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[ShadyAcshuns]

First nah, Second I'd say its close, yeah.

Probably because they somewhat tried to copy HK with part two.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Probably because they somewhat tried to copy HK with part two.

Yep, and nothing wrong with that. They did a great job.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Yep, and nothing wrong with that. They did a great job.

Badges rule!

 

[Ellery]

I love Hollow Knight and see a lot of people that like it, but I don't have the feeling that it is being constantly mentioned and heralded.

Maybe it is some sort of perception/PoV thing? We sometimes have it that other people praise things we also like, but due to the widespread acclaim something gets we want to be smart and clever and like something else that feels like a hidden secret intelligent pick over what seemingly many people are picking?

Human psychology does that. Has happened a million times before. Has happened to me to. I dislike the movie The Godfather. Why I have no idea it is objectively great and I can tell it is well made, but it just isn't working for me. Is it incredibly overrated because of that? I have no idea I can't even be remotely objective with that movie.

 

[Solrac]

PS: I agree.

 

[Neff]

I hate it honestly

 

[Sanepar]

Like 99% of indie games.

 

[ChoosableOne]

Nah it was great. Not goat(because metroidvania isn't my favourite genre), but great. I loved the art style, platforming elements, and combat. 9/10. The backtracking annoyed me at first, but I got used to it after a while.
I'm not going crazy about Silksong, if that's what you mean, but I'll gladly play it if it turns out good. I do understand the people who are obsessed with this game, but I still don't get the ones who go crazy over Undertale.

 

[K' Dash]

its a good game, nothing touches Super Metroid tho, I don't expect anything to top Super Metroid.

 

[Evil Calvin]

I've tried to play it two separate times and hated both times. Didn't like it at all.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

A lot of Indie games are overrated. Doesnt help that 80% of them are roguelikes. Just some that come to mind that everyone was raving about...GRIS, Celeste, Binding of Isac...found em repetative, boring, bland story, some games throw 20 management loops at once etc. The only reason these games have the length they do is because you keep doing the same shit over and over. Lazy game design.

 

[Major Insano]

C'mon dude, they dropped an absolute banger for $20 that redifined the genre.
It was made by 3-4 people with a dedication and attention to detail/polish that most AAA developers can only dream of.

High skill level
Buttery smooth combat mechanics.
Loads of content.
Great endgame.

Having said that, it wouldn't make my all time top 10 or even 20, but within the genre it's gotta be top 3.

 

[Fess]

devoid of any color

COLOR

Not going to lie this is kinda triggering me…. Are you exaggerating? Or do I have to spam screenshots?

 

[Spukc]

Not going to lie this is kinda triggering me…. Are you exaggerating? Or do I have to spam screenshots?

Keep it.

No

 

[BossLackey]

[...]especially, people mostly younger, who never plays metroid and never want to try it, often say this is their best metroidvania without knowing there is metroid or castlevania.

I think at the core of it, this is exactly my problem with the hype. Young people or people new to the genre that have only played HK and yet think it's the best MV.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Nah. Not a single person said they dropped the game because it was too hard. It was for various other reasons. Primarily because the game didn't grab them after giving it a fair shot. Happens all the time.

Not sure what it is about this game that makes people so tribal. Balatro is another popular game that received heaps of praise and people don't get all unga bunga when someone criticizes that.

I quit because it was too hard.

Did people play this shit? It's hard as fuck. I gave it a 10/10 and have beaten many games that would make most men cry but hollow knight is hard and long as FUCK and if you do not get the nail upgrade before fighting a certain boss...good luck.

There are really about 4 things good about HK imo. The gameplay/difficulty is really good and hard as fuck, the game is very long for this genre, and the atmosphere is really like dark souls. So many non-from soulslikes don't get that right. The good gameplay the incredible difficulty the length and the soulslike atmosphere made fresh by the bug theme. It really is a complete package for genre fans imho.

I marginally prefer the igavanias too, they are much, MUCH shorter which can help with retro style games and also they are very easy. They are flashy, cool, and fun with good music and have a good but small puzzle that can be accomplished in a few play sessions.

Since hollow knight there have been a few great metroidvanias that have really stepped up, 9 sols, blasphemous 2, prince of persia, dread, and more but that doesn't mean hollow knight can't punch with them, it's just that we are happy another high level one is coming out. I'm not sure how any genre fan could not at least respect what hollow knight offered. SotN is still the goat but Hollow Knight was really well done and a good game too.

 

[Minsc]

Every single highly rated game is inherently overrated, without exception.

 

[Hudo]

Here's a hot take: I like Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth more than Hollow Knight.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Here's a hot take: I like Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth more than Hollow Knight.

It's pretty good.

 

[kur07]

I'm the opposite... I found the art style off-putting, and I'm not that into metroidvanias. Yet somehow this game captured my attention and I finished it. Even the art style grew on me. The game feels like more than the sum of its parts.

The thing I'd praise is great balancing. The challenge was just right most of the time. I think they designed it with great care.

I do agree it's not ground breaking in any way. It's just an enjoyable game.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Hudo MagiusNecros speaking of Deedlit, if you liked the "change element" mechanic to avoid damage, check out SMT Synchronicity Prologue, has the same mechanic, it's free, has an english translation and ofc is fun to play.

 

[Guilhermegrg]

Didn't click it for me. I can recognise the polish, the balance, movement, the fact it was made by a small group. It's great that they get recognition and profit from their work.

But personally couldn't get into it. Didn't find the art work, music, story or concepts appealing.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Hudo MagiusNecros speaking of Deedlit, if you liked the "change element" mechanic to avoid damage, check out SMT Synchronicity Prologue, has the same mechanic, it's free, has an english translation and ofc is fun to play.

Found it. It's actually ALSO by Team Ladybug. Thanks for sharing Hee-Ho!

 

[bender]

First nah, Second I'd say its close, yeah.

 

[Roni]

It's accessible, which automatically makes it one of the best in the greater gamer community. Among the hardcore, sure, there's better stuff. But the games industry needs growth. It's much easier for Hollow Knight as a franchise to grow than any other more hardcore brand.

Which is why I always find it hilarious when some people within the Souls community reject an easy mode. They're basically asking for their genre to eventually die off...

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

didnt even know people liked it that much

game looked alright
fan of the genre though

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Never played it, but i have been seeing so much glazing toward this game, and for so long that it annoys me. Same thing happened with the Berserk anime. Constant glazing all over i looked, and i ignored it for all these years until 2024, when i decided to weeb up, and watch the whole season. One day i have to do the same with HK, i guess.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Never played it, but i have been seeing so much glazing toward this game, and for so long that it annoys me. Same thing happened with the Berserk anime. Constant glazing all over i looked, and i ignored it for all these years until 2024, when i decided to weeb up, and watch the whole season. One day i have to do the same with HK, i guess.

Now read the manga...since it's 500% better.

 

[Halfkut]

I think at the core of it, this is exactly my problem with the hype. Young people or people new to the genre that have only played HK and yet think it's the best MV.

Where are these people you keep talking about?

You claim the game is overrated but 70% of the thread is people calling it mid or average. Personally I barely see it brought up these days unless it's silksong talk in a Nintendo direct thread

So where exactly do you go that people praise this game so continuously that it irks you this much?

 

[NeverYouMind]

Imagine downvoting a game because it doesnt have "fun speedruns". Dumbest shit I ever read. Speedruns are for idiots and the only positive out of the idiocracy around them is that they give back to charity and thats it.

The point of a speedrun is to fully utilize game mechanics and glitches to blaze through an awesome game with as little down time as possible. It has little to do with the streamed events predominantly attended by the mentally ill.

I think you're great man, but game is actually great. Unlike Zelda II

It is more polished than Zelda II but it is not as engaging due to lack of gameplay density.

 

[Hudo]

Hudo MagiusNecros speaking of Deedlit, if you liked the "change element" mechanic to avoid damage, check out SMT Synchronicity Prologue, has the same mechanic, it's free, has an english translation and ofc is fun to play.

Ah! Thank you for reminding me of SMT Synchronicity Prologue. It's in my Steam library, but I've never touched it (but I planned to).

 

[Moonjt9]

I respectfully disagree.

Hollow Knight is the only metroidvania that has been able to reach the heights of super Metroid. And in some ways even surpass it.

That is a monumental achievement worthy of the highest praise.

 

[Donkusei]

Short answer : no

Long answer : ... no