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[Seik]

As usual: Laugh, lock & trash if old.

So during the Mobile World Congress, a Tegra 4 reference tablet finally got benchmarked. Let the numbers roll!

Source: Engadget

Benchmark comparisons with other Tegra 3 Tablet.

Particularly stunning was that SunSpider result, which should give you a strong idea of what you can expect in terms of web browsing performance. In short, the tablet chewed through all that code in just 499ms (keep in mind that lower numbers are better in this particular test). To give you some perspective, the iPad 4 scores an average of 865ms in the test. So if you enjoy the web browsing experience on your iPad, you're going to be pretty pleased what NVIDIA has to offer here. Put differently, when we ran SunSpider on a laptop, the desktop version of Chrome achieved a score of 188.8ms -- we're used to seeing a much bigger gap between desktop and mobile browsers.

Another source: Ubergizmo

More benchmarks from AnandTech:

NVIDIA shared a bit of performance data generated from a 1.9GHz Tegra 4 reference tablet. CPU performance is understandably higher than anything we’ve seen from anything ARM or Atom x86 based thus far:

On the GPU front NVIDIA claims to offer performance competitive with Apple’s iPad 4, which is quite impressive considering how far behind NVIDIA had been over the previous two generations.

I gotta say I'm hyped, I was happy with my Tegra 3 tablet last year but I think it needed a little bit more horsepower. Tegra 4 sounds like it's going to be the real deal, Especially among Android emulators enthusiasts. My last Nexus 7 was chocking at some point with OpenGL with my PSX emulator. Now I expect everything to be smooth as butter. Can't wait to get something with this chip inside!

TL;DR Tegra 4 Ouya will be beast.

 

[Ingueferroque]

Thats a huge jump.

 

[brain_stew]

CPU performance was always going to be best in class with it packing quad A15s. GPU performance has always been where Tegra designs have failed miserably. Is CF-Bench a pure graphics benchmark? Any points of comparison other than Tegra 3?

 

[AbandonedTrolley]

Being honest the Tegra 3 on my Nexus 7 seems fine for my tablet gaming. Would have liked to see the 4 in the Ouya though but it's most likely to have a hardware revision at some point so when that happens I will probably dip in at that point.

 

[neoanarch]

Being honest the Tegra 3 on my Nexus 7 seems fine for my tablet gaming. Would have liked to see the 4 in the Ouya though but it's most likely to have a hardware revision at some point so when that happens I will probably dip in at that point.

Ouya is on yearly hardware refresh cycle, no? The Tegra 4 might be a target for the first refresh.

 

[Seik]

CPU performance was always going to be best in class with it packing quad A15s. GPU performance has always been where Tegra designs have failed miserably. Is CF-Bench a pure graphics benchmark? Any points of comparison other than Tegra 3?

I just added a bit more comparisons.

 

[Bigmac1910]

Until I see real game benchmarks this means almost nothing.

 

[brain_stew]

I just added a bit more comparisons.

That's more like it but why is the fastest tablet on the market from a graphics perspective (ipad 4) omitted from that graph? That's the real point of comparison.

Until I see real game benchmarks this means almost nothing.

Where do you propose to find them?

GL Benhmark is the best you're going to get.

 

[AbandonedTrolley]

Ouya is on yearly hardware refresh cycle, no? The Tegra 4 might be a target for the first refresh.

They have hinted at yearly refresh cycles so I would imagine that the T4 will be the first one to hit. If that is the case and it's a resonable price I will bite. I'm hoping they will sell barebones upgrades as well rather than needing to purchase a full console again.

 

[evlcookie]

That's more like it but why is the fastest tablet on the market from a graphics perspective (ipad 4) omitted from that graph? That's the real point of comparison.

Because the performance of the GPU is pretty much the same as the iPad 4, Going by Anands write up.

On the GPU front NVIDIA claims to offer performance competitive with Apple’s iPad 4, which is quite impressive considering how far behind NVIDIA had been over the previous two generations.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6787/...re-deep-dive-plus-tegra-4i-phoenix-hands-on/6

 

[Krilekk]

How is the energy consumption compared to Tegra 3?

 

[dr3upmushroom]

Being honest the Tegra 3 on my Nexus 7 seems fine for my tablet gaming. Would have liked to see the 4 in the Ouya though but it's most likely to have a hardware revision at some point so when that happens I will probably dip in at that point.

I similarly don't feel any pressing need to upgrade my iPad 3 even though I game on it a lot. My favorite games don't tend to be graphically intensive, and in my experience games known for their graphics tend to be ones that try too hard to ape genres that just don't work well with touch controls, with the exception of Infinity Blade.

I'm not adverse to more power, but at this point I'd be happier if tablet manufacturers started aiming for thinner, lighter tablets rather than pursuing power for power's sake. Even if it can run games with PS360 level graphics at full resolution, I'm going to be disappointed if my next iPad runs as hot and is as heavy as my 3.

Edit: I will admit that this could be really exciting for the Ouya. I wasn't aware that it was getting updates, presumably if PS4/ 720 are stuck at their launch specs Ouya could slowly catch up if tech continues improving at this rate.

 

[Seik]

Because the performance of the GPU is pretty much the same as the iPad 4, Going by Anands write up.



http://www.anandtech.com/show/6787/...re-deep-dive-plus-tegra-4i-phoenix-hands-on/6

Added in the OP, thanks!

How is the energy consumption compared to Tegra 3?

From Nvidia

Tegra 4 consumes up to 45 percent less power than its predecessor, Tegra 3, in common use cases. And it enables up to 14 hours of HD video playback on phones.

Still, this is from Nvidia, so I guess we'd better be waiting for actual tablets to hit the market before assuming anything.

 

[Jaagen]

I'm all in for a Nexus 7-.ish device with this and 2GB RAM. The current N7 wasn't tha appealing to me because of the fact that Tegra 3 is pretty shitty. I also hope they will use faster flash memory next time.

 

[ekim]

The GLBenchmark for it is like 5 fps faster than an iPad 4 - not that impressive.

 

[Seik]

The GLBenchmark for it is like 5 fps faster than an iPad 4 - not that impressive.

In numbers, not really. To me it's the fact that Android platforms are slowly but safely getting equivalent to iOS devices. Which was far, oh, so very far from being the case years ago.

 

[DESTROYA]

Very nice! T3 is a good match on the Nexus 7 it will make the T4 version beastly.
Any idea when we might start seeing T4 devices?
As for the OUYA will wait for the next revision.

 

[brain_stew]

The GLBenchmark for it is like 5 fps faster than an iPad 4 - not that impressive.

Considering how far behind they've been in every previous generation, I'd say it is.

 

[Angelus Errare]

But does it have 8 gee bees?

 

[Daedardus]

How is the energy consumption compared to Tegra 3?

In low load probably lower due to efficiency. In high load like these benchmarks, I believe way more.

 

[Kiyo]

So where are these "blowing away iPad 4" numbers? Also, aren't the Tegra 4 tablets not coming out for another few months? iPad 5 should be out by then, probably a closer comparison.

 

[GenericUserName]

iPad 5 should be out by then, probably a closer comparison.

You know, this is an actual concern. nVidia have a relatively long history of being late to the party. This has caused them problems from the very first Tegra onwards.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

Can it run Crysis?!

Spoiler

j/k

It does look like huge leap forward, looking forward to what kind of games will it bring to the table.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

Can it run 8 gigs of rams?

 

[HolyBaikal]

It's almost like tablets are trying to strongly take away from the laptop market.

I prefer the x86 architecture, but this still means good things.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

On the GPU front NVIDIA claims to offer performance competitive with Apple’s iPad 4, which is quite impressive considering how far behind NVIDIA had been over the previous two generations.

That sounds like "blows iPad 4 out of the water" to you, OP?

 

[Devilgunman]

Is there really a market for this? Why would we need such a horse power in a tablet where majority only use it to browse Internet and play a bunch of dispossible garbage apps/games?

 

[Cheebo]

It's almost like tablets are trying to strongly take away from the laptop market.

I prefer the x86 architecture, but this still means good things.

Trying? They are. PC sales are dropping as tablet sales skyrocket. It is why you see PC manufactures dropping like flies.

The tablet market is quickly taking over the home consumer PC market and will be the dominate home computer form factor.

Is there really a market for this? Why would we need such a horse power in a tablet where majority only use it to browse Internet and play a bunch of dispossible garbage apps/games?

Tablelts are the successor to the PC in the home consumer market, they are going to get massively more powerful each year and replace more and more of the traditional PC's functionality.

 

[strata8]

Is there really a market for this? Why would we need such a horse power in a tablet where majority only use it to browse Internet and play a bunch of dispossible garbage apps/games?

Why do we need i5's in laptops when people do the same things?

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Looks promising. Moore's law not even givin a fuck

I hope that less power consumption thing is true. Battery life really needs to be stepped up.

 

[Devilgunman]

Trying? They are. PC sales are dropping as tablet sales skyrocket. It is why you see PC manufactures dropping like flies.

The tablet market is quickly taking over the home consumer PC market and will be the dominate home computer form factor.



Tablelts are the successor to the PC in the home consumer market, they are going to get massively more powerful each year and replace more and more of the traditional PC's functionality.

Hopefully that future will never come. At this point, I still can do work much more effectively on my 5 years old PC than on an iPad. Tablet has its own market and I don't think it will replace a laptop as a work station. Not in the near future.

 

[Devilgunman]

Why do we need i5's in laptops when people do the same things?

What do you mean " the same thing"? Many people use a laptop as a desktop to play PC games which require more resources than apps on the tablet.

 

[Risette]

Hopefully that future will never come. At this point, I still can do work much more effectively on my 5 years old PC than on an iPad. Tablet has its own market and I don't think it will replace a laptop as a work station. Not in the near future.

That future is already here and rapidly progressing.

PCs are always going to be around, but for high-end workstation and other intensive computing purposes. For consumer needs and low-end MS Office work, tablets are going to & already are taking over.

 

[Cheebo]

Hopefully that future will never come. At this point, I still can do work much more effectively on my 5 years old PC than on an iPad. Tablet has its own market and I don't think it will replace a laptop as a work station. Not in the near future.

It already is here. PC sales are on a steady decline, it isn't going to come back. It won't replace the high-end work station but the vast majority home pc's are sold to be laptops to be used to write word documents and browse the internet, tablets are taking over that market. Which is the biggest segment of the home computer market far and away. Which is why tablets are quickly becoming the dominate home computer form factor.

What do you mean " the same thing"? Many people use a laptop as a desktop to play PC games which require more resources than apps on the tablet.

The apps you use aren't the apps everyone else uses or will always only use. Tablets are getting more and more system intensive functionality all the time, its part of the reason they are taking over the home computer market. They are quickly growing far beyond the simple web browser and game playing device to powerful devices for things like photo and video editing amongst many others.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

It's going to be an absolute beast but the battery life will suck for any phone or tablet that uses it. They still haven't integrated a baseband yet which will further hurt battery life for devices that use it this year. Tegra 4i is A9 based so it's not really the same.

Also, the word is that Tegra 4 yields are absolutely awful and they are respinning it at TSMC before shipping it.

 

[Fysi]

Am I the only one who finds it interesting that they have excluded the Nexus 10 with the Exynos 5250?

Edit: Also will be interesting to see how the Snapdragon 800 and the Exynos big.LITTLE chip compare

 

[Dizzan]

Do you think with tech advancing so quickly, ouya could possibly have better graphics capabilities than ps3 in say 4 years?

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Not impressed until I see retail chips.

The Tegra 3 looked impressive, until it shipped in products months after faster chips.

 

[Quixz]

Do you think with tech advancing so quickly, ouya could possibly have better graphics capabilities than ps3 in say 4 years?

I'd put my money on an iDevice to get there first. Imagination's PowerVR GPUs are stupidly quick.

 

[GenericUserName]

At this point, I still can do work much more effectively on my 5 years old PC than on an iPad.

True. Desktops, in particular, have a higher productivity multiplier compared to tablets, due to various reasons.

What will, however, be thoroughly reamed (by the ever-increasing power of tablets), is the mainstream notebook/netbook lineup. The products aimed at websurfing, watching movies, doing some light officework etc. are already withering on the vine, and the new gen of tablets haven't even come out yet. Frankly, I'm experiencing a bit of buyer's remorse for getting a 13" Lenovo in 2010; I wish I had rather bought a 10.1" tablet instead (but back then they were still a relatively new product, therefore above my budget).

 

[HolyBaikal]

Trying? They are. PC sales are dropping as tablet sales skyrocket. It is why you see PC manufactures dropping like flies.

That they are. I don't know about PC manufacturers dropping like flies, though.

I'm not sure how happy this makes me, considering how proprietary these devices are. Very locked and limited.

I like options, and this platform is purposely limited.

 

[Cheebo]

I'd put my money on an iDevice to get there first. Imagination's PowerVR GPUs are stupidly quick.

iPads should match pcs circa 2012 in about 5 years I would imagine.

 

[Osiris]

Came looking for the benchmarks that show it "Blowing the iPad 4 out of the water" - left with a comment that it "offers performance competitive with Apple’s iPad 4"

Pretty shitty bait and switch, poor show OP.

 

[GenericUserName]

iPads should match pcs circa 2012 in about 5 years I would imagine.

When docked, possibly. Otherwise, the OS is going to strangle the crap out of the SoC to preserve battery life, which is, and will continue to be, the final limiting factor to a tablet's off-tether capability.

 

[BruiserBear]

That sounds like "blows iPad 4 out of the water" to you, OP?

Still waiting for a response to this question. lol

 

[Risette]

That they are. I don't know about PC manufacturers dropping like flies, though.

I'm not sure how happy this makes me, considering how proprietary these devices are. Very locked and limited.

I like options, and this platform is purposely limited.

You have the option to not buy a tablet.

 

[blu]

Blows iPad4 out of the water?

 

[HolyBaikal]

You have the option to not buy a tablet.

Yes.

But just because I still basically have that freedom, doesn't mean this industry direction is helpful for me altogether.

If the industry becomes more locked, then that means less PC software with better options will be made.

The "option of not buying a tablet" is so small it is basically a worthless consolation.

 

[Risette]

Yes.

But just because I still basically have that freedom, doesn't mean this industry direction is helpful for me altogether.

If the industry becomes more locked, then that means less PC software with better options will be made.

The "option of not buying a tablet" is so small it is basically a worthless consolation.

What software do you use that utilizes the full functions of a PC and will no longer be there?

 

[Seik]

Blows iPad4 out of the water?

Not on every aspects, the web browsing experience seems to be quite superior, but graphically there's only an extra 5FPS to be gained with the T4. That's still something important if you ask me.

Still, like I mentionned, this is big since the Android market always was far behind the iOS competition.