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[SlimySnake]

Obviously this is about Nintendo charging $90 for Mario Kart World while it looks two generations behind Forza Horizon, The Crew, NFS and other open world racers from these so called Evil/Greedy publishers.

EA was literally voted the worst company in the world during the gen when they were charging $60 for games that looked like this:

Sony Take2 started off the $70 price tag this gen followed quickly by Activision, and later Sony. Thanks to latest leaks and court filings, we now know that their games cost $200-300 million, and COD actually costs $500 million last gen. Again, they kept the prices at $60 until the start of this gen, and released $60 versions of their cross gen games with no upgrade fees.

They understood that not every game costs $200 million to make, and released Astrobot for $60, and Miles for $50.

Even MS released Hellblade for $50 and Remedy released Alan Wake 2 for $50. $40 on PC.

MS did 4k 60 fps remasters of all their games for free. Sony only charged $10 for them. Most other publishers like Ubisoft and EA did them for free. Nintendo is charging $80 for them. For a remaster.

Either it's time to vote for Nintendo as the worst company in America, or go on our knees and beg forgiveness from these other publishers for giving us these graphically impressive 100 hour games for just $70. I'd rather do the former, but doing the latter for now. So Jimbo, Philbo, Bobby, and Monsuier Guillemot , I'm sorry, but we have a new greedy CEO in town and its no surprise his name is Doug Bowser.

 

[K' Dash]

Is haven't still digested the increase from 50 to 60

 

[asdasdasdbb]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony steals the "charge more for physical" idea.

 

[nial]

Nintendo's last good console was the Wii.

 

[ExtendEmbraceExtinguish]

These companies are all waiting for someone to move the needle then they all will.

More importantly; what nfs game is in your gif op?

 

[kanjobazooie]

They paved the way for Nintendo.

 

[Fabieter]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony steals the "charge more for physical" idea.

You think its a great idea to piss of retailers that way?

 

[Bartski]

just wait for 100 bucks GTA6 "early access"

 

[mayham2199]

I thought taketwo started the $70 game with NBA2k?

 

[cireza]

Game is already available at 70€ in Europe, so that 90€ price tag doesn't mean shit. If it's too expensive don't buy the game.

 

[Throttle]

Nintendo just guaranteed a price increase to 80 dollars next gen. They made it easy for Sony and Microsoft.

 

[SlimySnake]

These companies are all waiting for someone to move the needle then they all will.

More importantly; what nfs game is in your gif op?

NFS 2015

 

[ExtendEmbraceExtinguish]

NFS 2015

Ty.

 

[SlimySnake]

Nintendo just guaranteed a price increase to 80 dollars next gen. They made it easy for Sony and Microsoft.

Next gen? Dude, i wouldnt be surprised if this gives Sony,MS, EA and others the goahead to increase the price of their holiday 2025 games.

 

[simpatico]

Please watch the ending of AC Shadows before making statements like this.

 

[Bond007]

These companies are all waiting for someone to move the needle then they all will.

More importantly; what nfs game is in your gif op?

Looks like NFS 2015

 

[Topher]

They paved the way for Nintendo.

They didn't pave far enough for Nintendo apparently.

 

[Pop]

Im maybe possibly the biggest gamepass hater

but we all might be on that in 5 years

 

[Mr Moose]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony steals the "charge more for physical" idea.

Unlike Nintendo games, Xbox/PS physical games go down in price. They can try to charge whatever they want.

 

[ProtoByte]

With Nintendo, it's simply demand. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe launched at 60 dollars despite being a DE of the original version from the Wii U and sold 65 million units on the Switch alone. It is still currently more than 50 dollars.

Tears of The Kingdom launched 3 years into the 9th gen of PS and Xbox at 70 dollars on a machine less powerful than the PS3 in some ways, and sold 20 million. Breath of The Wild climbed to 32 million after years of being at 60 USD with no price drop.

With other publishers, it really will be about costs when the price goes from 70 to 80 bucks. 60 dollars in 2005 is 98 2025 dollars, and the games market has not and will not grow in users like it did in the HD era. Devs don't want to crunch and are make an average of six figure salaries before benefits in the States, voice actors are striking and want more and more money, dev times are skyrocketing. Naughty Dog spent years restructuring their studio for efficiency reasons and will spend 7 years worth of hundreds of top industry talent man hours on Intergalactic in San Fran. That's not sustainable.

Profit margins are down, corporate debt is up and expensive. Something's got to give.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Sony Started $70 game? I Though it was Take Two?

 

[SlimySnake]

With Nintendo, it's simply demand. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe launched at 60 dollars despite being a DE of the original version from the Wii U and sold 65 million units on the Switch alone. It is still currently more than 50 dollars.

Tears of The Kingdom launched 3 years into the 9th gen of PS and Xbox at 70 dollars on a machine less powerful than the PS3 in some ways, and sold 20 million. Breath of The Wild climbed to 32 million after years of being at 60 USD with no price drop.

With other publishers, it really will be about costs when the price goes from 70 to 80 bucks. 60 dollars in 2005 is 98 2025 dollars, and the games market has not and will not grow in users like it did in the HD era. Devs don't want to crunch and are make an average of six figure salaries before benefits in the States, voice actors are striking and want more and more money, dev times are skyrocketing. Naughty Dog spent years restructuring their studio for efficiency reasons and will spend 7 years worth of hundreds of top industry talent man hours on Intergalactic in San Fran. That's not sustainable.

Profit margins are down, corporate debt is up and expensive. Something's got to give.

Both Nintendo and Sony just had their most profitable gens ever.

This is just greed. And its going to blow up in their face when no one but the rich buy Mario kart World. 65 million. I dont think it clears 10 million in the first year. Quote me.

Also, Nintendo devs in Japan dont cost nearly as much as Sony, MS, EA and Acitvision devs on the west coast.

 

[Hero_Select]

Are you going to take back the apology when they start charging for more too?

 

[Windle Poons]

People moaned when Spectrum games were £7.95 but the Commodore 64 version was £8.95.

 

[touchfuzzy]

The problem is that you (and everyone else) didn't actually make a big deal out of it. Everyone complained online and then their $70 games sold millions and millions of copies. Exactly what will happen with Nintendo's games too.

 

[SlimySnake]

Sony Started $70 game? I Though it was Take Two?

Sony announced the next gen games at $70 at the PS5 showcase in September 2020. Activision soon followed a few hours later. Then Ubisoft and EA soon after.

Take2 might have been the first, i dont pay attention to sports games.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Sony announced the next gen games at $70 at the PS5 showcase in September 2020. Activision soon followed a few hours later. Then Ubisoft and EA soon after.

Take2 might have been the first, i dont pay attention to sports games.

Take Two raised the priced first then other publishers followed...

 

[SHAKEZ]

I bet GTA6 is going to have an "aggressive" price. Then it'll be over, at least games WILL have to be really good if I'm ever going to buy them on launch again. These companies will learn that they just can't put the price up without the quality.

 

[onQ123]

The prices will go down when the user-base grow big enough to support the games.


They could release the games multiplatform to cover the price of development but they want their console to sell.

 

[N0S]

All the big publishers will follow. Vote with your wallet!

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony steals the "charge more for physical" idea.

People until April 2nd, 2025: "It's outrageous that digital games cost more than physical when they don't need printing and distributing!"
Nintendo: literally makes physical more expensive than digital.
People after April 2nd, 2025: a thread like this one every ten minutes or so.

 

[GHG]

Sony started off the $70 price tag this gen followed quickly by Activision, and thanks to latest leaks and court filings, we now know that their games cost $200-300 million, and COD actually costs $500 million last gen. Again, they kept the prices at $60 until the start of this gen, and released $60 versions of their cross gen games with no upgrade fees.

2k and Activision lept first:

2K breaks gaming’s de facto $60 ceiling, asks $70 for next-gen NBA 2K21

Inflation has eroded big-budget gaming’s $60 standard for about 15 years now.

arstechnica.com

Confirmed: The new Call of Duty will cost $70 on next-gen consoles | VGC

Activision confirms increased pricepoint for Black Ops Cold War…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[Mr Moose]

Sony announced the next gen games at $70 at the PS5 showcase in September 2020. Activision soon followed a few hours later. Then Ubisoft and EA soon after.

Take2 might have been the first, i dont pay attention to sports games.

I thought it was Activision and EA that went first?
Edit: Oh it was 2K.

 

[SlimySnake]

2k and Activision lept first:

2K breaks gaming’s de facto $60 ceiling, asks $70 for next-gen NBA 2K21

Inflation has eroded big-budget gaming’s $60 standard for about 15 years now.

arstechnica.com

Confirmed: The new Call of Duty will cost $70 on next-gen consoles | VGC

Activision confirms increased pricepoint for Black Ops Cold War…

www.videogameschronicle.com

i stand corrected.

 

[Bert Big Balls]

$90 for a Nintendo game. A NINTENDO game. Lol.

 

[MiguelItUp]

All the big publishers will follow. Vote with your wallet!

I appreciate people trying to voice their displeasure wherever they can. The unfortunate part is that the majority will still consume, so I don't think there's anything holding this back.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Obviously this is about Nintendo charging $90 for Mario Kart World while it looks two generations behind Forza Horizon, The Crew, NFS and other open world racers from these so called Evil/Greedy publishers.

EA was literally voted the worst company in the world during the gen when they were charging $60 for games that looked like this:

Sony Take2 started off the $70 price tag this gen followed quickly by Activision, and later Sony. Thanks to latest leaks and court filings, we now know that their games cost $200-300 million, and COD actually costs $500 million last gen. Again, they kept the prices at $60 until the start of this gen, and released $60 versions of their cross gen games with no upgrade fees.

They understood that not every game costs $200 million to make, and released Astrobot for $60, and Miles for $50.

Even MS released Hellblade for $50 and Remedy released Alan Wake 2 for $50. $40 on PC.

MS did 4k 60 fps remasters of all their games for free. Sony only charged $10 for them. Most other publishers like Ubisoft and EA did them for free. Nintendo is charging $80 for them. For a remaster.

Either it's time to vote for Nintendo as the worst company in America, or go on our knees and beg forgiveness from these other publishers for giving us these graphically impressive 100 hour games for just $70. I'd rather do the former, but doing the latter for now. So Jimbo, Philbo, Bobby, and Monsuier Guillemot , I'm sorry, but we have a new greedy CEO in town and its no surprise his name is Doug Bowser.

Where is this $90 Mario kart world at? I still haven't seen a ligit US ad saying it's $89.99 yet.

 

[mayham2199]

2k and Activision lept first:

2K breaks gaming’s de facto $60 ceiling, asks $70 for next-gen NBA 2K21

Inflation has eroded big-budget gaming’s $60 standard for about 15 years now.

arstechnica.com

Confirmed: The new Call of Duty will cost $70 on next-gen consoles | VGC

Activision confirms increased pricepoint for Black Ops Cold War…

www.videogameschronicle.com

Ok glad someone corrected I thought it was taketwo but wasn't sure.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Obviously this is about Nintendo charging $90 for Mario Kart World while it looks two generations behind Forza Horizon, The Crew, NFS and other open world racers from these so called Evil/Greedy publishers.

EA was literally voted the worst company in the world during the gen when they were charging $60 for games that looked like this:

Sony Take2 started off the $70 price tag this gen followed quickly by Activision, and later Sony. Thanks to latest leaks and court filings, we now know that their games cost $200-300 million, and COD actually costs $500 million last gen. Again, they kept the prices at $60 until the start of this gen, and released $60 versions of their cross gen games with no upgrade fees.

They understood that not every game costs $200 million to make, and released Astrobot for $60, and Miles for $50.

Even MS released Hellblade for $50 and Remedy released Alan Wake 2 for $50. $40 on PC.

MS did 4k 60 fps remasters of all their games for free. Sony only charged $10 for them. Most other publishers like Ubisoft and EA did them for free. Nintendo is charging $80 for them. For a remaster.

Either it's time to vote for Nintendo as the worst company in America, or go on our knees and beg forgiveness from these other publishers for giving us these graphically impressive 100 hour games for just $70. I'd rather do the former, but doing the latter for now. So Jimbo, Philbo, Bobby, and Monsuier Guillemot , I'm sorry, but we have a new greedy CEO in town and its no surprise his name is Doug Bowser.

What is certain is that I would never forgive Jim Ryan or the inept Hulst for what happened at Japan Studio... that's clear.

 

[Loomy]

This shouldn't be surprising to anyone.

Nintendo operates in a segment of their own with virtually 0 competition.

 

[ProtoByte]

Both Nintendo and Sony just had their most profitable gens ever.

Sony is definitely not having their most profitable gen right now:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/96494/analysis-why-playstations-profits-are-so-low/index.html

And you remember the Insomniac leak. The margins on the actual games is low af.

And, not making excuses for Nintendo, but the gen before was a cataclysmic, existential failure. They're not trying to just get by anymore, no one is. The games market has matured.

This is just greed. And it's going to blow up in their face when no one but the rich buy Mario kart World. 65 million. I dont think it clears 10 million in the first year. Quote me.

I'll hold you to that. I think it does somewhere between 10 and 15 million. It has been 8 years for MK8D to be fair thought.

Also, Nintendo devs in Japan dont cost nearly as much as Sony, MS, EA and Acitvision devs on the west coast.

True, which is why I said that it comes down to demand for Nintendo. 65 million at ~60 per copy indicates HUGE demand. This is the first actually new Mario Kart in 11 years. They think it's justified, and they're probably right as far as what the market will bear.

But don't forget when everyone was clapping like seals when Nintendo raised their employee's salaries a couple years back. No one should've thought that was never going to get passed onto consumers. And Nintendo is apparently one of the higher paying companies in Japan.

Nintendo Is Raising Its Employee Pay By 10% In Japan

Furukawa: "It's important for our long-term growth"

www.nintendolife.com

 

[SlimySnake]

Where is this $90 Mario kart world at? I still haven't seen a ligit US ad saying it's $89.99 yet.

Physical versions of Nintendo games are getting a $10 price hike.

It is indeed $80 on digital.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

The amount of recent games I would pay $90 for could be counted on one Ninja Turtle hand.

 

[nial]

I appreciate people trying to voice their displeasure wherever they can. The unfortunate part is that the majority will still consume, so I don't think there's anything holding this back.

We definitely still have to see. I expect the extremely hardcore fanbase to show up for Nintendo Switch 2 and Mario Kart World, but this isn't exactly looking appealing to the casual market the same way Nintendo Switch and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe were 8 years ago.

 

[damidu]

They paved the way for Nintendo.

and now it will come full-circle

 

[XXL]

They didn't pave far enough for Nintendo apparently.

 

[Artistic]

You are forgiven.

 

[mayham2199]

Sony is definitely not having their most profitable gen right now:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/96494/analysis-why-playstations-profits-are-so-low/index.html

That link is great and all but Sony themselves have already said it is their most profitable.



This was information that was provided just after the earnings call. They aren't goin to lie about it.

 

[Embearded]

I would like to know the budget of first party Nintendo games.
I doubt they cost half as much as TLoU, Spiderman, Halo, Forza etc

In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if only the car licenses of Forza cover the costs of 2 years of development for Mario Kart.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Physical versions of Nintendo games are getting a $10 price hike.

It is indeed $80 on digital.

Best Buy says their price is $80 for MKW and $70 for DK. Course that might be buying a key from BB and not the physical version.