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[ChorizoPicozo]

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[ShaiKhulud1989]

By the time those games will be revealed Xbox will be a whole different platform, but cope harder, Jez

 

[Unknown?]

End exclusivity let me play everything on PC.

End PC and let me play everything on my phone.

 

[Ulysses 31]

What was woke about Forspoken?

Dunno if it is woke according to my definition(containing intersectionality) since I didn't play it, but steamforum called it that and I found it funny.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

It could be true, it could be BS. With Jez it swings either way...which is why I tend to ignore them.

I still won't be surprised if FF XVI ends up on Xbox all things considering, and Black Myth Wukong already has an Xbox version on the way. So what else is there, Stellar Blade?

I don't know if he's trying to frame this as if first-party PS exclusives are coming to Xbox because not only would he not know anything about that, it'd be incredibly stupid of SIE to do any port that isn't a GAAS.

There's a quote from one of their articles today about Xbox bringing a whole lot more games to PlayStation:

The Outer Worlds 2 being announced for PlayStation was not a result of a game being delayed out of 2025 nor was it the result of Xbox or developer Obsidian needing a rapid cash injection. It was decided as a result of the "four Xbox games" previously slated to move to PlayStation having no material impact on active Xbox console users. Microsoft is taking this as a signal that people are happy where they are, and aren't willing to move platform on the basis of what the "other side" has access to.

If SIE were to considering porting a ton more games to Xbox due to similar thinking, they would be idiots. Microsoft at this point have nothing to lose; that's how badly Xbox is doing in the console market right now. The bottom is falling out from under them in real-time. Microsoft decimated Xbox's console market by prioritizing Day 1 on Steam four years ago and pushing a Game Pass-centric model.

PlayStation aren't in that position; they didn't ruin their B2P market and they haven't made everything Day 1 on Steam. But when it comes to their PC strategy, they've been flirting more erroneously in that regard, IMHO, and they could feel some impacts of that in a few years. But unless or until they do, they won't have a big crash out of PS sales, and I'd still argue they are better insulated against such even if they do, simply because of how strong the PS brand is these days in the console market. Still doesn't make it a smart idea, IJS they have a better buffer against consequence than Xbox did.

But the idea of SIE even entertaining treating Xbox like they do PC currently? That would be such a short-sighted mistake, I would expect tons of investors to heckle them at financial calls for years to come. Talk about extending a lifeline to a platform that is still technically your direct competitor. Microsoft had their chance to save Xbox and make it a relevant brand again in the console hardware market. They failed. Their new strategy is them accepting that and adjusting for their new reality.

If you're SIE, and you've got other companies like Nintendo or Valve eager to eat away at your market share in the gaming market as a whole (even if they are not direct competitors), they're in the same race as you are...why would you stop your run to help someone who's fallen get back up and hobble along? There are assistants on the track to help that person; you focus on you.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

Just saying anything to make people go .
'more Xbox exclusive going to PlayStation!
Most Xbox games coming to PlayStation!
Nothing is off limits. In fact All games coming to PlayStation!
Not enough? How about?
More PlayStation games coming to Xbox!
Dude is "JEZ" making shit up.

 

[//DEVIL//]

god knows how many hours he cried when he found out his favourite plastic box is no longer gonna have exclusives…

Dude trying so hard to do damage control it’s pathetic . Sounds end his misery and buy him a PlayStation

 

[Ainem Enamas]

He's talking about console exclusive titles and not necessarily 1st party games. Probably he means Silent Hill 2, Stellar Blade and stuff like that.

He doesn't mention that it's Playstation studio games.

He literally mentions Genshin Impact. It's just Xbox being late to the party as usual.

Would you be disappointed if a first party game be available on Xbox?

 

[SneakersSO]

Helldivers 2?

Nope. You're not gonna see SIE publish a title they own on Xbox. There is literally no upside in it for them.

This is in reference to 3rd party exclusives. Silent Hill 2 Remake, FF7R & XVI, etc.

I would love to take issue with his framing of why this is happening. Its far less to do with the pubs/devs feeling like theres actual money to be made in the ecosystem, and more to do with MS paying for ports and offering funds from the 3rd party GamePass fund (which until this year had an annual $1b budget) to get them to come over. Took a lot of convincing for MiHoYo to get Genshin over. Outside of the free money MS provides you for making the ports, theres no real profit to be made, especially if you're a premium game. Doubly so if you're not being included in GP. Where these devs are more interested and putting in the actual work to put out the port out of their own financial means is the work being done to get these titles onto the next Switch console.

Announcements like the ones hes mentioning are a funny thing. Often times, we think its a quick business turnaround, but typically these ports represent over a year of work, starting from the business negotiation between the platform holder and the publisher, to the actual technical work itself, to the ultimate marketing build-up/release, so these were fruits of negotiations that happened back when Xbox was still Xbox, and not so much Microsoft Gaming. Wish Jez would instead spend time talking about what the current prospects of 3rd party relations is towards the Xbox platform...

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

It's absolutely insane

Imagine being so petty that you hate on people for getting access to games you already enjoy. Gatekeeping isn’t a personality trait, it’s just sad.

The more people playing, the better the industry gets. Grow the fuck up

oh, not was I was talking about, you dummy.

i was taking about Jez corden who is always doing damage control, spin and PR speech for this company. He represents what is wrong with access media. and what is even worst, is that he sells himself as someone who works for the "people"

and now, what you wrote about gatekeeping/exclusives... Im sorry, but I have to be honest:

if putting games everywhere for more people to play, makes the industry better:

Why is Xbox in a worse position? Why are games that release everywhere failing just as much (if not more) than exclusives?

It's not like making your games more accesible is a guarantee of success and financial security.
I think you are missing the forest for the trees and need to understand that it is not about accessibility, but quality (regardless of exclusivity)... and of course marketing (which MS has failed as part of it's role as publisher).

 

[JaksGhost]

Lets leave Jezz in 2024.
Also this is the full quote from the Window Central article that this came from:

If things were truly as dire as people suggest, we'd see swaths of major AAA games skipping the platform — that simply isn't the case (for now). And in fact, we've seen games that were previously PlayStation exclusive come to Xbox to find new revenue streams. Genshin Impact and Death Stranding being two recent examples. If there was no business opportunity on Xbox, we simply wouldn't be seeing this happening, and sources suggest to me that even more unannounced and previously PlayStation-exclusive games are slated for Xbox in 2025 as well.

So everything is just speculative.

 

[noob smokes]

Ms: if u cant beat em give em all your games


Now sony do the same

 

[King Dazzar]

OK. Third party titles and timed exclusives come and go across all platforms. But its a smaller platform. Where all the gamers are encouraged not to buy games and subscribe instead. Where there's also a problematic Series S as a mandatory constraint. Leaves me wondering where there's anything beyond the norm here in reality.

This comes across as just noise to try and normalise Xbox proceeding full speed ahead with their own abandoning of first party exclusives and migration to third party only. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Nonehxc]

"...sources suggest to me that even more unannounced and previously PlayStation-exclusive games are slated for Xbox in 2025 as well,"

More PlayStation exclusives are coming to Xbox in 2025, it's claimed

More unannounced and previously PlayStation-exclusive games are slated for Xbox consoles in 2025 according to reliable Xbox insider Jez Corden.

www.altchar.com

Sauces.

He meant sauces.

He has been hugging the bottle tight since he realized his life's true love betrayed him by going multi.

Jez has been on a full on 'I don't know WTF is going on' trip since at least a year ago. I bet he was one of those cut off early from the program and, since this is his revenue stream and has to stay relevant for the revenue to stream into his pocket, he's flinging things against the wall all the time hoping now and then something sticks.

That said, I don't care if Sony's games swim to other beaches, good games are meant to be enjoyed by all.

So lets bless Xbros with the power of Concord.

 

[welshrat]

The only reason to care is if you thought less effort would be put into getting the max out of a game if it went multi. These days we know that's unlikely especially with the good studios. I would rather they went into as many devices as possible so the devs got more money and better games appear in the future. I give no shits about the platform.

 

[onQ123]

I'm the source

Post in thread 'Xbox will no longer have permanent console exclusives going forward according to Jez Corden' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...ccording-to-jez-corden.1678510/post-269912031

 

[GHG]

Please, don't all jump from the sinking ship.

Yet.

 

[Shrap]

This is such blatant misleading damage control to make it seem like PS is in the same position as Xbox. Especially after MS just made it clear they've all but given up on exclusives.

Let's be clear - Indiana Jones is definitely coming to Playstation but Astrobot is never coming to Xbox.

 

[BigLee74]

Not a port beg but please please please with a cherry on top and blow jobs guaranteed from our resident man-whores can we get the Uncharted collection?

 

[Sooner]

Would you be disappointed if a first party game be available on Xbox?

Yes

 

[PatientGamer]

Hard copium from longstanding Xbot Jez Corden.

If by 'exclusive' you mean 3rd-party games and Lego Horizon, then sure lol.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This is such blatant misleading damage control to make it seem like PS is in the same position as Xbox. Especially after MS just made it clear they've all but given up on exclusives.

Let's be clear - Indiana Jones is definitely coming to Playstation but Astrobot is never coming to Xbox.

It's so obvious. but there are a lot of salty people than now are screaming "exclusives bad".

 

[Astray]

FF16, Silent Hill 2, maybe Wukong.

There are a lot of 3rd party PS5 exclusives that can easily hit Xbox next year.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Yes

It would seriously affect how you felt about a game if you sat down to play it and think “man I would enjoy this so much more if other platforms didn’t get to play it?”

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Would you be disappointed if a first party game be available on Xbox?

I really don't care. Business wise i don't what Sony has to gain from that. They have a console with like 70M people playing on it vs Xbox that may or not be at 30M and then release many of these games on PC as well.

MS is trying to say everything is an Xbox and Sony would now release their stuff on...Xbox?

 

[Varteras]

Nope. You're not gonna see SIE publish a title they own on Xbox. There is literally no upside in it for them.

This is in reference to 3rd party exclusives. Silent Hill 2 Remake, FF7R & XVI, etc.

I would love to take issue with his framing of why this is happening. Its far less to do with the pubs/devs feeling like theres actual money to be made in the ecosystem, and more to do with MS paying for ports and offering funds from the 3rd party GamePass fund (which until this year had an annual $1b budget) to get them to come over. Took a lot of convincing for MiHoYo to get Genshin over. Outside of the free money MS provides you for making the ports, theres no real profit to be made, especially if you're a premium game. Doubly so if you're not being included in GP. Where these devs are more interested and putting in the actual work to put out the port out of their own financial means is the work being done to get these titles onto the next Switch console.

Announcements like the ones hes mentioning are a funny thing. Often times, we think its a quick business turnaround, but typically these ports represent over a year of work, starting from the business negotiation between the platform holder and the publisher, to the actual technical work itself, to the ultimate marketing build-up/release, so these were fruits of negotiations that happened back when Xbox was still Xbox, and not so much Microsoft Gaming. Wish Jez would instead spend time talking about what the current prospects of 3rd party relations is towards the Xbox platform...

In other words, this isn't a recent development, sudden shift, or change of pace. This is business as usual from 2023, or further back, between third parties and platform holders. Not indicative of the direction we're actually going.

 

[llien]

Poor Sony scraping for every cent.

Meanwhile Duckman (or whatever his name is) is having fun experimenting with woke agendas in Naughty Dog's Playstation exclusives.

 

[Moses85]

Who is buying Games on Xbox?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Hard copium from longstanding Xbot Jez Corden.

If by 'exclusive' you mean 3rd-party games and Lego Horizon, then sure lol.

For a Xbot as you put it, he didn’t even bother with Xbox 360 . From what I have heard from him on that cash till stream he does with the other guy, he seems more of a PC user.

He strikes me more of an emotionally immature person who is more about sustaining a relationship with the people at Microsoft for his own benefits than being some kind of Xbox zealot and will change narratives regardless of previous output to suit that.

What he chooses to say and the timing of it , once again today, gives himself away in terms of his mindset/motives.

If he’s ever in a situation where he has to find something else to blog and be unofficial PR for a living, I hope it’s not PlayStation or Nintendo. These types of people are simply in it for themselves and will happily gaslight others regardless what the truth is. A phoney.

The twat has played a minuscule part, along with others, in what Xbox now is because inflating ones ego by building corporate relationships was more important than being honest and having integrity.

He has none. Fuck all.

 

[skyfinch]

It's gonna be Gran Turismo Sport.

 

[Synastry]

It would seriously affect how you felt about a game if you sat down to play it and think “man I would enjoy this so much more if other platforms didn’t get to play it?”

In that case man I wish I could play Mario games on my PS5 more people to enjoy Mario games right.

Funny how this Jez guy only targets PlayStation games but not Nintendo I wonder way.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

In that case man I wish I could play Mario games on my PS5 more people to enjoy Mario games right.

Funny how this Jez guy only targets PlayStation games but not Nintendo I wonder way.

I agree with the sentiment but I dont care a lot for Nintendo games either but would love to see them on more platforms as well

 

[The Inventor]

Everything is a PS...?

 

[Jigsaah]

Yawn...

*Picks up the smallest pebble to toss at a fanboy's pinky toe from the sidelines to get the violence going already*

Fight or kiss...either way just wrap it up.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Lego Horizon. Hooray.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

Well hopefully I get more timed exclusives on PlayStation. Just got a new Warhammer game I had no idea existed because Xbox had it for a year. Crazy how invisible Xbox console exclusives are

 

[Astray]

In other words, this isn't a recent development, sudden shift, or change of pace. This is business as usual from 2023, or further back, between third parties and platform holders. Not indicative of the direction we're actually going.

I'm honestly interested in what GP inclusions we get next year. It's very intriguing looking at Xbox this gen, it's like a trainwreck that never ends.

Outside of the free money MS provides you for making the ports, theres no real profit to be made, especially if you're a premium game. Doubly so if you're not being included in GP.

So the 3P game is basically "get as much cash out of MS, make sure the port work happens as cheap as possible to get as close as possible to profitability by launch day?"

 

[HogIsland]

it was a major missed opportunity not to have Starfield for Playstation this year.

 

[TheCed]

That's how we save Concord.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Thread Title is misleading click bait. Thanks OP!

 

[nemiroff]

Funny how this Jez guy only targets PlayStation games

Cringe.

 

[Sooner]

It would seriously affect how you felt about a game if you sat down to play it and think “man I would enjoy this so much more if other platforms didn’t get to play it?”

The games I can play on one console, but not the other, is the single, biggest deciding factor in which consoles I purchase.

 

[mckmas8808]

I agree with the sentiment but I dont care a lot for Nintendo games either but would love to see them on more platforms as well

Funny enough, I don't want to see Nintendo games on other platforms. People just need to by a Switch or a Switch 2 next year. It's not "THAT" expensive.

 

[Painskiller]

Which games?

 

[adamsapple]

I can’t keep track of what’s what but wasn’t Death Stranding a PS exclusive for years?

What am I missing here that makes this one funny?

This is a legit question

Ahh ok gotcha

Edit - Thank you for the honest non fan war answer btw

Unless there is more to the quote that's not in the op, there's nothing funny and you're absolutely right.

It doesn't say anything about first party exclusives, games like death stranding, the bunch of Mana games were all console exclusives until ported recently.

And others that will soon finish their exclusivity periods like forspoopin and SH2 remake are also eligible.

 

[BbMajor7th]

Why does anyone listen to this clown? This time last year he was telling us XBOX exclusives would never show up on PS and he couldn't have been more embarrassingly wrong. He doesn't now anything - ignore him.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The games I can play on one console, but not the other, is the single, biggest deciding factor in which consoles I purchase.

That’s a totally different answer, of course pick the platform that has the games you want to play.

But the original question was if you sit down to play Astrobot 2 on your PS6 on launch day does it take away from your enjoyment of the game if Xbox players would also be playing it the same day because Sony went multi plat?

 

[ProtoByte]

So much hate in here over possible exclusives being played by more people..

It's killed the Xbox for all of us to see. Excuse us if we don't enjoy the idea of the death of our preferred platform.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Unless there is more to the quote that's not in the op, there's nothing funny and you're absolutely right.

It doesn't say anything about first party exclusives, games like death stranding, the bunch of Mana games were all console exclusives until ported recently.

And others that will soon finish their exclusivity periods like forspoopin and SH2 remake are also eligible.

It’s all splitting fine hairs with Death Stranding looking at timelines as it launched on PS4 in 2019 then already hit Windows in 2020 and within like a week of Kojima buying the DS rights it launched on Xbox so not really sure why this isn’t a good example of a PS exclusive at one point going multiplat