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My coworker just said he hates Americans
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And I find it disgusting and a little bit amusing how you weaklings in Canada and Europe have to make up reasons to hate the United States. Come on now, tell me, wouldn't you want your country to be as powerful as the United States? If you answered yes, good, you're honest with yourself. If you answered no, then quite lying to yourself.darscot said:
C'mon. Elvis did it, and Elvis was so cool he either died on his crapper or faked his death and works at a Burger King in Indiana somewhere.Be-Ah-Hui said:
NLB2 said:
Yeah, you've beaten your geopolitical penis envy horseshit into the ground. Still doesn't account for us Americans who hate our country and don't think it should have the power it does now.
In general, there are a large enough group of ignorant people that it's safe to say I hate Americans. But by the same token, I probably hate a lot of people in a lot of other countries too. Nothing wrong with that IMO. If you're dissatisfied with where you're at, there's no reason you should have to stay quiet about it. Afterall, that's the catalyst for change, getting vocal about your problems. I've always despised the US government, since I first moved here in the 80's. They've only exploited the islands and the rest of the Americas. It's a lot easier to see it when you're outside the country, b/c the news media here doesn't tell the full story of things. Really, in order to get a proper perspective, you HAVE to live on the other side of the fence for a bit, otherwise, you're just being spoonfed what your government wants you to hear.
As a result, it's easy to hate Americans, b/c a lot of the populace has bought into their own hype. The hype of America being the greatest country on the world. The hype of selfish greed. The hype of imperialism being masked as spreading democracy. During the Cold War, we villified the Russians for doing exactly what we did. It's one thing to have a government that lies to its citizens, but when the citizens eat it up wholesale and then have the nerve to turn around and blame other people in other countries for stuff, it's a bit...frustrating, to say the least. But it's not all Americans as evidenced by this forum alone. It's just easy to get that perception, b/c the morons seem to be the most vocal ones. It's not fair to paint everyone wit the same brush, but it's understandable. PEACE.
As a result, it's easy to hate Americans, b/c a lot of the populace has bought into their own hype. The hype of America being the greatest country on the world. The hype of selfish greed. The hype of imperialism being masked as spreading democracy. During the Cold War, we villified the Russians for doing exactly what we did. It's one thing to have a government that lies to its citizens, but when the citizens eat it up wholesale and then have the nerve to turn around and blame other people in other countries for stuff, it's a bit...frustrating, to say the least. But it's not all Americans as evidenced by this forum alone. It's just easy to get that perception, b/c the morons seem to be the most vocal ones. It's not fair to paint everyone wit the same brush, but it's understandable. PEACE.
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I intentional did not weigh in on the argument with the whole Canada US playground. Yet you come back with this. The funniest thing is as a Canadian I feel my nation is far more powerful then the US. We do really have a different perception. Your massive war machine doesn't give you power. It's actually the exact opposite. I don't need to carry a gun to be strong. I can literaly go anywhere in the world (except the US) and the only thing I need to protect my ass is a red Maple Leaf. That's power!
I already covered that, too. You're just trying to be cool. Its sort of like this guy I know who pretended to be gay because he thought it would make him cool. You guys realize Europe hates us, have some misconception that Europe is cool, and decide to emulate Europe. Its really pretty obvious.Raoul Duke said:
I'd also like to note with a highlight how you attacked the United States on a moral basis, so I guess it is also a possiblity that you've been hanging out with too many whako weakling Unitarian types who hate America and American economic policy regardless of what America or American economic policy does.
purchasing power parity - $958.7 billion (2004 est.)darscot said:
source: http://cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ca.html#Econ
purchasing power parity - $10.99 trillion
source: http://cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html#Econ
Yeah, you're just wrong. And lying to yourself.
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according to your logic not only is our government a bunch of greedy corporate scumbags. They are also liars. Liars who dont even have the balls to admit why they were going to war.
I'd have a lot more respect for them if they'd just say look lets level with everyone we're just doing this for oil. Alteast then I wouldnt have to listen to their bullshit stories about spreading freedom
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PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
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Haha, well there's no risk of me getting richer any time soon on account of the dead.
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Which accomplishes what? I mean, I vote, my voice is "heard" those who I vote for aren't in office. Awesome. Now I'm not going to complain or anything because what's done is done, but what else can I really do? Then again I don't know why I bother with this stuff, because I'm really far too ignorant.
It just my blunt belief that a lot of people need to get a hobby.
You obviously don't understand class parity. WE'RE NOT FUCKING COMMUNISTS IN THE UNITED STATES. My quality of life is ridiculously superb. Aside from having a shitty job over the summer, I've never really had any bad experiences related to money in my life. I'm attending an expensive college, I live in an expensive city, I have a nice house to live in over the summer when I'm home from college. I have a nice car. I have health insurance. And my taxes are way fucking lower than yours.Tabris said:
GREAT FUCKING NATION INDEED!
Well you just admited you didn't care about health-care and social services because you don't need it.
So in this case, yes, the moral ground is higher on this side of the fence.
I'm happy to pay my taxes so my country can improve the quality of life of EVERYONE (not seperated by income or class)
So in this case, yes, the moral ground is higher on this side of the fence.
I'm happy to pay my taxes so my country can improve the quality of life of EVERYONE (not seperated by income or class)
I agree with you one hundred percent. I have a personal dislike for the current administration. I feel that the preperation for war was done poorly and that many unnecesary American soldiers have died because of it, not to mention the cost of the war is much greater because of the poor preperation.nathkenn said:
Yeah man, Narwhals are the unicorns of the sea. You can't beat 'em.
Hey Canada, I never hear an American bitch about policy in Canada, yet constantly hear Canadians bitching about the US. I say quit your bitching and do something about it. You have your system we have ours. If you want to change that use the superior power that your maple leaf somehow grants you and change things. Oh, and hey, you have public health care, we have stealth fucking planes, they could be bombing your precious natural resources right now![/vent]
Maybe you need to learn to listen. I hear nothing but Americans politics bitching about our policies. You bitch about our drug laws, you bitch cause we won't go to Iraq, you bitch cause are lumber is cheaper, you bitch about our beef industry. Our electricity, water the list goes on and an. Even our air for fuck sakes.
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It's funny we say the exact same thing about Americans. It's just we value things differently. As Canadians we find it absurd to not have healthcare. As Americans you find it absurd to not have military strength. You wave your flag to show who you ARE we wave ours to show who we are NOT.
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Yeah, because we all think alike, gj.
I find it absurd that some Canadians can't see the negatives of your health care system. I find it absurd that the Raptors kept VC so long. I find it absurd that I have all this work to do and I'm still posting on this messageboard.
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I think you're the one that needs to listen, what you call bitching about your drug policy is much more often Americans saying to other Americans, "Why can't we have a prescription drug policy like Canada's?" What they are not saying is that Canada's prescription drug policy sucks and our is better. As far as the others go, I rarely if ever hear some say, "Those stupid Canadians with their clean air, and plentiful lumber (can be applied to water and elecricity)". Why would we bitch about your cheap lumber when a significant portion of lumber in the US comes from Canada. Again, I never heard anyone bitch because Canada did go into Iraq, manily due to the fact that Canada didn't make a big show of not going. Americans bitch about Russia, Germany, and France not going but not about Canada not going. I highly doubt more than 5% of Americans expected you to go. Finaly, we do bitch about your beef industry!
I do, however, hear Canadians calling Americans stupid and calling our President stupid, saying that Americans are fat, American cities are diry. Again this is all heresay and such but it's honestly what I hear.
The implication that Americans are inferior/weaker than Canadians is facist.
Some Canadians say that, sure. Still, at least they're heavily inspired. But I do think it's a mistake to generalize so much when there are many, many exceptions.max_cool said:
Facist?
Did you mean fascist? Because I don't think that makes any more sense.
Honestly, I personally do think Americans are, overall, most likely "inferior" (but not weaker, for whatever that might mean). Partly because I'm Canadian, of course, but I try to step outside any bias (if that's possible) and I see no reason to think differently.
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After 9/11 most of the world was in America's corner. Now the same cannot be siad. America destroyed a lot of good will it was given. To me would I want Australia to a (super)power- yes but I wouldn't want it to be the sole power in the world. I think some Americans (politicains and some radicals in the public) have let the notion of being the only super power get to them and think they are beyond recourse - ala the UN.
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all of you can go straight to hell with the "holier-than thou" attitude. but specially you nlb2.
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25% is not a majority ownership- it's just the largest single contribution.
The UN may not be able to use santctions or military actions on America (yet) but it doesn't bend to America's will as some Americans think it should.
The UN may not be able to use santctions or military actions on America (yet) but it doesn't bend to America's will as some Americans think it should.
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I think we both agree on that all I'm saying is that the UN is not America's 'Yes Man'.
Has this running joke become more of an untouchable outlet for you now? The deadpan stuff doesn't work all that well with you.NLB2 said:
I've talked/read about this a whole lot. Particularly in my Canadian Government class. Canadians define themselves as individuals. When asked about our national identity, we kind of shrug and list off things that we think might make us Canadians. There's no one ethnicity connecting us, and our history is relatively mild and uneventful, so when it comes to pride we have unique reasons. It's not so much that we have much of an innate connection to our 'homeland', but that it provides a great quality of life and we're highly respected as a 'people'.
Unfortunately, we're all pretty Americanized and often thought of as very similar (until you spend quality time, I've found). So, since the US is the top dog in the world, we often consider ourselves as if there's an American base and what makes us distinct from it. But that's mostly for purposes of description.
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I wouldn't. And I'm not lying to myself, maybe that comes from NZ not having the Population to RULE THE WORLD, but it doesn't interest me at all. What would interest me is that dick George Bush giving us a free trade deal. We even threw away our 20 or so aeroplanes with guns on them. Fuck it we don't need them. Things are great here and we NEVER get wasted by terrorists. I wouldn't want Australia to be a super dooper power like america either. Granted I'm not a European or Canandian, but I think I'm still encompassed by your "We rule, you suck" attitude.
I can't actually tell if your fucked perception is a put on or not.
Also if GWB could look like less of a smarmy wanker everytime he says "It's a real tragedy when our people die over there" everytime 40-50 of your soldiers get smoked in one go, that would go a long way to extending his credibility. I mean, you can actually see him not giving a shit, HES NEARLY GRINNING! It's amazing anybody likes this guy at all. seriously.
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