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Most Overrated Developer??

Nameless said:
I would have to go with Bungie.. I mean lets look what they've done this generation. They made an average 3rd person shooter in Oni, and then they made a great FPS. Granted, while Halo is a great game, it still failed to innovate in anyway, it was just as though Bungietook all the of great aspects of other great FPS titles and combined them in one refined package. After that, they rehashed the fuck out of that great FPS and thus Halo 2 was born...

They offered little to no innovation this generation, nor have they done anything revolutionary unless you count the Halo 2 launch hype which was pretty much unprecedented. I want to see them show us some true innovation branch out from the FPS genre,(Oni was a PC port so...) Show us that you can make a great Console game that isn't an FPS(they did it on PC/Mac). IMO they need to do both or one of those things before anyone can begin to put them on the pedestal they get put on.
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Judging from the lack of intelligence in this post I can see why you are a niners fan. :D
 
Leondexter said:
Impossible to answer, because too many publishers are comprised of several development teams, which may or may not be the same team from game to game.

So "Konami" isn't a valid answer. And maybe even "Bungie" or "Rare" or "Retro" isn't, because they've all had some notable personnel changes between games.

So it's better to stick to the games.
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IAWTP to the extent that you can't blanket accuse big devs of being overrated. Take your basic Nintendo example: EAD this gen? Overrated. Intelligent Systems? Fucking topnotch.
 
random Nintendo fan - Bungie! OMG Halo is all they've ever done and it really sucks, they suck! Metroid Prime was SOOOOO much better.

random xbox fan - Square Enix, Japanese RPGs are for overwrought angsty emo teens, and the only people over 20 who play them watch hentai tentacle porn and fantasize about raping school girls!

random Sony fan - Nintendo! Their games were fun like 5 years ago but it's all what have you done for me lately! Zelda's kiddy!


I think I have my bases covered right there. I might have the order a bit mixed up, but I gave it my best shot.
 
Nerevar said:
random xbox fan - Square Enix, Japanese RPGs are for overwrought angsty emo teens, and the only people over 20 who play them watch hentai tentacle porn and fantasize about raping school girls!
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Err........I don't watch hentai.
 
"Most Overrated Developer??"

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quadriplegicjon said:
so no one should criticize anyone elses music, art, movie, tv shows, etc... unless you are in the business and have made millions?
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fuck yeah...otherwise we're all just whiney bitches

:lol :lol :lol
 
Overrated developers. You know, I don't believe there are any. Everybody makes different types of games, and everybody has different tastes in games. See, I personally don't care for Bungie's games, Rockstar's games or Kojima's games. But I can look at them and tell they are good games, and see why they are as immensely popular as they are.
 
Jado said:
IAWTP to the extent that you can't blanket accuse big devs of being overrated. Take your basic Nintendo example: EAD this gen? Overrated. Intelligent Systems? Fucking topnotch.
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Amen to that. EAD is easily my all-time favorite dev team, with the footnote that they (apparently) often milk other studios for talent when they need it.

But not this gen. Pikmin, Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, and even Wind Waker were not up to par with their past greatness. I only hope that they can redeem themselves with Twilight Princess, which looks off-the-scale awesome.

And yeah, Intelligent Systems has kicked all sorts of ass this gen.
 
This thread really is just an excuse for someone to blow off some steam about Bungie. Developers that make game that sell in the millions are not overrated. They are good at what they do, and do it well.

To put it more bluntly; this thread is really stupid, and so is the opening argument.


Zing!
 
Nameless said:
I would have to go with Bungie.. I mean lets look what they've done this generation. They made an average 3rd person shooter in Oni, and then they made a great FPS. Granted, while Halo is a great game, it still failed to innovate in anyway, it was just as though Bungietook all the of great aspects of other great FPS titles and combined them in one refined package. After that, they rehashed the fuck out of that great FPS and thus Halo 2 was born...

They offered little to no innovation this generation, nor have they done anything revolutionary unless you count the Halo 2 launch hype which was pretty much unprecedented. I want to see them show us some true innovation branch out from the FPS genre,(Oni was a PC port so...) Show us that you can make a great Console game that isn't an FPS(they did it on PC/Mac). IMO they need to do both or one of those things before anyone can begin to put them on the pedestal they get put on.
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Bungie also made the Myth / Marathon series, which people (including myself) are still playing to this day, almost ten years after they were first released. That says a lot, doesn't it? I prefer Marathon to Halo multiplayer a lot more, the weapons are so much more balanced... I'll forever love Bungie for Marathon.
 
SonicMegaDrive said:
Overrated developers. You know, I don't believe there are any. Everybody makes different types of games, and everybody has different tastes in games. See, I personally don't care for Bungie's games, Rockstar's games or Kojima's games. But I can look at them and tell they are good games, and see why they are as immensely popular as they are.
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Now that is a post I fully believe in. Thumbs up SonicMegaDrive. There are high profile games that disinterest me but I can still see their quality of why people like them the way they do and appreciate them from my own perspective, but sometimes people are just to damn dense in their selfcentered view to even acknowledge such a thing.

Time is short and I play what I like, and don't really bother hating on what I don't cause it's a waste of effort and time and at times would make you look like a conceited jackass. I have enough stress as is before adding such petty things, but you know sometimes it can really get to you and kill the gamer inside.
 
Tough question really, there are actually not that many, each dev gets the credit they deserve. As Sonicmegadrive said, each dev has games that one of us might not like, but that doesnt stop it from being a good game. For instance, Im not a big RE fan, but I can understand why so many people rate it so highly and rate capcom so highly for what they did
 
Hmmm. None actually. I really don't look at one group and say theyre not worth their hype.
While I will admit that after my preference for Sega software there is this long drop off between the other guys.

I guess after Sega went 3rd arty I've migrated to more Western/European games alot though,the Enclaves,Butcher Bay,RayMan2,the Rally games,mid evil hack and slash games,western stat filled rpgs,that sort of thing.

I really don't think any are better than others. I just prefer the non Eastern games because Sega has really only been my onlyJapanese game company that I've prefered over all others,now that theyre gone as 1st party the field is wide open.

So I don't put much stock into any one developer outside of Sega,so I can't point a finger and say hey theyre overated. And contrary to what many think I still don't think Sega has lost it. They may have gotten port happy and cut back on their game expenses but I think that they've been gearing for the upcoming next gen. the last few years(which would explain their output) while coasting in 2nd gear for the rest of the way.

I still have enjoyed the Shinobi's,Outrun 2s, Monkey Balls,and I guess I was one of the few who enjoyed and played Sonic Heroes from beginning to end,though the last two stages were really hell on my tolerance factor.:)

So overall,I don't see anyone as overated. I was thinking maaaaybe EA but even then they make games I like. I really can't say there other games suck,because I haven't really checked them out.

And I see SonicMegaDrive did the whole speach before I did,hey atleast I'm not alone in this department then.:)
 
Neex said:
This thread really is just an excuse for someone to blow off some steam about Bungie. Developers that make game that sell in the millions are not overrated. They are good at what they do, and do it well.

To put it more bluntly; this thread is really stupid, and so is the opening argument.


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Oh, really? So you think Dragonball Z: Budokai, Enter the Matrix, and Yu-Gi-Oh: Duelists of the Roses, to name a few, are good games? You think these developers are good? These are all million sellers, just here in NA.
 
Bungie. Not because I think Halo is shit, even if I thought it was good it'd be the same answer. Basically, you get random XBox owners touting Bungie as one of the best developers of all time when they've played like, 2 of their games. Fans of their older games saying this, I can understand, Halo just seems to bring out the inner knob in people.

EAD. EAD makes awesome games, but have the most rabid fanbase who overrate their games at whatever chance they get. I'm not even quite so sure why their fans are all "Ocarina of Time... MASTERPIECE! Wind Waker... THE DEVIL'S HANDYWORK!". OoT is flawed, too, to the max even.

I was going to say Sega but then I realised that they don't get enough credit, except from dorks who don't give a shit about their games until they are worth a hundy on ebay.

Team Ninja. Seriously. WHY.
 
I'm feeling a lot of hate in this thread!

Personaly for me, even though I own several of there games, I would say Pandemic, I like a lot of there games, but every single one seems to lack a real level of polish, I mean, it plays ok, but for me at least, in every one of there games when you can drive, the controles are absolute shit. Maybe it's just me, I dunno.

~Black Deatha
 
My usual vote is Konami, just because they use to have much more variety and quality to their games. Now it's two or three franchises and a bunch of crap. One of those franchises is crap as well if you ask me. I basically look forward to yet another 2d Castlevania from them and that's it. =/

I am also wanting to put Bioware here. They are one of the very few PC devs I like, but their recent console offerings have really dissapointed me. There's just something lacking in them.
 
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