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Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate |OT| I Mounted It!
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Freaking Limit
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Complaining may be too effective. I just got 3 Seregious Lenses after complaining about what I would use them for. Now I have 5 of them in my box, rotting away.
Rub it in!
for guild quests, make expedition and you will get a quest depending on your performance, then you can registered the quest (start menu -> guild quests) and then you can go online to hunt with that quest, with each time the quest is completed you get better chances of rewards, but the monster also becomes increasingly difficult
the event quest you download them from the DLC section in the main menu.. then you chose them at the gathering hall
AmethystEnd
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Alright boys, show where your priorities lie.
Actually, putting those top 6 in order was rough.
mine were similar except i had co-op slightly higher.
Ah, I see. I have just been dying instead of using my items...that must explain why I only have a couple low rank quests and nothing from my G rank expeditions.
Yeah, pretty much.
AmethystEnd
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How could you? HOW?
sobsob
Hey man, when you have ten choices that are all pretty awesome, some have to be more or less awesome than others.
Also, I'm gonna be putting together a Dual Seregios OVER-AND-OVER-AND-OVER room in about 30 minutes.
Joining!
yea, i had trouble placing everything too.
but i'm suprised to see co-op so low on everyone's list so far, for me it's like the main draw of the series.
Would you like me to give you the Apex Seregios quest? Much easier to get rare things. Carved two lenses of him.
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AmethystEnd
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That would be fantastic, though hopefully it wouldn't destroy me/my team. I'm still in late high rank armor (about 600 total def with food).
Do you have the drive wystone? Otherwise you might have difficulty cutting through his apex state. Either way (unlike some) I don't find it a big deal if you don't have it so long as you use a wystone in general since anything helps him get him out of apex. Make a room and I'll join shortly.
-Alternis
Yeah I think I'll let the GS user smash them. Less room for error. Good to know that it's a powerful attack, though I thought that was a given.
SUPERJEM94
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I hope you still have a spot open!
Vire
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I was comparing the strong attack to the CB ultra not the regular charge so to me there is about the same about of error. For a GS user to pull that off he would have to aim just in front of the head from the side to get into the strong charge and then actually hit the monster with the sweeping slash attack that follows which would hit from the side as well as the front. The regular charge is 143 vs 149
The first 7 are all almost on the same level of importance for me when it comes to these games. Player movement, weapon variety, and lack of defined roles are definitely at the top though.
AmethystEnd
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And the CB Ultra really isn't that hard to aim. At the stage where you start thinking about stuff like that, hitting a non-moving target with it (and avoiding the backswing hit) should be a non-issue, really.
A GS user should use the draw charge though, not the super slam, for two reasons. 1) Reaps benefits of crit draw. 2) If the monster survives the smash, by the time they get up/yell, they are getting hit by the super slam + sweep.
Not to mention as others have said, if a tail needs to be cut or something needs to be smashed, the GS can easily snipe it.
TatteredHat
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About the same as yours, in all honesty I thought all the 10 points were important but having to rank them just meant that Story and Felynes ended up at the bottom since they're not part of the core gameplay.
Vire
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Does crit draw only work on the first attack or the first hit? Because yeah if so then I gave the GS extra charity and it would be even closer. In that case the Great Sword would do still do a respectable 1285. However as you can see it got even closer to the CB even in a best case scenario.
It works only on the draw attack.
Vire
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Ok my mistake then. Looks like the ultra is better in nearly every scenario then.
That was my #1, then it was weapon classes, crafting, armor skills, movesets. Ranking was not fun; I would have liked to rank each item on a 1-10 scale instead so they could see the components that work together.
The_Hitcher89
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How do you figure out the nuances of the damage when there is nothing showing how much numerical damage you're doing per attack?
Is it info taken from the gamefiles?
Is it info taken from the gamefiles?
Vire
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Japanese official strategy guides have the damage values for each move listed. They are called motion values.
http://gaijinhunter.tumblr.com/post/92814625497/mh4-understanding-motion-values
Check out this article if you would like to know more. You can figure out exactly how much damage you are doing per hit if you can stomach doing the math.
There are weird quirks though and exceptions to certain weapons though Like for example the greatsword charge is listed at 110 how ever with purple sharpness its really 143% because you get a sharpness multiplier with your charges. Its complicated.
Except scenarios when you need something broken. Or when monsters survive the attack. Do you really think the ultra does more than all 3 of the super attacks combined (assuming they survive)?
I didn't check your math but did you use Cera with your calculations? Buffed by Edgemaster, Crit Draw, Honed for Power, Power Charms, and food buff? I somehow doubt any charge blade ultra can beat that.
Vire
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Yes I did I used a 400 true raw which is impossible to get to without all that including might pills. The only advantage a Greatsword has is Crit draw which was included. A charge blade gets all of the rest as well its no advantage honing doesn't add any more true raw for one weapon or another its the exact same value after the weapon mod. In addition the charge blade ultra would do more damage if you used the bombing method I discussed. The great sword isn't any better at breaking things then the charge blade so I am not sure where you are getting that from. The CB also would knock out the monster giving you extra time to hit it.
This is why I just did the math for everyone people think by default that the GS crit draw charge is the best.
Cera is 320 true raw it is the exact same value for the cera CB and GS they are both 320 after class mod division ignoring the negative affinity so the rest would have to come from buffs. It might vary just a slight bit in actual practice depending on peoples weapons and food buffs but the point being was I used the same true raw to simply compare motion value to motion value since everyone is going to be using different weapons depending on the fight.
How could you? HOW?
sobsob
Keep in mind where they get most of their sales. The felynes aren't going anywhere.
AmethystEnd
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Farming dual seregios until everyone who needs something gets what they need. I need at least one lens, but preferably 2.
I've killed at least 10 of these today and no luck. Getting tired of him.
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Farming dual seregios until everyone who needs something gets what they need. I need at least one lens, but preferably 2.
I've killed at least 10 of these today and no luck. Getting tired of him.
ColossalLazy
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Oh now I returned from dinner but I took my time to watch the rest of a soccer game.
They were good hunts.
Edit: Gonna join you AmethystEnd
Noice this will helpfully sort out my minor issues from earlier.
Freaking Limit
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Good luck friend. I'm burned out on Seregios. Hopefully you get the lens soon.
toastyToast
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Great. Figuring out some of the names was a pain in the ass. Hopefully it hides DLC items that isn't it yet too.
Lady Siara
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Spent a while trying to find a Rival Clash room since I'm G1 and it was awful, carted twice. Unfortunately, I need to do that mission to get materials for the G rank armor I want to make so I'm in a weird position of needing to do this but getting two shot (sometimes one due to bleed).
Bleh.
Bleh.
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