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My Hero Academia Anime |OT| Go Beyond! PLUS ULTRA! (No Manga spoilers!)

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Jintor

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So I think Deku's costume mask looks better here in the anime than in the manga.

it looked cooler in monochrome, but the weight they can give to the material the bottom mask is made of is great.

I'd never quite put together that the 'grin' was AllMight as well. lmao.
 
A) yes

B) probably not japan exclusive tho

Ding ding ding. Really should have been disciplined for using his power in class right at him. He's seen as a golden child because of his power.

This isn't even a Japan-only thing.

In general Asia, even where I live (India), it's prestigious to "produce" a child or student who accomplishes great things, because those achievements are attributed to the teacher or parent.

So promising students have their flaws overlooked, exactly like Bakugou does. Don't want people blaming you or his parents, do you? And that's why Deku's mom looks so depressed early on, his "failure" is her failure too.

That's why MHA is written as it is, it's motivation to the children (and adults) that read Shounen Jump.

I have trouble believing a gifted student could just whip out a knife and point it at a student even if it was just to scare him in Japan without some heavy consequences. That's pretty much the equivalent of what Bakugou does when he's being watched, and much worse when he isn't.
 

Jintor

Member
I dunno. Middle schools are notoriously reluctant to kick students out. Though not getting disciplined at all is a bit weird, yeah.

Japanese schools mostly rely on the group consensus notion where no student wants to rock the boat to much, and are usually at a loss to do anything when something happens. (Interestingly, most of the problem students in my school are all teenage girls)
 

Playsage

Member
I am unable to see all the hype surrounding this Manga/Anime up to this point. Seems another generic shounen series (with good humor at least) to me. Best part is Deku's and his mother's interactions. How much better does it get later on? And how much does it take to reach that point?

Also, something that's bugging me:
How did the girl saved Deku from becoming one with the street when her power is stated to only negate gravitational pull? She can stop the acceleration, not the motion...

Kinda nitpicky, but still...
 

Jintor

Member
it's difficult to say. I don't think Boku no Hero is a show that will really swing anyone who's on the fence. To me, there's no 'standout' arcs where the show/manga suddenly revs up like crazy; it's just solid all the way through. And if you don't like what it is now (or are just indifferent to it), I don't think it'll really change your mind.
 

Meffer

Member
I am unable to see all the hype surrounding this Manga/Anime up to this point. Seems another generic shounen series (with good humor at least) to me. Best part is Deku's and his mother's interactions. How much better does it get later on? And how much does it take to reach that point?

Also, something that's bugging me:
How did the girl saved Deku from becoming one with the street when her power is stated to only negate gravitational pull? She can stop the acceleration, not the motion...

Kinda nitpicky, but still...
The highlight of the manga is it's fast pacing and moving from arc to the next. There's no bloat but there's a lot of characterization and details without losing focus. And the art and action is great too. As the post before me, it's just solid all the way and it's at a very high point right now. Shit is going down.
 

Nightbird

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I'd say My Hero Academia is a generic Shounen. BUT it's a generic shounen that executes it's tropes perfectly, and with the twists at the right points.


Like the "power that'll slowly kill you trope" It's something that a lot of Shounen do, but Hero Academia is one of those few who actually mean it. Overusing one for all will destroy Izukus body, and even with the help of recovery girl he won't survive it if he goes overboard. The series made it pretty clear.


That's one example. The series if full with standard tropes but done different. This makes you feel like the series is something different, something special.

It's when you go in analytically that you'll notice that it does nothing special.

Or to make it short: MHA is not good because of what it does, but how it does it.

I've seen a great image of an 4chan post explaining it, but I don't have the link anymore (I think there were spoilers in there anyway, so I couldn't have posted it here either way)
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
I'd say My Hero Academia is a generic Shounen. BUT it's a generic shounen that executes it's tropes perfectly, and with the twists at the right points.


Like the "power that'll slowly kill you trope" It's something that a lot of Shounen do, but Hero Academia is one of those few who actually mean it. Overusing one for all will destroy Izukus body, and even with the help of recovery girl he won't survive it if he goes overboard. The series made it pretty clear.


That's one example. The series if full with standard tropes but done different. This makes you feel like the series is something different, something special.

It's when you go in analytically that you'll notice that it does nothing special.

Or to make it short: MHA is not good because of what it does, but how it does it.

I've seen a great image of an 4chan post explaining it, but I don't have the link anymore (I think there were spoilers in there anyway, so I couldn't have posted it here either way)

Believe me I have noticed but I can't say the execution is anything special at this point either. It does have flashes of interesting ideas but to say that the execution has been good is not something I could agree with. Power creativity is more common then you might think and MHA has to move on beyond just Deku being clever about it. That is to say his stuff has been interesting but beyond that the supporting cast such as it is still has yet to be fully formed. BONES is really hamstrung by this format.
 

cntr

Banned
@Shard

I'm pretty sure MHA just isn't for you. Every post you've made in this thead is a mood dampening complaint. Based on the intro section of a manga that's been going on for nearly one and a half years.

It's annoying seeing you make complaints about things the manga addressed long ago, since I don't want to post spoilers. It feels like you're more interested in making complaints than enjoying the show.
 
I mean with a western show isn't the whole mantra "give it 12 episodes"?

Complaining about not seeing appropriate growth in the first five episodes of a long running shounen series adaptation really just seems to be nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.
 

B.O.O.M

Member
Fucking love the anime..really nicely done so far

Guys I need a HUUUUUUUGE favor! Pls if someone could find me the battle theme that starts playing when shit gets real I would be soooooooo appreciative! Need some hype up music stat and I can't seem to find it

Essentially the original of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7bsRCdcAs

Thank u for any able and kind soul who can help me out
 

cntr

Banned
How did the girl saved Deku from becoming one with the street when her power is stated to only negate gravitational pull? She can stop the acceleration, not the motion...

Kinda nitpicky, but still...
She negates all motion and acceleration generated by gravity. It's the cartoon physics version of gravity.
 

Cerium

Member
Believe me I have noticed but I can't say the execution is anything special at this point either. It does have flashes of interesting ideas but to say that the execution has been good is not something I could agree with. Power creativity is more common then you might think and MHA has to move on beyond just Deku being clever about it. That is to say his stuff has been interesting but beyond that the supporting cast such as it is still has yet to be fully formed. BONES is really hamstrung by this format.
MHA is better if you marathon the Manga and get to appreciate the blistering pace and charming characters.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
MHA is better if you marathon the Manga and get to appreciate the blistering pace and charming characters.

That is one of the most frustrating things about this 13 episode format as we are clearly not getting to when the series opens up like most shonen does. That being said if my viewpoints on the MHA does not jibe with the general aura of good feelings you all might have for the work, well, I don't know what to tell you.
 

cntr

Banned
The anime is up to Chapter 8.

For context, One Piece arrived at the first battle with BUGGY in Chapter 8.

MHA established the series premise, arrived at UA, gave Deku character development, revealed multiple characters and their powers, had multiple battles, and did it all with shounen haato

One Piece would seem shallow if you judged it by the same standard. MHA has already given more than is normal for a shounen.
 

Aureon

Please do not let me serve on a jury. I am actually a crazy person.
Infinite Hype.

Gotta say, i distinctly remember the manga being amazing for the first few chapters, and then falling off a cliff.
I don't think actually doing the school is a good idea - a timeskip would've probably worked better.
But we're in for the ride anyway.
 

Cerium

Member
That is one of the most frustrating things about this 13 episode format as we are clearly not getting to when the series opens up like most shonen does. That being said if my viewpoints on the MHA does not jibe with the general aura of good feelings you all might have for the work, well, I don't know what to tell you.
I agree with everyone else that MHA is remarkably consistent in quality. It shows Midoriya's growth at a convincing rate; he starts off as kind of a bitch but turns out pretty badass over time, in a way that feels so natural that you hardly even notice.

If there is any point at which it takes a step up, for me it would be when they start to really establish his main rival.
And no it's not Bakugou. But you have seen him.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
I agree with everyone else that MHA is remarkably consistent in quality. It shows Midoriya's growth at a convincing rate; he starts off as kind of a bitch but turns out pretty badass over time, in a way that feels so natural that you hardly even notice.

If there is any point at which it takes a step up, for me it would be when they start to really establish his main rival.
And no it's not Bakugou. But you have seen him.


Right, to qualify my position with the supporting cast, this show doesn't live in a vacuum. While Deku can be annoying as shonen protagonists tend to be at times, he is not strong enough to carry this series by himself. To go back to the One Piece example, MHA has its Luffy but doesn't have its Zoro or Nami or Usopp yet and the absence is glaring.

Anyway, my biggest problem with this show is, well, the hype. Its production is wonderful as Studio BONES is noted for, the music is good, everything is operating on a very consistent level. Yet when I see posts spouting off infinite hype over a series that has done little to earn such praise I take that into consideration. I may have said this before but it still holds true, MHA really hasn't notched above say Ushio and Tora or Assassination Classroom at this point.
 

Moaradin

Member
All the hype is based off 80+ chapters of the manga. Not really fair to compare that peak to the anime, which has only adapted 8 chapters so far.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
All the hype is based off 80+ chapters of the manga. Not really fair to compare that peak to the anime, which has only adapted 8 chapters so far.

Indeed and I think some people forget this isn't the manga thread, this is a thread about the anime and not everybody is going have read the manga. I can only compare to what has aired so far.
 

Cerium

Member
Right, to qualify my position with the supporting cast, this show doesn't live in a vacuum. While Deku can be annoying as shonen protagonists tend to be at times, he is not strong enough to carry this series by himself. To go back to the One Piece example, MHA has its Luffy but doesn't have its Zoro or Nami or Usopp yet and the absence is glaring.

Anyway, my biggest problem with this show is, well, the hype. Its production is wonderful as Studio BONES is noted for, the music is good, everything is operating on a very consistent level. Yet when I see posts spouting off infinite hype over a series that has done little to earn such praise I take that into consideration. I may have said this before but it still holds true, MHA really hasn't notched above say Ushio and Tora or Assassination Classroom at this point.
There is no really consistent supporting cast; everyone in the class gets their chance to shine and Midoriya is paired with different characters in each arc. Not even Uraraka gets lopsided time. Only the rival and maybe Iida get outsize attention. The result is that it feels like a real classroom; you know everyone and can pick favorites. It also let's the Mangaka mix things up at will.
 
MHA is a standard shonen that subverts just enough to keep it original, while executing extremely well on the elements it plays straight.

Maybe they would have been better off trying to cram multiple chapters into each episode, just to get to the point where things start rolling, but I'm really liking the pacing.

There is no really consistent supporting cast; everyone in the class gets their chance to shine and Midoriya is paired with different characters in each arc. Not even Uraraka gets lopsided time. Only the rival and maybe Iida get outsize attention. The result is that it feels like a real classroom; you know everyone and can pick favorites. It also let's the Mangaka mix things up at will.

I'd throw Todoroki into there, but yeah, by and large they're really good about not overfocusing on a handful of characters.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
There is no really consistent supporting cast; everyone in the class gets their chance to shine and Midoriya is paired with different characters in each arc. Not even Uraraka gets lopsided time. Only the rival and maybe Iida get outsize attention. The result is that it feels like a real classroom; you know everyone and can pick favorites. It also let's the Mangaka mix things up.

See, that sounds interesting and is an actual shake up on how things are handled, the kind of things to give an indemnity to this show.
 

cntr

Banned
You thought Zoro and Nami were well developed characters by the Buggy arc?

The series doesn't exist in a vacuum, but neither do your criticisms. Every single criticism you've made can be resolved with some patience. You have the context to understand we're talking as manga readers.

If you see us praising the supporting cast, isn't the logical thing to assume it'll come up later? It's bizarre and off-putting to see you complain as if you were stating some truth, it's not even a question. Even your idea that 13 eps will show nothing is silly in the context of the manga.

Do you even like the themes of the series? It doesn't sound like you do. If you don't like the theme of intelligence + hard work and guts, then I don't think you'll like any of it.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
On the other hand, I do like that Deku is already a much more rounded character then your average shonen protagonist. He seems to lack that idiot naivete that typifys so many of them.
 

cntr

Banned
Yeah, MHA handles its supporting cast by giving full focus to a few characters each arc, and so making their minor appearances significant by their context from when they had focus.
 

Jintor

Member
That being said, I don't think I will ever like Deku's high pitched yelp on a Sunday morning.

I don't think he'll ever stop yelping, but by god, at least he'll stop crying pretty soon.

jesus christ deku i know you had 10 years of being a scrub first but DUDE
 
What MHA excels at with its supporting cast is it utilizes the characters in places that make sense and doesn't just shoehorn them in to fill some sort of arbitrary quota. That shouldn't be super impressive, but so many series fail at it that it does end up sticking out. It's somewhere between total underutilization and spending 5 years shining the spotlight on an absurdly large and underdeveloped cast like Bleach. It's balance that Horikoshi knows how to pull off.

For me, that's not enough to see the series as more than unremarkable because there's other issues I have with it, but it is noteworthy.
 
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