How do people study in France? I was an engineering student in the U.S. and there were days I was studying or working at bizarre hours and had to eat at bizarre hours. I appreciate a restaurant that can serve me.
They eat at home?
How do people study in France? I was an engineering student in the U.S. and there were days I was studying or working at bizarre hours and had to eat at bizarre hours. I appreciate a restaurant that can serve me.
who the hell goes to a restaurant at 4 pm
seriously, that OP kinda infuriates me
My point was particularly excluding high obesity rate areas in the US. Because place in the US can be pretty comparable to Europe. Which is entirely in line with most of the first pages thinking, that the OP was just hitting touristy areas in Europe that skewed his perspective.
Never the difference in cuisine even if fattier, saltier or sweeter is presented in an entirely different manner in the US. Where HFCS and giant portions reign supreme. Where the EU has much tighter restrictions on food in general.
Most high obesity areas in the US tend to suffer from food deserts, urban decay, poor walkability, low income population. It tends to be worse down in comfort food nation US too (the south.)
Those are sugar cubes tho
Of course germans user Biergartens, especially in Bavaria. Also: the Döner you get in Germany is german food. Turkish immigrants developed it here in Germany from the original Döner. It's the best meal on the planet. That's a fact.Biergartens? Germans don't eat there? Everyone there was speaking German...the waiters hardly spoke English. And yeah that was in Bavaria.
In Berlin I didn't really eat German food. I ate at a small hole in the wall Vietnamese restaurant and some doner places to save money.
I see. That might be true.I don't deny that they love their cars or that they love them more than the the US. But German and European cities are more liveable than US cities, as a whole, for pedestrians, people, cyclists and transit riders. With the exception of a few Amercan cities, you must own a car to survive, and transit riders are viewed as second class citizens in cities not names NY, SF, Chicago, Seattle, or the usual suspects.
Thankfully it seems to be changing....somewhat.....but the remnants of sprawl and what it has down to our public health (and much, much more) will be felt for a very long one to come.
Übermatik;179366090 said:Forgive me for saying this, but QUE? I I've in the Uk and eat healthily, and in my experience mainland Europe is even better. Sure, you get a lot of eating habits like anywhere else, but at least it's stuff like locally grown bread and stuff instead of processed foods or crisps n' shit.
I'd say where Europe falls short is alcohol intake... which people argue over anyway. Bottle of Red Wine a day? Good, bad? Eh, who cares, it happens anyway.
This is so bizzare to read.
It might be free of bacteria due to chlorine, but it also tastes like shit because of that. How can they put that water even in your drinks as ice cubes?
And smoking. God, Europeans love smoking. It's so nasty.
Biergartens? Germans don't eat there? Everyone there was speaking German...the waiters hardly spoke English. And yeah that was in Bavaria.
In Berlin I didn't really eat German food. I ate at a small hole in the wall Vietnamese restaurant and some doner places to save money.
I beer too.
I'd rather dump croutons in my coffee than taint it with sugar cubes
Americans don't? I won't deny that there is a lot of smoking going on, but I don't believe america is free of that. I've seen an episode of Mad Men.And smoking. God, Europeans love smoking. It's so nasty.
Did he say that? People don't usually go into a restaurant every day. People usually eat at home. In Germany at least.Do you think Germans are each and every day at a biergarten? That's like saying every American eats at McDonald's 7 times a week.
They don't have kioks? This is terrible.How can americans live without kiosks?
Looking how related obesity is to income, education etc.. Sure, there are places in the USA which even have a lower obesity rate than places in Europe.
But the obesity rate is higher tjrough all social classes with comperable factors in the USA compared to their European counterparts.
Ha! UKGaf here and this is a funny thread. Such cliche 'Ignorant American' generalisation.
For one, as already noted multiple times, hotel/hostel food catering to tourists is hardly indicative of the eating habits of the local populatation.
Two, portion sizes. I've travelled in America, it was awesome and I loved it, but the portion sizes were way above sensible. Portion sizes in Europe are a lot more appropriate. I bought some fudge in Texas and the girl have me a 2lb box of the stuff, it lasted like 2 weeks. Our culture is less based on car worship, we move around under our own steam more. From my time in America, it was often painfully clear that I wasn't meant to walk very much, the intent appeared to be I drive everywhere, even between adjacent retail places where no option existed to easily skip between the two. Very odd.
Three, yep free tap water. Just ask. Not iced water, not bottled water, tap. Free! Whilst we're making sweeping generalisations I expect you got 'touristed' as you swaggered in wearing your khakis and fanny pack asking to use the restroom.
What? "Europeans"? Why did you even travel?And smoking. God, Europeans love smoking. It's so nasty.
The water thing has to vary by country because in Prague, bartenders got fucking angry at me when I asked for tap water, and at restaurants they refused every time.
In Germany, I couldn't get tap water. Either they played dumb when I said I didn't want mineral water or they just didn't want to serve it.
Finally in Spain I got free water, and some places in France.
Biergartens? Germans don't eat there? Everyone there was speaking German...the waiters hardly spoke English. And yeah that was in Bavaria.
In Berlin I didn't really eat German food. I ate at a small hole in the wall Vietnamese restaurant and some doner places to save money.
Americans don't? I won't deny that there is a lot of smoking going on, but I don't believe america is free of that. I've seen an episode of Mad Men.Did he say that? People don't usually go into a restaurant every day. People usually eat at home. In Germany at least.They don't have kioks? This is terrible.
Just keep this in mind:
http://i.imgur.com/oqR2tR4.jpg[img]
And 'carbs make you fat' is a goddamn lie. The real thing is not WHAT you're eating, is HOW MUCH you're eating.
Italy and our pasta\pizza\pane(bread) obsession while being the second lowest obesity nation in the EU kind of proves it.[/QUOTE]
we need to adjust that culinary despair line for England. make it 45 degrees downwards from the overcooked pasta meridian
Candy. Sugary drinks, And newspapers.
It's like you're literally telling me what I pointed out in my first post. I'm really not seeing your point.
Just keep this in mind:
And 'carbs make you fat' is a goddamn lie. The real thing is not WHAT you're eating, is HOW MUCH you're eating.
Italy and our pastapizzapane(bread) obsession while being the second lowest obesity nation in the EU kind of proves it.
Ha! UKGaf here and this is a funny thread. Such cliche 'Ignorant American' generalisation.
For one, as already noted multiple times, hotel/hostel food catering to tourists is hardly indicative of the eating habits of the local populatation.
Two, portion sizes. I've travelled in America, it was awesome and I loved it, but the portion sizes were way above sensible. Portion sizes in Europe are a lot more appropriate. I bought some fudge in Texas and the girl have me a 2lb box of the stuff, it lasted like 2 weeks. Our culture is less based on car worship, we move around under our own steam more. From my time in America, it was often painfully clear that I wasn't meant to walk very much, the intent appeared to be I drive everywhere, even between adjacent retail places where no option existed to easily skip between the two. Very odd.
Three, yep free tap water. Just ask. Not iced water, not bottled water, tap. Free! Whilst we're making sweeping generalisations I expect you got 'touristed' as you swaggered in wearing your khakis and fanny pack asking to use the restroom.
There's a lot of fat fuckas in the UK to be fair. I live in Loughborough, which is full of Uni jicks, and still they're all on fat scooters here.
Actually it's more like the type of carbs you're eating. Your food has almost no simple or refined carbs like fructose. American bread and pasta is chock full of it.
The water thing has to vary by country because in Prague, bartenders got fucking angry at me when I asked for tap water, and at restaurants they refused every time.
In Germany, I couldn't get tap water. Either they played dumb when I said I didn't want mineral water or they just didn't want to serve it.
Finally in Spain I got free water, and some places in France.
Actually it's just calories.
That's irrelevant to the fact I personally think it's ridiculous if you're implying to me that it's wrong to serve food at those hours solely to cockblock people from eating at weird hours. Since when is it someone's place to judge when to eat? I've had a busy-ass schedule and some days I'm lucky if I can even find time for breakfast or lunch. How do people study in France? I was an engineering student in the U.S. and there were days I was studying or working at bizarre hours and had to eat at bizarre hours. I appreciate a restaurant that can serve me.
I'm also 6'3" and weigh 165 lbs so I'm definitely not obese. I'm skinny and I don't overeat.
Good point. I wish the subway had fresh baked goods here :[When I visited Paris, I saw a lot of remarkable little delis in their metro stations selling sandwiches and baked goods. God, those were everywhere and all looked and smelled amazing. There were also fruit vendors as well.
In contrast, this is what we have in New York.
Candy. Sugary drinks, And newspapers.
Thread backfire? Thread backfire.
But why go to a restaurant? When i'm working late(which i often do) i go home and cook me some food or i'm too lazy and just eat something fast like bread or something. Going to eat at a restaurant or some other place every other day would destroy my bank account.
Are you serious?
I mean I'm kind of jealous at how leisurely French people get to live their lives in general, but in the U.S. all bets are off in terms of regularity. Your work shift might be during lunch. Your job might have a meeting that interrupts lunch. Your classes might be from 8-5 pm on Tuesday and Thursday. You might have been trapped on a plane for 6 hours that didn't serve food or food you could enjoy. There are plenty of reasons to try to find somewhere to eat at any hour.
It's because America has an always on attitude. Always working, always busy, always doing something. Where the rest of the world is more relaxed.
Same reason you get 10 vacation days in the US, while the rest of the world gets 20+.
don't mess with Europe-GAF
don't mess with Europe-GAF
That terrifies me, ex co worker moved to America and had to fight to get 14 days holiday, while we all get 25.It's because America has an always on attitude. Always working, always busy, always doing something. Where the rest of the world is more relaxed.
Same reason you get 10 vacation days in the US, while the rest of the world gets 20+.