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[Mr Fahrenheit]

Why do I see people hating on SnS online? It's so versatile. :l

*eats a mushroom in protest*

It's very low damage and if you don't have the right one for a fight or don't know how to use it then it's basically worthless. Even a complete idiot with a GS can do a level 3 charge every now and then and get some big damage, SnS doesn't have that luxury. One of my main hunting partners uses SnS and we tear ass together so a respect it plenty, but a lot of random SnS users can end up dead weight very easily.

 

[Kinsei]

Lol I think I phrased that question poorly, what I was asking was when village high rank ends and when village G rank starts

The answer to both of those questions is 10*. There are high rank and G rank quests in 10*.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

Well I hit the god damn grind wall already I need a Najarala beak and i'm 0/20 so far. This kind of shit is what stops me everytime I play this series.

I'm give it one more day before I break my cart in half and call it a day.

I just finished farming the Naj high rank set, what weapon are you using to break the face?

 

[Chuckpebble]

Technical question about elemental damage.

Say I'm fighting a Seltas, whose head is "20" weak to fire. I have a Long Sword (Wyvern Blade "Blood") that has 462 attack, 300 fire elemental.
So, I attack a Seltas head with this. Not counting the Seltas defense, what kind of bonus damage will I be doing? Is it, like, 300 * 20% as bonus damage (making it 60)?

(I'm a data guy so this stuff fascinates me. I'd totally make a damage calculator in excel if I had the formulas.)

Divide the elemental by 10 then multiply by .2, to get really technical, there's also a multiplier for sharpness.

Sharpness Multipliers
Raw Elem
0.50 0.25 red
0.75 0.50 orange
1.00 0.75 yellow
1.05 1.00 green
1.20 1.06 blue
1.32 1.12 white
1.44 1.20 purple

 

[QisTopTier]

There are people who can live without blocking?

LOL I do love me some lance though

by online do you mean in-game? Because I've never seen that kind of thing when I played online in past games. If 'online' you mean 'gamefaqs' it's because they are shitheads and always have been.

SnS might have had some issues in Tri where there were like 4 of them and they all sucked, but it's fine in games with a decent selection of gear. You won't win speed run competitions but you'll still kill it faster than a button mashing charge blade user who gets hit constantly.

A bit of both I've actually been kicked from a few rooms before even starting

It's very low damage and if you don't have the right one for a fight or don't know how to use it then it's basically worthless. Even a complete idiot with a GS can do a level 3 charge every now and then and get some big damage, SnS doesn't have that luxury. One of my main hunting partners uses SnS and we tear ass together so a respect it plenty, but a lot of random SnS users can end up dead weight very easily.

Yeah I have 3 different ones right now

 

[bennywhatever]

For anyone interested, here is a dang good guide on Light Bowgun use:
http://gaijinhunter.tumblr.com/post/78073627420/mh4-understanding-light-bowgun

Some cool info about damage numbers I didn't know about Rapid Fire shots.

■LBG feature 1: Rapid Fire

Each LBG has a few shots that are designated as ‘rapid fire’ shots (see info pane on weapon). Instead of firing a single shot, you will fire a string of several shots (at the price of only 1 bullet no less!). Each bullet is 30% weaker and it does leave you open longer.

Let’s say your LBG had a Thunder Shot on rapid fire. When you shoot it, 3 consecutive shots will be fired. The time it would take to fire these would be slightly longer than if you shot 2 individually. Since they are 70% their original strength, 3 shots = 210%. This is only slightly higher than 200% if you fired two shots, but you get them all at the price of only 1 shot. What this means is less reloading and more shots overall due to inventory limits, which equates to more damage.

Having LV2 normal on rapid fire is amazing and worth playing with. If you know how to target weak spots properly, being able to shoot several previse shots in a row can be a very powerful thing indeed. It also works really well if your LBG happens to have a status shot on rapid, you’ll be able to inflict status ailments faster and more often.

 

[Kane1345]

Gun Lance blocking ftw

 

[Not Spaceghost]

The answer to both of those questions is 10*. There are high rank and G rank quests in 10*.

Ahh okay then, thanks! I'm guessing the G-rank quests at 10* are locked behind Hunter Rank like the high rank quests in 6* village?

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

A bit of both I've actually been kicked from a few rooms before even starting

Only got kicked once after I asked to speak english. SnS is super fun in 4U.

Stylish Bomber:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFZxS4TQ7Y

 

[ferixdacat]

anyone have time to help me tackle the first gore magala urgent quest? trying to reach HR3.

48-1208-8253-8629

 

[tuffy]

For anyone interested, here is a dang good guide on Light Bowgun use:
http://gaijinhunter.tumblr.com/post/78073627420/mh4-understanding-light-bowgun

Some cool info about damage numbers I didn't know about Rapid Fire shots.

Add the Bonus Shot skill which tacks on another bullet and the damage for a whole barrage really starts to add up.

It's also worth noting that status and explosive shots are rapid-fired at full strength. That means a LBGer can often apply status effects or KOs faster than just about anybody, given a big enough opening.

 

[Mr Rivuz]

Yeah, camera movement is only four ways in MH (for some reason).

It's lame, but it's normal. It's basically a D-Pad replacement, not a stick, despite its name.

Okay, thanks. Too bad, this is a thing that really turns me off from trying ranged weapons, i feel too clunky aiming that way.
Well, now i know my n3ds's stick is just fine ^^

 

[Qurupeke]

Blue cutthroats are so annoying to obtain.

 

[bennywhatever]

Add the Bonus Shot skill which tacks on another bullet and the damage for a whole barrage really starts to add up.

It's also worth noting that status and explosive shots are rapid-fired at full strength. That means a LBGer can often apply status effects or KOs faster than just about anybody, given a big enough opening.

Oh yeah. I just got my first Rapid Fire Crag bowgun, and it's a part-breaking, knock-outing MACHINE.

 

[MrPanic]

If anyone feels like carrying hr3 powderstones around and other crappy gather quests, join me at 42-4687-0557-7640.

 

[QisTopTier]

Not to mention the superior opportunities to use items, such as team mate saving Lifepowders. And traps. And flashes (lol Rathalos).

Stylish bomber SnS users typically hold the fastest kill times. With a SnS hand picked for the fight, an assortment of flash bombs, sonic bombs, barrel bombs, traps and all sorts of other materials you can basically keep a monster totally stun locked while you just murder it.

Batman approved class

 

[Astral/H3X]

Only got kicked once after I asked to speak english. SnS is super fun in 4U.

Stylish Bomber:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFZxS4TQ7Y

I really need to get good at this sort of thing. But it looks so expensiiiiiivvvveeee.
Did not know you could roll dodge the bombs, and never thought of tossing a flash out from between the legs. Glad I saw this video.

 

[JimPanzer]

I really need to get good at this sort of thing. But it looks so expensiiiiiivvvveeee.
Did not know you could roll dodge the bombs, and never thought of tossing a flash out from between the legs. Glad I saw this video.

I think you need at least evade +1 to dodge through the bomb explosions

 

[QisTopTier]

I think you need at least evade +1 to dodge through the bomb explosions

Yup! Can't do it normally

 

[Astral/H3X]

I think you need at least evade +1 to dodge through the bomb explosions

I was noticing that he seems to have at least Evade +1, and Speed Setup. What armor is that, looks AWESOME.

Because right now I block too much. It's pretty much my answer to most things, I've gotten bad at dodging haha.

 

[Tom_Cody]

Blocking with SnS is in emergency only. Oh and DPS wise SB is probably faster than anything else.

SB?

Edit: Oh, stylish bomber.

 

[Anura]

So, I met a guy with a wide range +13, rapid fire +13, three slot tali and a G chrimson fatty bow. He was G1

Can't possibly be hacked. Nope, no way! Couldn't be!

 

[bobohoro]

Wait people actually block?

I wouldn't do it with SnS to be honest, but then I have no clue about that weapon in the first place. But CB and the Lances? Definitely. Guard Points with the CB are the best thing ever, I'm planning on building a guard armour around it and taking on anything head-on. Will be fun.

 

[Herb Alpert]

want to farm some gore?
41 3305 3924 9171 is the way to go. code is 0307

 

[deoee]

I need some Kut-Ku ears (3 to go!).

Have 2 Guild Quests for it
If you want to help me out:

Friendcode: 4528-0479-8181

Lobby - PIN 3333

 

[QisTopTier]

I wouldn't do it with SnS to be honest, but then I have no clue about that weapon in the first place. But CB and the Lances? Definitely. Guard Points with the CB are the best thing ever, I'm planning on building a guard armour around it and taking on anything head-on. Will be fun.

Yeah was referring to SnS. Lance blocking is really good

 

[FlyinJ]

For anyone interested, here is a dang good guide on Light Bowgun use:
http://gaijinhunter.tumblr.com/post/78073627420/mh4-understanding-light-bowgun

Some cool info about damage numbers I didn't know about Rapid Fire shots.

Is there a way to tell where the "weak spots" on the monsters are in-game? Is there any feedback or visual language to look for, or do you pretty much have to look each one up on the internet? That said, where is a good guide for monster weak spots?

 

[tuffy]

So, I met a guy with a wide range +13, rapid fire +13, three slot tali and a G chrimson fatty bow. He was G1

This is another reason I'm going to avoid playing online with randoms this time around.

 

[KiefbladeMaster]

Decided to go digital with this one, didn't think it'd be 20,000 blocks, haha. Had to clear up some space. I need to get a bigger SD card.

 

[Astral/H3X]

Yeah was referring to SnS. Lance blocking is really good

It's awesome for those attacks that you aren't good at dodging, and is especially great when it comes to blocking roars, tremors, and things of that nature. That's it's BEST use, but some people *like me* use it more frequently than others.

 

[Kinsei]

So, I met a guy with a wide range +13, rapid fire +13, three slot tali and a G chrimson fatty bow. He was G1

Can't possibly be hacked. Nope, no way! Couldn't be!

That's why I plan on only playing with gaffers.

Is there a way to tell where the "weak spots" on the monsters are in-game? Is there any feedback or visual language to look for, or do you pretty much have to look each one up on the internet? That said, where is a good guide for monster weak spots?

There will be more blood and a different sound effect when you hit a weak point.

 

[Garou]

Only got kicked once after I asked to speak english. SnS is super fun in 4U.

Stylish Bomber:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFZxS4TQ7Y

Cool! But the charm being used here (Handicraft +5, Attack +14, 2 Slots) will take ages to farm. I wonder if the skill-set is doable with different equipment.

 

[Wired All Wrong]

Don't even remember I was playing with but thanks for the games guys, that Tigrex/Zinogre game was hype.

Yeah, good games. I was 965.

Great hunts last night. You too Filth. Made some good progress from HR1 to HR3. The Tigrex/Zingore and Queen Seltas/Seltas fights were awesome. Really like how the Seltas work together and I'm happy to see that Zingore is still a badass. Too bad Nargacuga isn't in this one. Oh well, at least I can still get its armor.

 

[Valus]

Can anyone explain how the Hunt-A-Thon quests work in terms of wound rewards? I was doing the High Rank Tetsu hunt-a-thon and killed it six times, breaking its face each time and didn't get a single Tusk+ in the wound box. Only got like, one scale+ or something despite breaking stuff with each kill. I need two for the helmet.

Anyone know?

 

[Herb Alpert]

Decided to go digital with this one, didn't think it'd be 20,000 blocks, haha. Had to clear up some space. I need to get a bigger SD card.

This is the kind of game you want to have permanently on your system. I went digital too, and had to buy a new card.

I regret nothing.

 

[bennywhatever]

Is there a way to tell where the "weak spots" on the monsters are in-game? Is there any feedback or visual language to look for, or do you pretty much have to look each one up on the internet? That said, where is a good guide for monster weak spots?

Here is a good guide on "weak spots." The higher the number for the monster part, the weaker it is.
http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u/monster

For instance, Yian Garuga is a 50 with Water on his back, which is insane.

 

[SUPERJEM94]

I hope no one minds, but I'll take the Gore avatar. Thanks!

 

[Dice]

I'm starting to think I should have bought up that ice crystal when the merchant had it.

 

[Herb Alpert]

nobody ready for gore magala extermination program?
41 3305 3924 9171, code 0307.

I need those tails and plates to look cool.

 

[MrPanic]

All I wanted to say is, that powderstone quest in guild hr3, NEVER AGAIN!

 

[Shengar]

Seriously
Fighting Yian Garuga isn't fun at all. It's like I'm fighting its HR version when it is not.
Seriously those peck attack

All I wanted to say is, that powderstone quest in guild hr3, NEVER AGAIN!

I've done the HR version alone, twice

Spoiler

The money is good though, 100k zenny from that two run with Felyne Explorer since I got useless ancient shard weapon

 

[Coppanuva]

So, what monsters drop me a Monster Bone+? I just beat Gore Magala and I got 1 from him, but I need 2 more for the next weapon... hoping something a bit easier drops it (that or I'll have to help a bunch of HR2 and myself with the urgent sometime ).

 

[Mzo]

So, what monsters drop me a Monster Bone+? I just beat Gore Magala and I got 1 from him, but I need 2 more for the next weapon... hoping something a bit easier drops it (that or I'll have to help a bunch of HR2 and myself with the urgent sometime ).

http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u/item/monster-bone+

You can use that site and others for all your drop needs.

 

[ColossalLazy]

Seriously
Fighting Yian Garuga isn't fun at all. It's like I'm fighting its HR version when it is not.
Seriously those peck attack

That poison tail attack. So annoying.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Seltas <3

 

[Dice]

That Seltas asshole immediately flew out of the area 5 times in a row!

Are you not supposed to immediately chase it, so that it can settle down or something?

 

[Shengar]

That poison tail attack. So annoying.

I'm in no way gonna farm Garuga HR alone lol

 

[bennywhatever]

Seriously
Fighting Yian Garuga isn't fun at all. It's like I'm fighting its HR version when it is not.
Seriously those peck attack

I love the peck attack when he's exhausted, though. It's hilarious, and you get a ton of free shots in.

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

Cool! But the charm being used here (Handicraft +5, Attack +14, 2 Slots) will take ages to farm. I wonder if the skill-set is doable with different equipment.

Oh for sure. Even without SB, a good elemental SnS kills fast too. It's smeared off as a beginner weapon, but is actually a pro hunter one.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

I'm using the Insect Glaive, but its main draw is the jump/mount attack, and to me that is nothing more but a gimmick. :/

I love shooting the Kinsect though, and the upgrade process is refreshing too.