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[daffyduck]

Your gas is about to get more expensive.

From the crash of cryptocurrency?

 

[jason10mm]

If it's such an easy military operation to open the Strait, why does the US not do it? US is already "there". Just another dot point on their list of "objectives" to tick off surely. No help needed has been stated ad nauseam.

Because they will smoke 100 people, 99 of whom are terrorists actively trying to blow up civilian cargo, but 1 is the wife of a terrorist, fully on board with his actions, and she'll be there cooking and cleaning for them and get blown up as well. But the media will pull her out of context and say the US is killing 'totally innocent iranians' and turn it into a huge PR incident.

 

[natjjohn]

Because they will smoke 100 people, 99 of whom are terrorists actively trying to blow up civilian cargo, but 1 is the wife of a terrorist, fully on board with his actions, and she'll be there cooking and cleaning for them and get blown up as well. But the media will pull her out of context and say the US is killing 'totally innocent iranians' and turn it into a huge PR incident.

This is fan fiction.

 

[jason10mm]

This is fan fiction.

Just like the mainstream media, yes.

 

[LQX]

Next couple of days will be interesting

Won't this fuck with their water? This seems like a huge escalation for a war that was "complete". Civilians are the ones that will suffer the most from this.

 

[BattleScar]

Because they will smoke 100 people, 99 of whom are terrorists actively trying to blow up civilian cargo, but 1 is the wife of a terrorist, fully on board with his actions, and she'll be there cooking and cleaning for them and get blown up as well. But the media will pull her out of context and say the US is killing 'totally innocent iranians' and turn it into a huge PR incident.

Extreme cope. You're claiming this cunt Trump of all people gives a single shit about PR? Lmao...

Won't this fuck with their water? This seems like a huge escalation for a war that was "complete". Civilians are the ones that will suffer the most from this.

Bold of you to assume that the Trump administration gives a single shit about the oppressed Iranian citizens.
We all know, that bombing a regime and leaving fixes absolutely zero problems, and succeeds only in breeding more zealots as their nation's infrastructure is torn to pieces. We've made this mistake how many times in the Middle East?

 

[EviLore]

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

 

[EviLore]

 

[jason10mm]

Aimed at what...exactly? So funny how "the west" is held to some impossibly high standard of precision but the other guys can just chuck hardware into the air, fingers crossed, and the press gives them a free pass on where it lands.

 

[SpongeMonster30]

Iran would rather face a physical death than a ideological one. This war will only be finished imo with a complete capitulation of Iran by American ground troops or something else major.

 

[ADiTAR]

yeah, I don't think Trump understands that they don't care about their people, they only want to survive this and cause terror. That's really the entire point.

He needs to escalate things now not wait.

 

[Bojji]

yeah, I don't think Trump understands that they don't care about their people, they only want to survive this and cause terror. That's really the entire point.

He needs to escalate things now not wait.

Yeah, this regime only cares about themselves.

So only two realistic options are on the table, make peace with them or totally destroy them (full on ground invasion)

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Because they will smoke 100 people, 99 of whom are terrorists actively trying to blow up civilian cargo, but 1 is the wife of a terrorist, fully on board with his actions, and she'll be there cooking and cleaning for them and get blown up as well. But the media will pull her out of context and say the US is killing 'totally innocent iranians' and turn it into a huge PR incident.

But the media has been doing this to Israel for decades, so why don't the US just let Israel take care of the problem? I don't know why the US has to be the ones doing it

 

[MisterFalcon]

Extreme cope. You're claiming this cunt Trump of all people gives a single shit about PR? Lmao...

Killing 150 children did very little to move the needle in the Trump base, they accepted any one of the stories, how it did not happen or Iran did it or they just put a school too close to their (possibly AI hallucinated) naval base.

See now also how threatening attacking civilian infrastructure is not terrorist anymore when Trump does it but Fuck Yeah America Gloves Are Off.

 

[calico]

A surprising and alarming amount of 'it's fine for Iran to have nuclear weapons' sentiment in this thread, considering their current terroristic position towards the strait. This is a tiny fraction of the leverage an Iran with nukes would have.

Relying on MAD and hoping for the best with Islamic terrorists is suicidally reckless as a policy to begin with, but most of Europe cannot even meet the 'mutually assured' part of this equation.

 

[MisterFalcon]

Iran's nuclear program was totally and utterly obliterated last year by the biggest bombs dropped by the most beautiful planes.

How can they have rebuilt decades of work so quickly to now be an imminent threat?

 

[balls of snow]

"blocakde of hormuz straight starts to affect semiconductor, medical image diagnosis, some agriculture fields and other industries, scientists warns that humanity soon would encounter with very hard difficulties, that humanity hasn't prepared."
that's my morning news, thanks Donald.

No matter how the war shakes out brace for impact. Im going on holiday to the Maldives early next month and am assuredly confident that the next time I can go on vacation on a reasonable budget is well into the next year if that.

The world energy shock is coming

The US and Israel's illegal attack on Iran will provoke a global economic catastrophe

www.newstatesman.com

 

[DenchDeckard]

Iran's nuclear program was totally and utterly obliterated last year by the biggest bombs dropped by the most beautiful planes.

How can they have rebuilt decades of work so quickly to now be an imminent threat?

This is what I don't understand. Wasn't it all completed in the middle of last year. They were so happy with their accomplishment. I'm a bit confused.

 

[Darius87]

This is what I don't understand. Wasn't it all completed in the middle of last year. They were so happy with their accomplishment. I'm a bit confused.

because every nation who attacks other nation always creates fake narratives that would give them legitimacy for attacking others.

 

[calico]

What do you think the secret 'real reason' for specifically attacking Iran's nuclear facilities was if it wasn't an attempt to debilitate their nuclear weapons program, as advertised?

If Iran then comes into negotiations bragging that it wasn't as effective as you thought and that they are actually still capable of quickly acquiring functional nuclear weapons, then you have to re-evaluate. Taking the risk of assuming Iran was only bullshitting for leverage was apparently not a risk the US administration was willing to live with.

 

[ADiTAR]

No matter how the war shakes out brace for impact. Im going on holiday to the Maldives early next month and am assuredly confident that the next time I can go on vacation on a reasonable budget is well into the next year if that.

The world energy shock is coming

The US and Israel's illegal attack on Iran will provoke a global economic catastrophe

www.newstatesman.com

Ugh, woe is me. A terrorist state butchering its own people are causing my vacation cost to go up. Ughhh

 

[DenchDeckard]

Ugh, woe is me. A terrorist state butchering its own people are causing my vacation cost to go up. Ughhh

Bro, we work our ass off day in and day out and I know for me I try to be a decent person every day. Why should we be struggling to live when we work our asses off in a western world.

If a country is killing its own people, that's horrific. Is that what you believe is why the US stepped in. To save Iran's own people from their government?

It's obviously all complicated but why did this war happen now. Why is the us saying it's not at war when it started this war?

I'm confused as much as many.

What are the strategic reasons that the US started this war?

 

[JerryinSoCal]

Though expensive initially going full off grid solar years ago was a great investment

Plus mainly driving EVs it also charges our vehicles (as we watch gas prices spike)

Been thinking about getting a hybrid, I don't want one that I have to plug in though because our complex only has 2 charging stations and the number of teslas in the parking lot has been growing steadily lol.

 

[Tams]

Killing 150 children did very little to move the needle in the Trump base, they accepted any one of the stories, how it did not happen or Iran did it or they just put a school too close to their (possibly AI hallucinated) naval base.

See now also how threatening attacking civilian infrastructure is not terrorist anymore when Trump does it but Fuck Yeah America Gloves Are Off.

Mate, the school was previously part of compound the IRGCN have their headquarters in.

Yes, sometimes intel is wrong, and sometimes even the best munitions aren't accurate enough.

It's the only major civilian casualty event caused by the US and Israel, which in a war is an expectionally low amount of collateral damage.

I assume you're just handwaving away Iran's far worse record of collateral damage in this war.

 

[balls of snow]

Ugh, woe is me. A terrorist state butchering its own people are causing my vacation cost to go up. Ughhh

Lol im suporting the iranians that are on socmed. Believe me I want to see that regime fall. For good.
However, doesnt change the fact that people less lucky than me are gonna feel the brunt of it in a couple of months. Both can be true.

 

[TheRaidenPT]

What do you think the secret 'real reason' for specifically attacking Iran's nuclear facilities was if it wasn't an attempt to debilitate their nuclear weapons program, as advertised?

If Iran then comes into negotiations bragging that it wasn't as effective as you thought and that they are actually still capable of quickly acquiring functional nuclear weapons, then you have to re-evaluate. Taking the risk of assuming Iran was only bullshitting for leverage was apparently not a risk the US administration was willing to live with.

Guess we are about to find out after the 48h end

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Been thinking about getting a hybrid, I don't want one that I have to plug in though because our complex only has 2 charging stations and the number of teslas in the parking lot has been growing steadily lol.

Plug in hybrids (PHEV) can also use a regular wall outlet (if you can park close enough to it) its just a much slower charge

Even total EVs can use a regular wall outlet it just will take a week to charge it

Our Jeep Wrangler 4XE only goes around 20 miles in all electric mode which is perfect for driving around town for us and we always plug it in a regular wall outlet to charge

When the main battery drains it then becomes a regular hybrid which is still decent on gas, for a Wrangler anyhow

 

[OccasionalPoster]

So trumps out this year, right?

 

[ADiTAR]

Lol im suporting the iranians that are on socmed. Believe me I want to see that regime fall. For good.
However, doesnt change the fact that people less lucky than me are gonna feel the brunt of it in a couple of months. Both can be true.

Not going to the Maldives one year is not the brunt.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So trumps out this year, right?

Our next election is Nov 2028

 

[balls of snow]

Not going to the Maldives one year is not the brunt.

And you figure my extended family and friends are as well off? The Prime Minister of my country is already on the verge of implementing work from home intiatives as well as online learning for schoolkids because of the incoming price increase on everything. Thats a canary in a coal mine warning of impending doom. Developing country here with no hope of influencing the superpowers one way or another.

 

[Elog]

I have zero love for the Iranian regime but this is a strategic fiasco of large proportions. I hope the US administration does the honorable thing by declaring victory and start to reduce activity - all other paths carry enormous risks with questionable upsides.

 

[poppabk]

What do you think the secret 'real reason' for specifically attacking Iran's nuclear facilities was if it wasn't an attempt to debilitate their nuclear weapons program, as advertised?

If Iran then comes into negotiations bragging that it wasn't as effective as you thought and that they are actually still capable of quickly acquiring functional nuclear weapons, then you have to re-evaluate. Taking the risk of assuming Iran was only bullshitting for leverage was apparently not a risk the US administration was willing to live with.

Which would make sense if we had a plan to finish the job, but other than a strike yesterday (at least as reported by Iran) their nuclear capabilities haven't been targeted.

 

[OccasionalPoster]

So trumps out this year, right?

Our next election is Nov 2028

Forceful removal

 

[Wildebeest]

So trumps out this year, right?

Probably not. You might even be lucky to get a new election in '28 the pace this is going.

 

[adamsapple]

The war's over, I guess ?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Forceful removal

I knew what you meant, doesn't change my answer

 

[DrFigs]

Forceful removal

He's in very poor heath, but otherwise, i think he is here to stay

The war's over, I guess ?

I wouldn't read into it. He is asking $200 billion in funding for the war, and just threatened to blow up Iran's power plants yesterday.

 

[FullMetalx117]

All this missiles firing around is getting old and turning into an expensive fireworks show. With all the cool mighty footage, hopefully we'll see some results at some point.

 

[Bojji]

All this missiles firing around is getting old and turning into an expensive fireworks show. With all the cool mighty footage, hopefully we'll see some results at some point.

You can see results at your local gas station!

I hope this conflicts ends as soon as possible...