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MLB 2016-2017 Offseason |OT| At Least Next Year is an Odd Numbered Year.
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CosmicQueso
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Silver Arrows
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That being said, the Astros seem to have a management group that knows of what it is doing, instead of throwing money at the wall and seeing what sticks like the teams I mentioned because they had a payroll bump.
Last year's Diamondbacks actually did not increase payroll at all last year compared to the year before, even with Greinke, because Kendrick is an idiot.
Silver Arrows
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That was contracts coming off the books, correct?
Yeah, most of it was big contract shedding, but a lot of that was also handled stupidly, like Bronson Arroyo + Touki Toussaint to the Braves. Opening up the pocketbooks for Greinke demands more than a $100M team salary, which the team still didn't do.
The lone bright spot was trading Aaron Hill for Jean Segura. That was a huge performance gain at a fraction of the salary.
Better them than us.
They also signed Eric Campbell. I never thought his days as a Met would come to an end.
yeah, they cleaned house on their foreign players, except for Messenger, who will continue to pitch amazing and get no run support.
CosmicQueso
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The absolute gold on twitter with the new Pads unis.
chicagocubsfan
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Gleybar Torres is kicking ass. Fun to see our former players doing well even if they are with another club. Yanks are gonna be awesome soon.
chicagocubsfan
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Twins sign Jason Castro, 3 years 24.5 million.
Mr. Enigma
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MLB Owners: Lockout possible if new CBA can't be reached
Ken Rosenthal reports the Union and the league are at an impasse on several matters. One of those matters is compensation for free agents. The owners agreed to completely ditch the idea of draft pick compensation for leaving free agents but only if an international draft is instituted. The Union is not behind the idea of such a draft.
The other issues are related to Luxury Tax and the Joint Drug Agreement.
Ken Rosenthal reports the Union and the league are at an impasse on several matters. One of those matters is compensation for free agents. The owners agreed to completely ditch the idea of draft pick compensation for leaving free agents but only if an international draft is instituted. The Union is not behind the idea of such a draft.
The other issues are related to Luxury Tax and the Joint Drug Agreement.
Silver Arrows
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I wonder how costly a lockout could be considering the somewhat 'malaise' the MLB is in. (How much of a malaise it is in, is dependent on your opinion on how good MLB is doing in terms of fan interest from millennials)
negotiating tactic. I dont expect a lockout. Owners and the Union still have 1994 fresh in their minds.
Cubs/Yanks world series is going to be dope.
I hope the union sticks to its guns and rejects an international draft.
Dominican Power
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Now's not the time to destroy all the good will baseball has built up.
Silver Arrows
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Exactly, especially after the numbers the Playoffs this year pulled.
CosmicQueso
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Mike Petriello writes article suggesting Cubs consider trading Schwarber for elite pitching. Twitter melts down, Cub fans saying Schwarber is a 50 HR guy they wouldn't trade for Trout.
LMAO
LMAO
Ninja Scooter
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I don't believe Schwarber is going to be able to play the field so if they can get an elite pitcher back that seems like a no brainer.
The absolute gold on twitter with the new Pads unis.
Just when it looked like they were embracing the brown/yellow.
Zero chance they trade him and he can play LF.
He will be ok in LF. I would entertain trading him for an elite player but it would take A LOT for the Cubs to consider trading him. They were super high on him, calling him untouchable, and that was before his performance in the World Series.
17 Seconds
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this again?
schwarber's defensive issues are massively overstated because he's fat and had a few particularly goofy looking plays in the NLCS last season. he was okay in left field last year, both statistically and to the naked eye.. is his value going to be hurt by some level of below average defense? yes, but he's not close to the disaster people like to say he is. it is easy to imagine his bat making up for his below average defense in a big way.
theo's entire strategy since joining the cubs has been to build around positional players and avoid betting on young pitchers to stay healthy/good. if they're going to trade schwarber for a pitcher, it would have to be an exceptional value. i just don't see it.
CosmicQueso
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I just found it amusing how many people on twitter are saying they wouldn't trade Schwarber for Mike stinking Trout.
HarryDemeanor
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I would trade Andre Ethier for Mike Trout.
Who says no?
Who says no?
CosmicQueso
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
That deal is nuts. The secondary pieces are almost as interesting as the main cogs. Dipoto getting as much value as he could for a guy they should have traded 2 years ago
Purple Cheeto
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Taijuan Walker is broken and has a limited repertoire.
Ketel Marte is basically pre-BABIP inflation Jean Segura.
The bigger problem is now the Mariners need another starting pitcher and there aren't seemingly many available.
Ffffuck mariners what are you doing.
Hope they're willing to open their wallets to get some real starting pitching.
Frozenprince
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I don't really get this trade.
His below average defense was before his knee exploded which robbed him of his ability to continue to catch which mitigates a lot of his value as a guy you can "hide" behind the plate leaving him really only being able to play left.
His below average defense was before his knee exploded which robbed him of his ability to continue to catch which mitigates a lot of his value as a guy you can "hide" behind the plate leaving him really only being able to play left.
brianjones
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segura was a dodger killer.. won't miss him in the NL west
Purple Cheeto
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It's a very Jerry DiPoto move. They get a guy who they feel fills a potential immediate need (leadoff hitter/starting short stop) as well as add future depth in Curtis and Haniger. In return they give up two extremely flawed players that were over valued by the previous regime.
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he was never going to be a catcher. his defense sucked there. they were basically just doing their due diligence in 2015 by putting him behind the plate every once in a while to see how he was. he was always going to be a left fielder. the injury doesn't change his outlook, other than him missing a year of development.
Interesting trade. Segura / Walker will probably end up being a wash in terms of value and it will come down to the secondary pieces. Haniger looks interesting, may be a good one.
Also the dbacks rotation might be really good if everyone bounces back and pitches to their potential.
Also the dbacks rotation might be really good if everyone bounces back and pitches to their potential.
Yeah, the trade for me comes down to how Hangier turns out. Could be a good value pickup.
Silver Arrows
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Hey M's, give us James Paxton now.
Dmncnby2k9
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Dellin Betances will pitch for the DR in the WBC.
Dallas Kuechel and Brian Dozier eant to olay for USA.
New rule for the WBC will allow teams to have a list of 10 pitchers additional to the active 28 man roster. These pitchers can be added in later rounds and pitch for teams. For example. Kershaw can be on the list and not pitch for the US until the finals, when he's added to the active roster.
Dallas Kuechel and Brian Dozier eant to olay for USA.
New rule for the WBC will allow teams to have a list of 10 pitchers additional to the active 28 man roster. These pitchers can be added in later rounds and pitch for teams. For example. Kershaw can be on the list and not pitch for the US until the finals, when he's added to the active roster.
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