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[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Usually when I plan on eating chipotle, I eat really light throughout the day, so the calories in what I get isn't an issue.

The sodium though is an issue. 2400mg for how I like to get my bowl haha. Thus I rarely get my bowl the way I really like it.

 

[Zoe]

Then you're already unhealthy.

[citation needed]

 

[entremet]

But what if you only eat once or twice a day?

Twice a day?

That's a huge food bill!

 

[The Lamp]

My Chipotle burritos are super simple due to the fact that I was allergic to everything under the sun as a kid and as a result now don't like a lot of stuff now that I've outgrown it. I normally do chicken or barbacoa, pinto beans, brown rice. That's it.

Having them in moderation isn't gonna be the end of the world, I think.

Same. But I add cheese because I love cheese.

 

[Chezzymann]

So to the people who think that over 1000 calories and high sodium is fine, what do you use as a measurement for what is healthy or not? I honestly have no idea how to tell what is healthy and what isn't now after reading this thread.

 

[The Lamp]

So to the people who think that over 1000 calories and high sodium is fine, what do you use as a measurement for what is healthy or not? I honestly have no idea how to tell what is healthy and what isn't now after reading this thread.

Well I'm not one of those people, but I certainly don't think some cheese with a meal is unhealthy. No idea why people would think a little cheese is fattening, given the French paradox.

 

[APF]

If you want to stack toppings etc up and you're worried about calories, you can always use this secret technique called "cutting the thing in half" and saving some for later.

 

[Google]

So to the people who think that over 1000 calories and high sodium is fine, what do you use as a measurement for what is healthy or not? I honestly have no idea how to tell what is healthy and what isn't now after reading this thread.

If you're having lunch and you eat 800-1000 calories that leaves somewhere between 1000-1500 calories for the rest of the day.

High sodium is not a big deal if it's relatively infrequent.

Also, calories are not unhealthy in themselves. If you've had a busy day exercise wise you can enjoy a lot more.

 

[rawd]

This thread just makes we want to dive into a tub full of guac

 

[Amentallica]

So to the people who think that over 1000 calories and high sodium is fine, what do you use as a measurement for what is healthy or not? I honestly have no idea how to tell what is healthy and what isn't now after reading this thread.

In addition to having doctor prescribed acceptable levels of vitamins, sodium and cholesterol, my barometer for how healthy I am is quite simply how I feel. I've learned a lot about myself throughout the years with having oscillating weights of +/- 45. My mood deteriorates rapidly when I eat unhealthy; I feel depressed and excessively tired when I intake too much sugar; I feel lethargic and lazy when I eat too much. Luckily I've maintained the same weight for approximately two years now, but on the days that I do eat like a bastard, I can totally see a change in how I feel.

 

[Chezzymann]

If you're having lunch and you eat 800-1000 calories that leaves somewhere between 1000-1500 calories for the rest of the day.

High sodium is not a big deal if it's relatively infrequent.

Also, calories are not unhealthy in themselves. If you've had a busy day exercise wise you can enjoy a lot more.

That's not answering my question at all. So I can have a whopper every day as long as I don't get a soda and make sure I eat less than 1500 calories for the rest of the day? That can't be right. Actually I could have a whopper for lunch and a whopper for dinner. It has 900mg of sodium so that would be 200mg lower than the recommended intake if I eat two.

 

[Lamel]

Yeah well it is a lot of food. If you're having chipotle that should probably be the biggest meal of your day.

It's great if you lift though.

 

[Van Owen]

The sodium though is an issue. 2400mg for how I like to get my bowl haha. Thus I rarely get my bowl the way I really like it.

Meh, just drink more water.

 

[God Dayumm]

That's not answering my question at all. So I can have a whopper every day as long as I don't get a soda and make sure I eat less than 1500 calories for the rest of the day? Actually I could have a whopper for lunch and a whopper for dinner. It has 900mg of sodium so that would be 300mg lower than the recommended intake if I eat two.

Yes. For me something healthy has a good amount of protein or good fats, low fructose and some micronutrients. If you stack a burger with some veggies it will be healthy. The buns could be considered problematic, but if all you sugar during the day is only from those buns then it's perfectly fine.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Meh, just drink more water.

Drink more than 100 ounces most days.

 

[Chezzymann]

Yes. For me something healthy has a good amount of protein or good fats, low fructose and some micronutrients. If you stack a burger with some veggies it will be healthy. The buns could be considered problematic, but of all you sugar during the day is only from those buns then it's perfectly fine.

So why is there a huge stigma against fast food and why do so many people think they're unhealthy? Is it almost entirely because of the fries and the soda you get with it?

 

[SMgamer83]

Rice, Veggies, Steak, Tomato, Corn, Cheese, Lettuce bowl. That's how I like it, and it's ~600 calories.

 

[chrislowe]

Dont see the problem here?

Lets get to mcdonalds, 2 cheeseburgers = 600kcal, lets drink a big milkshake with that, a vanilla flavoured almost 400kcal, and some fries with that, say a medium one, 240kcal

Thats like 1200kcal aswell.


Heck even colleagues at work thinking they eat so healthy usually eats lots of fruit at work, like bananas. Some eat 3 a day, thats like almost 350kcal aswell.
Then for breakfast they eat youghurt (like 200kcal) maybe some musli in that cause its so fresh (another 150kcal), some caffe with milk to that 60kcal, and 2 grapes (50kcal)
almost forgot the bread with cheese (another 160kcal)

So they have eaten bananas (350kcal) and breakfast (200+150+60+50+160=620kcal)
Then they need to eat lunch, and dinner aswell... so they are way over 2000kcal a day.

these people usually brag about not drinking things like Fanta, and Coke, only diet and zero, but complain about not being able to loose weight.
It might be "healthy" but they eat loads of calories each day.

They take the car to work, but its only like 10minutes to walk, or 3 minutes by cycle.
They never go in the stairs, only use elevators.
They sit at their desk all day long... etc.

But yeah, its probably Chipotles fault people getting fat...

 

[Dai101]

 

[Google]

That's not answering my question at all. So I can have a whopper every day as long as I don't get a soda and make sure I eat less than 1500 calories for the rest of the day? Actually I could have a whopper for lunch and a whopper for dinner. It has 900mg of sodium so that would be 200mg lower than the recommended intake if I eat two.

Sorry, I assumed you had even a modicum of education on fats, proteins, carbs, etc.

A whopper has double the fat of a burrito and I assume a fuck load of sugar built into the bun and sauces.

To answer your question, a burrito is high calories and carbs both of which are not bad when mixed with a balanced diet and potentially good for you if you're leading an active lifestyle.

Add black beans and salad/veggies to the burrito and you have the makings of a pretty balanced and nutritional (albeit fairly high in carbs and calories) meal that no one should be worrying about when mixed with a balanced diet.

Compare that to a Whopper and ask yourself where you getting your vitamins from and what you're going to do with the excess trans fat and sugars.

Also, you'll be feeling hungry very quickly with a Whopper. Doubtful with a burrito.

 

[Vermillion]

Fun fact: I am reading this at Chipotle, with a giant burrito in my hand.

 

[Omegasquash]

So to the people who think that over 1000 calories and high sodium is fine, what do you use as a measurement for what is healthy or not? I honestly have no idea how to tell what is healthy and what isn't now after reading this thread.

Calories + nutritional balance. Calculate your (rough) base TDEE (just one source here, there are lots of others).

Get a fitness app that tracks calories and micronutrient value (skip macro for now), enter in your goals, even if you're trying to maintain. Progressively eat to get closer to those numbers over time.

And if you do things perfectly for awhile, then eat a fucking pie or something. There's no baseline "healthy" or "unhealthy" unless we're talking about specific things. Trans fats are (AFAIK) unhealthy, as an example. They shouldn't be a regular part of anyone's diet, but if you're Starvin' Marvin on the way home from work and you get Burger King or something once every three months, you're not going to die. It will have relatively little impact on your life, if at all.

This is a thread on nutrition and not activity, however it needs to be emphasized that regular exercise is nothing but good. Add that in there too if you can, and I encourage you to find a way

 

[IchigoSharingan]

[citation needed]

My doctor is my reference, Dr. Manish Marolia

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

Fun fact: I am reading this at Chipotle, with a giant burrito in my hand.

 

[rawd]

Fun fact: I am reading this at Chipotle, with a giant burrito in my hand.

RIP

 

[Fury451]

This doesnt surprise me much. Everyone knows Chipotle gives you a fuckton of food.

Everyone should come to the one near my house then, because they cheap out on the meat and rice every time. In fact they're pretty sparse about what they give in general, it's a total waste of money and I avoid that location now.

Anyways, this isn't too surprising. I usually split a meal in half from there, and try to avoid high calorie toppings.

 

[oti]

Fun fact: I am reading this at Chipotle, with a giant burrito in my hand.

Give it to meeeeeh

 

[Who]

good, chipotle is the worst. What kind of jackass puts lemon in their rice?

Chipotle uses limes in their rice not lemons

 

[God Dayumm]

So why is there a huge stigma against fast food and why do so many people think they're unhealthy? Is it almost entirely because of the fries and the soda you get with it?

Yes. And also some hyperbole. I personally have a stigma against over-processed meat and cheese because a lot of their micronutrients are lost. Meat is a great source of many nutrients and they are lost when it is overcooked, frozen and defrosted too many times, and smashed into a pink goop (lol). So in the end you only have the protein and need to get the vitamins, omegas and minerals from elsewhere.

Also fast food fosters a culture of overconsumption with their cheap alternatives, drive throughs, super sizes and refills. That is not something inherently wrong with the food but with ourselves

 

[BamfMeat]

That's not answering my question at all. So I can have a whopper every day as long as I don't get a soda and make sure I eat less than 1500 calories for the rest of the day? That can't be right. Actually I could have a whopper for lunch and a whopper for dinner. It has 900mg of sodium so that would be 200mg lower than the recommended intake if I eat two.

Why can't that be right? What makes it wrong?

 

[Chezzymann]

So all these answers made me even more confused as each answer is pretty different. Ugh. Diabetes runs in my family so I'm really paranoid about this stuff cause I don't want to potentially get it. I've been trying to cut soda and other super sugary stuff out of my diet but I'm not sure what else to do besides count calories. But apparently that doesn't matter much and I need to instead keep track of vitamins, minerals, omegas, and general nutritional balance, whatever that means.

 

[HawksWinStanley]

My Chipotle burritos are super simple due to the fact that I was allergic to everything under the sun as a kid and as a result now don't like a lot of stuff now that I've outgrown it. I normally do chicken or barbacoa, pinto beans, brown rice. That's it.

Having them in moderation isn't gonna be the end of the world, I think.

Am I the only one that didn't know you could outgrow food allergies? I assumed that shit stuck with you for life.

 

[BamfMeat]

So all these answers made me even more confused as each answer is pretty different. Ugh. Diabetes runs in my family so I'm really paranoid about this stuff cause I don't want to potentially get it. I've been trying to cut soda and other super sugary stuff out of my diet but I'm not sure what else to do.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/preventing-diabetes-full-story/

Harvard on trying to prevent diabetes Type 2.

Basically, less processed food (most Chipotle food isn't processed, by the way, aside from cooking it), less red meat (hello chicken), exercise more, stop smoking and drink more alcohol. (that one surprised me.)

 

[SeanR1221]

That's not answering my question at all. So I can have a whopper every day as long as I don't get a soda and make sure I eat less than 1500 calories for the rest of the day? That can't be right. Actually I could have a whopper for lunch and a whopper for dinner. It has 900mg of sodium so that would be 200mg lower than the recommended intake if I eat two.

It is right.

See here's the problem with a lot of nutrition advice. Many things work so everyone is quick to champion what works for them.

Calorie counting is effective but the problem with your whopper example is it will most likely leave you hungry. 500 calories worth of rice, chicken and vegetables is very different from a 500 calorie burger.

On the other side, just focusing on specific macros is also effective. Eating lots of fat and protein with limited carbs restricts your calories naturally because those foods are filling.

Then you have to consider how those macros are processed in your body. For example, a sugary cereal could be a great carb source immediately following an intense workout. But just eating that same cereal when you wake up? Your body reacts differently.

So, like many things in life, there's multiple components to it.

Do what works for you. If you can stick to it, do it.

For me, it's meal timing, macro counting and calorie counting. I could never stick with low carb or fasting. I love having 200+ carbs on a workout day. I like eating jasmine rice everyday. And it works for me.

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

Drink more than 100 ounces most days.

Wut. That's like 8 normal-sized water bottles a day. Why is that necessary? And how often do you piss?

 

[Omegasquash]

So all these answers made me even more confused as each answer is pretty different. Ugh. Diabetes runs in my family so I'm really paranoid about this stuff cause I don't want to potentially get it. I've been trying to cut soda and other super sugary stuff out of my diet but I'm not sure what else to do besides count calories. But apparently that doesn't matter much and I need to instead keep track of vitamins, minerals, omegas, and general nutritional balance, whatever that means.

You're already doing a good job by limiting sugar intake, I think. Given your fears about diabetes, I'd consult with your doctor and perhaps get a referral to a nutritionist.

 

[Chezzymann]

Why can't that be right? What makes it wrong?

It is right.

I specifically asked for what measurement is good for something being healthy or not. He just said calories aren't important and you need to eat stuff with high sodium infrequently. I didn't say if it is wrong or right, I just said it didn't answer my question.

 

[SeanR1221]

I specifically asked for what measurement is good for something being healthy or not. He just said calories aren't important and you need to eat stuff with high sodium infrequently. I didn't say if it is wrong or right, I just said it didn't answer my question.

What's healthy depends on your goals honestly

And your definition of healthy.

 

[Chezzymann]

It is right.

See here's the problem with a lot of nutrition advice. Many things work so everyone is quick to champion what works for them.

Calorie counting is effective but the problem with your whopper example is it will most likely leave you hungry. 500 calories worth of rice, chicken and vegetables is very different from a 500 calorie burger.

On the other side, just focusing on specific macros is also effective. Eating lots of fat and protein with limited carbs restricts your calories naturally because those foods are filling.

Then you have to consider how those macros are processed in your body. For example, a sugary cereal could be a great carb source immediately following an intense workout. But just eating that same cereal when you wake up? Your body reacts differently.

So, like many things in life, there's multiple components to it.

Do what works for you. If you can stick to it, do it.

For me, it's meal timing, macro counting and calorie counting. I could never stick with low carb or fasting. I love having 200+ carbs on a workout day. I like eating jasmine rice everyday. And it works for me.

How do I tell the difference between rice/chicken/etc from a burger when it comes to keeping me full? Is there any measurement for it that will give me a good idea? I'll try to keep away from beef I guess but I don't know how that extends to all the other myriads of types of foods out there. Is it just trial and error? I'm not really sure what you mean by macros or how I can tell how my body 'reacts' after eating cereal in the morning without working out first.

I don't really know what works for me and I'm not sure how to tell if I'm 'healthy' or not besides checking my weight and triglycerides occasionally or something.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Wut. That's like 8 normal-sized water bottles a day. Why is that necessary? And how often do you piss?

Dunno, I have a 32ounce camelbak water bottle with me at all times. Usually drink 3 of them between leaving my home at 7am and getting home around 7pm. it does help with random snacking though. Then any liquids I drink after that, usually water or tea, puts me over 100 ounces.

Piss maybe every 4-5 hours.

 

[Google]

How do I tell the difference between rice/chicken/etc from a burger when it comes to keeping me full? Is there any measurement for it that will give me a good idea? I'll try to keep away from beef I guess but I don't know how that extends to all the other myriads of types of foods out there. Is it just trial and error?

I don't really know what works for me and I'm not sure how to tell if I'm 'healthy' or not besides checking my weight and triglycerides occasionally or something.

Seriously, google this stuff.

Carbs will make you hungry.

Protein makes you full.

It's a pretty simple equation.

 

[tmac456]

looks like my typical bowl is in that 850 calorie range

rice, fajita peppers, black beans, chicken, mild, medium and corn salsa. light sour cream and lettuce

 

[Google]

looks like my typical bowl is in that 850 calorie range

rice, fajita peppers, black beans, chicken, mild, medium and corn salsa. light sour cream and lettuce

Good shit, right there.

Nice, healthy, filling.

A+++++++++ would buy again

 

[Zoe]

My doctor is my reference, Dr. Manish Marolia

You're telling all the IF eaters out there that they're doing it wrong.

 

[RedSwirl]

Calculated my regular meal: 420 Calories.

 

[Nastrodamous]

What are your calculated TDEE? Mine is 2844, I will never be able to eat that much

 

[Chezzymann]

So what I'm kind of getting from this thread if I want to keep my weight the same throughout my life (~160lbs at 5'11) and not get diabetes:

Focus on high proteins, low carbs so you don't get hungry after eating a meal
Try to eat around 2000 calories a day
Less red meat (try to eat chicken instead of beef)
Eat your vegetables
Avoid processed foods
Limit sugar (no soda) and trans fat
Try to get vitamins
Be physically active(I'm guessing running or jogging a mile or two would be fine? I don't run much so I couldn't do more if I tried lol)

 

[evilromero]

Strange that Chipotle always gets singled out for this. If you're eating out, chances are you're eating too much at a time, especially if it's a big food chain. Portions have just gotten bigger and bigger.

Make your meals at home fools.

 

[IchigoSharingan]

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/preventing-diabetes-full-story/

Harvard on trying to prevent diabetes Type 2.

Basically, less processed food (most Chipotle food isn't processed, by the way, aside from cooking it), less red meat (hello chicken), exercise more, stop smoking and drink more alcohol. (that one surprised me.)

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

 

[IchigoSharingan]

You're telling all the IF eaters out there that they're doing it wrong.

Metabolic functions are metabolic functions with their I/O protocols. Made sense when my doc said it.