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Monitoring the situation in Iran

It's very rare to see this be a black person behind it in the US, barring firefights between gangs. Almost all the other times I've seen mass shootings in the US, they were done by white men.

Yeah, about one in five mass shooters are Black males, but you don't tend to hear that highlighted as much. More than half are white, and in almost every case the perpetrators are overwhelmingly male.

This is a great page: https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

It's sad that the second ranked mass shootings location is at schools.
 


Aren't those Italian flags?

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Attacks like this are what the European leaders are terrified of. Difficult to have a robust foreign policy when you've invited your enemies to move in with you and they have a knife to your throat.
 
Attacks like this are what the European leaders are terrified of. Difficult to have a robust foreign policy when you've invited your enemies to move in with you and they have a knife to your throat.

And now they have another exodus of refugees to deal with

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Attacks like this are what the European leaders are terrified of. Difficult to have a robust foreign policy when you've invited your enemies to move in with you and they have a knife to your throat.

It's fucking laughable how afraid they are of those 6.5% Muslims they have in society (UK).

When you do anything at all (national holidays etc.), god forbid you offend them.

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Oh nice. War. Good luck with your «war» against Iran. You do seem to only attack countries that have problems defending themselves. Maybe it is just a coincidence. But tell Israel not to bomb any other girl schools. Do no try to attack Norway and hands off our oil fund. See you at the World Cup. Okay, none of my business it is your war.
This regime has been flooding terrorists with weapons for decades, and they just massacred tens of thousands of thier own citizens for protesting. Iran's government fucked around, and now they are about to find out.
 
I'm certainly not trying to argue that western interventionism hasn't caused harm, but it's really not as easy as saying "if only they were left alone they would choose to build societies like ours." I think that's a naive way to approach global cultural differences. And democracy itself isn't always the bees knees, as plenty of examples have shown, so I'm not even sure it makes sense to view it through this lense.

Democracies require strong national identity, good education and a solid sense of comradary between citizens. They requires a level of transparency and accountability that doesn't always fit with pre-existing cultural values. And that's not to say those cultures are backwards or primitive, it's to say democracy may not be a universal solution.

The U.S. trying to forcefully impose democracy regardless of a country's particular circumstances is absolutely an unwise strategy, but that doesn't mean democracy is a natural outcome for every society.

Then why do you keep writing walls of text that contains tertiary information that we are both already well aware of and not focusing on the main point that I brought up? We both know the USA and UK overthrew the democratically chosen prime minister through shady practices and focused power on a person that was more aligned with foreign interests than domestic Iranian interests. We both know that one of the main drivers of the Iranian Revolution was the desire to return power to people who were focused on Iranian autonomy and cultural identity, and the most prominent figureheads of that goal were the Islamists because the USA and UK kicked out the previous Prime Minister (because of oil, of course) who was doing a decent job. They were stuck choosing what seemed like the lesser of two evils at the time, and that choice bit them in the ass for the next 50 years. Such is the case with authoritarians.

It is not unreasonable to assume that the sentiment that gave rise to the Iranian Revolution would never had arisen if the Western powers hadn't meddled in their affairs and the people were content with their representative democracy in the first place. I don't know why you keep making this an issue of Islamism at a baseline when it's primarily a problem of colonialism that then metastasized into Islamism. Religion is a powerful tool of the oppressor and the oppressed. Just look at Ireland and you can see many similar themes played out, just with different names.

I put your worldview up to a specific example, and it faltered. I'm not even saying your point of view is wrong, necessarily. It's incomplete.
 
Cant believe Europe got some lost balls back
What balls? When they thought that Iran is not fighting back and its air space is basically clean, they suddenly decided to join 🤷‍♂️

Then in 5-10 years they are going to talk about how imporant allies they were and that USA should be grateful for their help. Like UK allowed now to use the base Diego Garcia and such. Thank you, I guess.
 
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Then why do you keep writing walls of text that contains tertiary information that we are both already well aware of and not focusing on the main point that I brought up?
Because, as I've repeatedly tried to explain, your general conclusion does not necessarily follow from your premise. Your argument contains numerous hidden assumptions which you fail to acknowledge.

If you're aware of all the complexity which I tried to touch on, why do you keep coming back to such a simplistic world view?
It sounds more like bias to me. But you are free to disagree.

Religion is a powerful tool of the oppressor and the oppressed. Just look at Ireland and you can see many similar themes played out, just with different names.
I was referring to Ireland in my previous reply. I really don't know what this discussion is about anymore.

Perhaps I misunderstood you somewhere earlier, I thought you were trying to use Iran as a general argument about the spread of Islamism in all countries where it dominates today, and that requires studying individual cases in detail, not just looking at an apparent correlation and making a conjecture.

I put your worldview up to a specific example, and it faltered. I'm not even saying your point of view is wrong, necessarily. It's incomplete.
I think we're just misunderstanding each other at this point. Because I'm saying the same about yours.
 
CNN's Victor Blackwell is the kind of guy you wanna befriend as a white dude to show your friends you're not a racist but then you find out he's really into Sex and the City & hiking and your plans blow up in your face.
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Iranians are celebrating here, but sure don't let that disturb you. :D
Will that make anyone killed by imported Islamic terrorists in retaliation for attacking an Islamic regime any less dead?

Fear of 'domestic' terrorist action is a significant determinator of foreign policy for many European nations now, as so much of their population now has greater allegiance to the potential adversary of the nation's foreign policy than to the nation they reside within.
 
I think this is after the initial shooting already happened and they were already trying to take cover

Looks like the actual shooter is in the lower left and can see Police already responding
Given this is Texas more than likely a significant proportion of the crowd were carrying concealed and put that motherfucker down themselves. If this was an anti gun blue state the body count would prob have been much higher as the unarmed waited for police response.
 
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