On Me
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
US provisional roster.
Catcher: JP Arencibia, Jonathan Lucroy, Joe Mauer
First Base: Mark Teixeira
Second Base: Brandon Phillips
Shortstop: Jimmy Rollins
Third Base: David Wright
Utility: Willie Bloomquist, Ben Zobrist
Outfield: Ryan Braun, Adam Jones, Giancarlo Stanton, Shane Victorino
Starting Pitcher: RA Dickey, Derek Holland, Kris Medlen, Ryan Vogelsong
Relief Pitcher: Jeremy Affeldt, Heath Bell, Mitchell Boggs, Steve Cishek, Tim Collins, Luke Gregerson, Craig Kimbrel, Chris Perez, Glen Perkins, Vinnie Pestano
Catcher: JP Arencibia, Jonathan Lucroy, Joe Mauer
First Base: Mark Teixeira
Second Base: Brandon Phillips
Shortstop: Jimmy Rollins
Third Base: David Wright
Utility: Willie Bloomquist, Ben Zobrist
Outfield: Ryan Braun, Adam Jones, Giancarlo Stanton, Shane Victorino
Starting Pitcher: RA Dickey, Derek Holland, Kris Medlen, Ryan Vogelsong
Relief Pitcher: Jeremy Affeldt, Heath Bell, Mitchell Boggs, Steve Cishek, Tim Collins, Luke Gregerson, Craig Kimbrel, Chris Perez, Glen Perkins, Vinnie Pestano
LyleLanley
Banned
JonHeymanCBS said:
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Yeah his hip injury cost him big time.
Future PhaZe
Member
Sad to see beastmode go, but he just wasn't going to be happy with his role this year and our FO said we wouldn't make a deal to just make one, so I have to believe they saw some potential in the prospect we picked up.
AJ Cole is a beast. I was sad to see him go in the Gio deal. Glad we have him back. I feel like he'll be a #2-#3 for us in a few years. I don't know much about Blake Treinen except that he can throw 92-94 and can reach 96. I wonder what the third guy is.
I'm excited to see Mauer & Perkins.
The Frankman
Banned
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That's the best the US could do? Really?
smh at these players not wanting to go rep their country.
The Starting Pitching staff and Infield (except 3rd base) isn't great. I think everywhere else looks pretty strong.
Jaso has ONE good year in which he is basically only used against RHPs and everyone is up in arms that he got traded. The guy couldn't throw any baserunner out and basically sucked at catching baseballs as well .... doesn't matter if you're at a premium position when you can't play at it.
That could have been his career year in 2012 and I bet his numbers don't approach what they were last season.
Zunino would of made him useless next season or possibly even as early as June of 2013 anyway.
Maybe the M's will pick up Kottaras somehow or trade for Salty ... Kottaras and Jaso pre 2012 are basically the same person.
That could have been his career year in 2012 and I bet his numbers don't approach what they were last season.
Zunino would of made him useless next season or possibly even as early as June of 2013 anyway.
Maybe the M's will pick up Kottaras somehow or trade for Salty ... Kottaras and Jaso pre 2012 are basically the same person.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Schilling is officially selling his blood-stained sock. Dude needs cash.
I hope it gets sold to a lab for testing purposes.
They can finally determine what brand of ketchup he used.
Exactly. We can finally expose him as the dirty ketchup fiend we always knew he was.
BigJonsson
Member
Reyes got the jersey on without problems, unlike RA Dickey lol
BigJonsson
Member
You know, I think Reyes is happy to be in Toronto with Bautista and Encarnaction, and playing the same place that Tony Fernandez played
BigJonsson
Member
Mr. Enigma
Member
Napoli's hip really must be fucked up to go from a 3-year, $39 million deal to a 1-year, $5 million deal. Good job by the Red Sox for not giving in on that.
It's really an incredible deal. We need someone at first. I'm not really a fan of his, so nice rental.
Mr. Enigma
Member
I wonder how much Napoli would have made if he had become a free agent after 2011. Probably would have gotten over $100 million (based on the Mauer deal).