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MLB World Series 2015 |OT| Disrupting the time continuum
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Yes, but it will be overemphasized. Mets showed up tonight but it will still be 2-1 in the morning. Mets win game 4 and the momentum will have truly shifted completely.
Tragicomedy
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No. If they lost tonight the World Series was almost assuredly over. They had to win to stay alive and they will. That doesn't indicate a trend, and momentum in baseball is all but meaningless.
If the Mets take all three at home, it would be a huge deal.
Ninja Scooter
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There's no such thing as momentum, as evidenced by the Royals shellacking the Mets in game 2 and now getting shellacked themselves in game 3.
Momentum is tomorrow's pitcher .. So it's usually Mets.
Momentum is just broadcaster narrative fuel.
Frozenprince
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We probably have the biggest advantage in the series tomorrow. Chris Young is the definition of a just good enough pitcher. Matz has ridiculous potential, just needs to get right in the head.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
baxter2231
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Who the Royals hurler gonna be tomorrow they used Young quite a bit earlier
diffusionx
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RE: Chris Young, the Mets have also seen him already.
Frozenprince
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I just got home about 30 minutes ago.
Honestly Thor was dealing at the time, you just have to bet on his bat at that point, go with your starter while he still has it.
tiggerkiddo
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Momentum, heh? Does like homefield matter all that much in baseball? I know it does in football and basketball.
Frozenprince
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Not really no. Not unless your team is designed around the park, neither really is.
Tragicomedy
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There isn't. You are talking about individual players having hot out cold streaks.
Teams don't carry momentum from one win to the next. If the Mets score 15 runs tonight, tomorrow they are just as likely to score 2 or 6. Success in a game has little to no impact on success in the next game.
There are lots of statistical analysis articles that show momentum doesn't carry over past standard deviations.
I think it does in this series. You have a Royals team that is relentless in their attack. But in a NL park, there is a break with the pitcher batting.
PeregrinSe7en
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Ninja Scooter
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individual players can get hot/cold, streaky, ect.. but not teams. Again, if momentum for a team was a thing why are the Royals getting thumped two days after destroying the Mets? There is very little evidence of any sort of carry over.
Tragicomedy
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I believe home teams win 54% of the team, so the effect isn't very pronounced like in some leagues. There are exceptions like the Astros who were amazing at home and bad on the road.
There are some advantages in old school parks like Kauffman designed to limit homeruns, reward base hits in the gaps, and emphasis defensive play and speed. Our team was built with it in mind, and it helps them beat out power teams.
Then again, we hit more dingers that series than the Blue Jays, so I don't always know what to expect. Tonight we're getting out-Royaled by the Mets.
tiggerkiddo
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I wonder if such a strategy would work in a humidor less Coors...
I was simply saying it is a shift in momentum. They were red hot. If they played a game three in KC last night, it's more likely the Mets bats stay asleep.
Just like how the mets, murphy, etc. were RED HOT throughout the Cubs series and after 5 days of rest, they cooled off. To me that is a momentum change.
Yup, hopefully it's a sign of things to come on the home portion of this series. Probably should be considering the pitching matchup tomorrow.
Ninja Scooter
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There isn't really any evidence that this is how it works though. Like, if the Royals came out tomorrow night and hit the shit out the ball would anybody be surprised? The Mets weren't really "red hot", Murphy was. And Murphy could have cooled off because of the 5 days rest, or because the Royals pitchers figured him out, or maybe his hot streak just ended just like it does all the time during a regular season. The postseason is way too small of a sample size to really make any of these kinds of determinations.
Tragicomedy
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So if the Mets go ice cold tomorrow night, what is your explanation? Because they are just as likely to do that as not. KC was hitting everything the first two games, now they are in check. Tomorrow, they could go nuts.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
Alex Gordon will be a Met next year
Frozenprince
Banned
Ninja Scooter
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That's fine. "Momentum" as you probably see it though it just a way to explain what is really a flukey, unexplainable, unpredictable game. The best hitters in the world basically only get a hit 30% of the time. You can't bank on that.
Duane Cunningham
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Schattenjäger;183605234 said:
Riiiiight.
Frozenprince
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The Cubs have him reportedly as target #1, I'd be shocked if he wasn't there next year.
Tragicomedy
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More like you feel there is such a thing as momentum, statisticians have already proved there isn't. The very best teams lose a third of their games. The best hitters miss seven out of ten. You never know what you'll get from one night to the next.
UltimaPooh
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Mets earning their place tonight.
Told ya its not over till its over.
Told ya its not over till its over.
Don't worry we got Clippard and his thigh high change ups due up.
Tragicomedy
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I asked Clippard what he would be if he wasn't an MLB pitcher.
He replied, "A virgin."
He replied, "A virgin."
lazybones18
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he certainly getting laid tonight that's for sure
Duane Cunningham
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Those old guys can text???
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
I don't see them signing Cespedes even with the pressure to ..
Gordon will be a cheaper alternative
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