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MLB '12-'13 OffSeason OT: Magic is the New Market Inefficiency

Fenix

Member
What a piece of shit Loria is. Not that it's surprising.

Also: "@LangoschMLB: Oscar Taveras brought up possibility of playing in WBC (for Canada); however, #STLCards have not yet been consulted for their recommendation"

Come on Cards, let him play!
 

aFIGurANT

Member
Man how seriously is this thing supposed to be taken again? When the WBC roster for Canada is still lacking players that are supposed to be amazing and everything all of two weeks before the first game it's hard to be hyped. I was cheering for USA of course but when people are adding/dropping every week it's hard to follow.

As far as OT goes, do not let him play unless he's going to be pampered imo - definitely Jaime Garcia was convinced to not get ready for it and the same is probably true here, if you're a Cards fan.
 

RBH

Member
MIAMI -- The list was written in April, in the hand of Biogenesis of America clinic founder Anthony Bosch. Among the names is the Milwaukee Brewers' Ryan Braun, and to the right of that name is a figure: $1,500.

That list, a source familiar with Bosch's operation told "Outside the Lines," indicates that those players received performance-enhancing drugs from Bosch, and owed him money. The document, one of dozens obtained by "Outside the Lines," suggests a closer link to Bosch and the now-shuttered clinic he ran in Coral Gables, Fla., than Braun has acknowledged.

The list is not definitive proof that Braun either received or used PEDs -- either would be a suspendable offense under Major League Baseball policy -- but may draw him more squarely into the spotlight as the league investigates the scandal and tries to draw the interest of law enforcement.

The Brewers outfielder was first connected to Bosch in a Yahoo! Sports report last week -- citing a different document -- that did not connect his name to drugs. Braun explained the report by saying he had consulted with Bosch during his successful appeal of a positive drug test a year ago. Why he consulted with Bosch, who is not a physician but presents himself as one, has not been made clear.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...inked-major-league-baseball-ped-investigation
 

Talon

Member
Reports coming out that Braun bought something from Bosch for $1,500. So looks like he's a big fat liar!
The list was written in April, in the hand of Biogenesis of America clinic founder Anthony Bosch. Among the names is the Milwaukee Brewers' Ryan Braun, and to the right of that name is a figure: $1,500.

That list, a source familiar with Bosch's operation told "Outside the Lines," indicates that those players received performance-enhancing drugs from Bosch, and owed him money. The document, one of dozens obtained by "Outside the Lines," suggests a closer link to Bosch and the now-shuttered clinic he ran in Coral Gables, Fla., than Braun has acknowledged.

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But a source familiar with the documents obtained by "Outside the Lines" said the list with Braun's name, which also includes New York Yankees Alex Rodriguez and Francisco Cervelli and Toronto's Melky Cabrera, was a list of players who received PEDs, and that there is "no other reason to be on that paper."

One of the documents shows plus signs next to the players' names, which are circled for players who paid their fees, a source said. Braun's $1,500 fee is marked as being unpaid. Braun's name appears on another list of player names, dollar amounts and dates but is not included in the listing; rather, his name is at the bottom of the page under a line with "Expenses" written on it.

Link
Has NOBODY seen Casino?
 

eznark

Banned
He got off on a technicality. Apparently people close to the situation know that there was no doubt he got caught.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/ryan-braun-got-off-on-a-technicality-bull/

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It can look as bad as possible for the players named in the report. But without anyone with subpoena power investigating this, Major League Baseball has nowhere to go to get any additional information about this stuff, let alone enough to serve as the basis for discipline of the named players.


http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...enesis/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

lol
 

Enron

Banned
That's my question too...there was the league that had four spots a week ago that's like the mainstream league and then the one the brilliantly named Trust in Realignment won last year. Enron was the commissioner and whatnot? I'd start it if he/someone else didn't want to this year....

I'll restart that one tonight. All you former NeoGAF Rejects, keep an eye on those inboxes.
 

bjb

Banned
Ryan "HGH" Braun is clearly a cheat and cannot perform with the use of PED's and other miscellaneous substances.

Hopefully it's only a matter of time before he's suspended indefinitely and forced to give back the MVP he stole from Matt Kemp.
 
Ryan "HGH" Braun is clearly a cheat and cannot perform with the use of PED's and other miscellaneous substances.

Hopefully it's only a matter of time before he's suspended indefinitely and forced to give back the MVP he stole from Matt Kemp.

And when we find out Kemp is on roids, what then? To whom shall we give the award?
 

bjb

Banned
Nobody can prove Kemp is on PED's. It's certainly possible, but as far as we know he's clean.

Braun on the other hand is a cheat who's already been caught. In addition to his name being linked to other suspicious activities. I really hope MLB steps up the plate and bans this joker. He's embarrassing himself and the game.
 
The Nationals have avoided arbitration with Jordan Zimmermann, agreeing on a 1-year deal for a currently-unknown amount. Zimmermann filed for $5.8 million while the Nationals countered with $4.6 million. It's likely they settled somewhere around the $5.2 million midpoint.

The only two remaining arbitration cases are Clayton Richard (Padres) and Homer Bailey (Reds).
 

Madtown_

Member
Ryan "HGH" Braun is clearly a cheat and cannot perform with the use of PED's and other miscellaneous substances.
Yes, he clearly can (if he's guilty).

Nobody can prove Kemp is on PED's. It's certainly possible, but as far as we know he's clean.

Braun on the other hand is a cheat who's already been caught. In addition to his name being linked to other suspicious activities. I really hope MLB steps up the plate and bans this joker. He's embarrassing himself and the game.
MLB brought this on themselves with the way they handled this in the past, this isn't on Braun. For example, in the NFL steroids cases are no big deal (though I'd be willing to guess a higher % cheat in the NFL), and they don't give a shit about testing..and when the media finds a PED user, it's no big deal. In baseball, we've got writers making accusations based off of scraps out of some rogue notebook. It's insane.
 

zulux21

Member
So, there's this

Astros are projected to have a .4% chance of making the postseason.

I find it odd that the tigers are favorites to win the WS by such a large margin over other teams (3% more over second most likely)

when they aren't projected to win many more games than other teams even though the division they are in is projected to be one of the weakest.

it doesn't matter anyways... tigers will win only 80 games and the white sox 90 and the tigers won't even make the playoffs so yeah >.>;

go sox

I know the tigers on paper are way more likely to win 90 games than the white sox
 

CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
I feel like I've been underestimating the Dodgers for this season. If Kemp stays healthy, they could have a very good team.
 
The Orioles finally signed Jair Jurrjens......to a minor league deal.

Jurrjens had originally agreed to a 1-year, $1.5 million deal with $4 million worth of incentives, but something in his physical frightened the Orioles enough to downgrade their offer to a minor league deal.
 

alstein

Member
The Orioles finally signed Jair Jurrjens......to a minor league deal.

Jurrjens had originally agreed to a 1-year, $1.5 million deal with $4 million worth of incentives, but something in his physical frightened the Orioles enough to downgrade their offer to a minor league deal.

Probably more than 1 something. His arm is ok, it's everything else of his that is messed up. Real shame, because he is one of the good guys and I hope he gets healthy enough to have another good year.
 

Syrinx

Member
They are going to play 18 games against the Marlins.

Yeah but they lose the six or so games they play against Houston.

Though now that I think about it, the Mets have struggled with the Astros the last couple of years.

Edit:

All teams are being regressed towards .500 there, just FYI.

I'm...not sure what that means. Does it mean they don't predict anyone to have wildly good or bad years, like 100 wins/losses?

Either way, still too optimistic for me.
 
Buster Olney is reporting that if both Juan Francisco and Chris Johnson struggle during spring training, "there will be a serious conversation" about Chipper Jones playing 3B for the Braves in 2013.

Supposedly, the reason the Braves have been saving around $10 million this offseason is for this scenario.
 

CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
Yeah but they lose the six or so games they play against Houston.

Though now that I think about it, the Mets have struggled with the Astros the last couple of years.

Edit:



I'm...not sure what that means. Does it mean they don't predict anyone to have wildly good or bad years, like 100 wins/losses?

Either way, still too optimistic for me.

That's pretty much it. They're being weighted towards an average performance.

Buster Olney is reporting that if both Juan Francisco and Chris Johnson struggle during spring training, "there will be a serious conversation" about Chipper Jones playing 3B for the Braves in 2013.

Supposedly, the reason the Braves have been saving around $10 million this offseason is for this scenario.
Total bullshit.
 

RBH

Member
Buster Olney is reporting that if both Juan Francisco and Chris Johnson struggle during spring training, "there will be a serious conversation" about Chipper Jones playing 3B for the Braves in 2013.

Supposedly, the reason the Braves have been saving around $10 million this offseason is for this scenario.

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RBH

Member
The following 40-man roster players have less than five years service time and are out of minor league options. That means they must clear waivers before being sent to the minors. I've included players on multiyear deals. This list was compiled through MLBTR's sources.



Angels

Bobby Cassevah, Ernesto Frieri, Kevin Jepsen, Brad Mills, Jerome Williams

Astros

Chris Carter, Tyler Greene, Lucas Harrell, Phil Humber, Fernando Martinez, Justin Maxwell, Wesley Wright

Athletics

Daric Barton, Travis Blackley, Jerry Blevins, Josh Donaldson, Brandon Moss, Pat Neshek, Chris Resop, Adam Rosales

Blue Jays

Emilio Bonifacio, Brett Cecil, Jeremy Jeffress, Luis Perez, Esmil Rogers, Sergio Santos

Braves

Juan Francisco, Cristhian Martinez, Ramiro Pena, Jordan Schafer, Anthony Varvaro

Brewers

Jeff Bianchi, Mat Gamel, Chris Narveson, Mark Rogers

Cardinals

None

Cubs

Michael Bowden, Welington Castillo, Rafael Dolis, Jeff Samardzija, Luis Valbuena, Travis Wood

Diamondbacks

None

Dodgers

Scott Elbert, Ronald Belisario, A.J. Ellis

Giants

Conor Gillaspie, Joaquin Arias, Gregor Blanco, Yusmeiro Petit, Jose Mijares

Indians

Ezequiel Carrera, David Huff

Mariners

Josh Kinney, Robert Andino, Casper Wells, Mike Carp (designated for assignment 2-12-13)

Marlins

Mike Dunn, Gorkys Hernandez, Wade LeBlanc, Justin Ruggiano

Mets

Brandon Hicks

Nationals

Roger Bernadina, Tyler Clippard, Ross Detwiler, Henry Rodriguez, Carlos Rivero

Orioles

Chris Davis, Jim Johnson, Troy Patton, Nolan Reimold, Pedro Strop, Taylor Teagarden, Tommy Hunter, Chris Tillman

Padres

Cameron Maybin, Eric Stults, Joe Thatcher, Dale Thayer

Phillies

John Mayberry, Kevin Frandsen

Pirates

Jeanmar Gomez, Chris Leroux, James McDonald, Mark Melancon, Charlie Morton, Garrett Jones, Travis Snider, Jose Tabata

Rangers

Julio Borbon, Michael Kirkman

Rays

Jake McGee, Jeff Niemann, Jose Lobaton, Sam Fuld, Matt Joyce, Cesar Ramos

Red Sox

Felix Doubront, Andrew Miller, Franklin Morales, Clayton Mortensen, Pedro Ciriaco

Reds

Jose Arredondo, Homer Bailey, Jason Donald, Jack Hannahan, Xavier Paul, Alfredo Simon

Rockies

Carlos Gonzalez, Chris Nelson, Eric Young, Edgmer Escalona

Royals

Luke Hochevar, Luis Mendoza, Felipe Paulino, Juan Gutierrez, Guillermo Moscoso, Brett Hayes, George Kottaras, Jarrod Dyson, Elliot Johnson

Tigers

None

Twins

Trevor Plouffe, Josh Roenicke, Anthony Swarzak, Tim Wood

White Sox

Hector Gimenez, Leyson Septimo, Angel Sanchez

Yankees

Francisco Cervelli, Clay Rapada, Chris Stewart
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/02/out-of-options-2013.html
 

Sanjuro

Member
Buster Olney is reporting that if both Juan Francisco and Chris Johnson struggle during spring training, "there will be a serious conversation" about Chipper Jones playing 3B for the Braves in 2013.

Supposedly, the reason the Braves have been saving around $10 million this offseason is for this scenario.

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