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My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic season 5 |OT| 100+ episodes and better than ever!
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They really are. It been probably the best season yet IMO.
SigmasonicX
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Except the Journal of the Two Sisters (also written by Rogers) shows that cutie marks predate Celestia and Luna, and they specifically mention that for the society that the sisters originally came from before they came to Equestria, it was well known that alicorns often took several more years to get their cutie marks than regular ponies--meaning that generations before them had cutie marks. You're probably being facetious, but I still felt like putting that out there
Anyway, lots of new cutie mark art already. Sethisto (of ED) suspects that people had generic CMC art ready to go to paste the new cutie marks on, but the ones below rely on the look of the marks too much for that.
We Got Our Cutie Marks!
Never Stop the Journey
Except the Journal of the Two Sisters (also written by Rogers) shows that cutie marks predate Celestia and Luna, and they specifically mention that for the society that the sisters originally came from before they came to Equestria, it was well known that alicorns often took several more years to get their cutie marks than regular ponies--meaning that generations before them had cutie marks. You're probably being facetious, but I still felt like putting that out there
The Journal of the Two Sisters is merely a part of her plot! Celestia would not dare reveal this precious secret to the rest of Equestria! It's a conspiracy!
SparksterMeta0
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I only saw a few snippets of this episode, especially the end.
It was a weird feeling seeing the CMC finally earning their cutie marks, with their journey being almost a running gag, but I'm happy they got it, so the plot doesn't have to drag on any further.
Too much of a coincidence this happened on the 5th anniversary of the show.
Speaking of which, I would never, ever consider Friendship is Magic to spark such a massive fanbase five years ago.
Now look at how far we've come.
It was a weird feeling seeing the CMC finally earning their cutie marks, with their journey being almost a running gag, but I'm happy they got it, so the plot doesn't have to drag on any further.
Too much of a coincidence this happened on the 5th anniversary of the show.
Speaking of which, I would never, ever consider Friendship is Magic to spark such a massive fanbase five years ago.
Now look at how far we've come.
Anyone remember the season 5 poster? I've seen people saying it predicted this episode:
The CMC are blacked out. It's possible the CMC were blacked out because they had their cutie marks... I think I even see the one new foal in the episode in this poster too (the one just to the left of Silver Spoon).
The CMC are blacked out. It's possible the CMC were blacked out because they had their cutie marks... I think I even see the one new foal in the episode in this poster too (the one just to the left of Silver Spoon).
SigmasonicX
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It made sense for me. They specifically decided to stop searching for their own cutie marks and instead just focus on helping others--something that also tied into the previous CMC episode--and that's when they realized their destiny. It also ties back into the first season CMC episodes, where it was constantly hammered in that they would find their cutie marks by not actually looking for them.
Remember? I have it right in the OP! Anyway, that's precisely what people were thinking when that poster was revealed, though after the episode descriptions were leaked and didn't appear to indicate there would be an episode related to the CMC's cutie marks, I and probably others suspected that it was a misdirection.
Other things to note from the poster are Cadance and Shining Armor with a cake that appears to have a baby carriage decoration on top, and the fact that Starlight Glimmer is blacked out and appears to be the one standing next to Twilight, with Twilight looking at her and smiling.
That was actually a really nice surprise for me. I'm looking forward to going back and listening through the songs again.
It didn't for me because helping people be the best they can be is the thing everyone does all the time. Its magical friendship pony land, its in the title of the show " friendship is magic " That is the point.
I know this might be a bit... cosmic for a kids show. But it would have been cool if their cutie marks weren't anything specific, kind of ... nothing. A sort of disappointment, like that magical moment when you become an adult. And you realize adults are just large children with more responsibilities and a bit more common sense. That disappointment pushing them to just ... do things not because they might get a cutie mark out of it. But because they want to do it, making their destinies their own.
But what happened, is literally nothing. They literally got the citizenship award at school. You didn't... try and get good grades, or were good at sports or anything. But you came, so here.. here is a gold star for trying.
UberTag
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She nailed her one solo verse in Pinkie the Party Planner from Pinkie Pride, too.
I'm still perplexed as to why the localization director for Gundam SEED Destiny insisted on getting someone else to voice Meer's songs because Chantal Strand can most definitely sing.
I think cutie mark depth discovery is a pretty good and a important. Sure its sounds corny but it is important. Trouble shoes really thought his cutie mark has a strong life eternal negative connotation. The cmc was able to find what his actual talent was and what degree of impact it has.
To me, its really important to have those hawk eyes people. You know people who could point out the potential seeds certain people have that they notice and encourage people to nourish that potential talent or quality. A potential talent or quality that those certain people don't see anything special, significant, or impactful.
I don't understand why people think their CM has to based on something so grand and cliché.
C'mon, do you really want to see stunt cm on scoot? Do you want to see a music related cm on sweetie bells? That's pretty boring and would be predictable.
You really don't see shows like these talk about it those kinds of people. If society would be filled with only negative brushers and potential crushers, that would suck.
To me, its really important to have those hawk eyes people. You know people who could point out the potential seeds certain people have that they notice and encourage people to nourish that potential talent or quality. A potential talent or quality that those certain people don't see anything special, significant, or impactful.
I don't understand why people think their CM has to based on something so grand and cliché.
C'mon, do you really want to see stunt cm on scoot? Do you want to see a music related cm on sweetie bells? That's pretty boring and would be predictable.
You really don't see shows like these talk about it those kinds of people. If society would be filled with only negative brushers and potential crushers, that would suck.
SigmasonicX
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Also, note that apparently the CMC tried to get their Discovery Family cutie marks.
Speaking of which,
EDIT: Also, I quite like stronk pony, though it occurs to me that she looks a lot like Sugar Belle from the season premiere.
UberTag
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Just once I want to see some meta-humor in the form of ponies subtly reacting to the Discovery Family bumper ad while still engaging in the flow of the episode so it would not come off as odd with the ad removed when the episode is distributed elsewhere (i.e. digitally, future reruns, etc.)Also, note that apparently the CMC tried to get their Discovery Family cutie marks.
Speaking of which,
This is clearly something that should be done by Pinkie in yet another 4th wall breaking moment.
That Diamond Tiara face kills me every time I see it.
And man, that bloody Delorean. Pick a time and stay there, guys.
The marks were always "there" though. While obviously it's impossible to define any person by one single symbol irl (not to mention people change throughout their lives, it's rare people know what they "want" to do when they are kids, some never learn). These weren't for trying, they were for realizing a part of their personality they needed to understand but didn't until that moment. It's a representation of a pivotal moment of their life. It might not happen irl like that, but so what?
It was a very simple Aesop's fable type lesson, spread out over several seasons not just for the gags but because a lot of younger kids really are wanting to grow up and do what they think they should . Especially since they aren't the main characters, there's only so many episodes a season they are gonna dedicate to them.
short version : Much like scoots wing situation , the world that they live in invalidates any lesson they were trying to communicate.
SigmasonicX
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To celebrate the fifth anniversary of the show, a former Hub employee released three unused MLP promos and an hour long video compiling all Hub promos in general.
Sibsy (senior storyboarder) will be leaving the show
And, maybe means something?
Sibsy (senior storyboarder) will be leaving the show
And, maybe means something?
DrForester
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Guessing we might see something in a flashback in the upcoming episode with Applejack's old friend.
To celebrate the fifth anniversary of the show, a former Hub employee released three unused MLP promos and an hour long video compiling all Hub promos in general.
Sibsy (senior storyboarder) will be leaving the show
And, maybe means something?
That'd fit. Or possibly the implication is that they're just missing/not around, as opposed to definitively dead.
Unrelated, interesting that Diamond Tiara and Pacifica Northwest (Gravity Falls) got similar treatment this year. Presumably the episodes were both in production long enough ago that neither side could've known anything.
Nice to see the lesson of "most assholes learned it from someone" getting some traction.
UberTag
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Spoiled rich kids have shitty parents... who'd have thunk it?
Oddly enough, this makes me want to see Pacifica / Diamond Tiara fan art.
While it's true that "spoiled rich kids have shitty parents" isn't exactly new territory, it's nice to see the writers finding more depth than "Oh, they're all just shitty people in that family". Showing characters like Pacifica or Diamond Tiara as being themselves victims rather than just born assholes is important, I think.
Filthy Rich isn't so bad.
SigmasonicX
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I remember that when Filthy (er, Rich) was first introduced, people figured that Tiara's mother must have been the problem parent, and three seasons later, this episode proves it.
DrForester
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Filthy Rich is just oblivious, but seems like a nice guy.
Infinite Justice
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Watched the episode and a tear came to my eye, no joke
They finally did it, they finally did it...
They finally did it, they finally did it...
SigmasonicX
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"We'll Make Our Mark" mixed with Yoshi Story's ending theme (no singing)
From Amy Keating Roger's tweets, some tidbits are that the opening scene originally had additional recapping (in rhyme) of the ways the CMC tried to get their cutie marks; Spoiled Rich's original name was Married Rich and then Stuck Up Rich; and they specifically wanted to get one of the "original" writers to do this episode.
And since we've heard so much about the CMC, how about some other characters?
From Amy Keating Roger's tweets, some tidbits are that the opening scene originally had additional recapping (in rhyme) of the ways the CMC tried to get their cutie marks; Spoiled Rich's original name was Married Rich and then Stuck Up Rich; and they specifically wanted to get one of the "original" writers to do this episode.
And since we've heard so much about the CMC, how about some other characters?
I like the designs of the maid ponies.
Fancy Bon-Bon! Or perhaps spy infiltration.
And Bon-Bon teleportation.
New ship!
If you are talking about DT I agree since that was a pretty quick turn around.
But the CMC marks aren't like that. We spent all this time seeing exactly why they got those marks. They didn't get them just because. It's actually the opposite: why know more about how they got those marks than pretty much any other pony outside the Mane 6. And as said, the lesson was super simple and had been told to them many times prior, just took until now for them to really get it. And I'm ok with that.
You all are just now realizing the filthy rich is best character. Man rides on a magical money nimbus cloud. We should all aspire to be like Filthy rich.
Also his name is Filthy Rich. I"m telling you my man fortune is his platinum rap albums he got because ain't no way no one with that name ain't drop one LP
I don't think , the thing they got it for, is of note. Considering helping folks is this worlds bread and butter, like trying to ring sadness out of a death in DBZ after the concept of teh dragon balls were introduced, but eh ain't nothing I can do about it now.
Also his name is Filthy Rich. I"m telling you my man fortune is his platinum rap albums he got because ain't no way no one with that name ain't drop one LP
I don't think , the thing they got it for, is of note. Considering helping folks is this worlds bread and butter, like trying to ring sadness out of a death in DBZ after the concept of teh dragon balls were introduced, but eh ain't nothing I can do about it now.
tkscz
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The music in this episode just beat Disney by a country mile. Somepony else >>>>>>>>> Let it go. I honestly felt it was on the same level as Smile, which, IMO, has not been done.
Though I do feel like their cutie marks now are not what they were going to be back in season one. Season one hinted at AB's being something based on building and crafts, S-a-L's on extreme sports and SB's based on singing, but as the series went on, they did find a new calling in helping others understand themselves, plus the marks inside the shields still indicate the above.
Though I do feel like their cutie marks now are not what they were going to be back in season one. Season one hinted at AB's being something based on building and crafts, S-a-L's on extreme sports and SB's based on singing, but as the series went on, they did find a new calling in helping others understand themselves, plus the marks inside the shields still indicate the above.
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I submit that we have seen the CMC cutie marks.
...dang.
woopWOOP
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Man, stopped bothering to follow the show since somewhere last season, randomly clicked this thread and I'm greeted with that bombshell. I... I think I'll need to catch up again.
So did Snips & Snails do anything lately or are they still background "butt of all jokes" ponies. They need some of that spotlight before the show gets canned, damnit
So did Snips & Snails do anything lately or are they still background "butt of all jokes" ponies. They need some of that spotlight before the show gets canned, damnit
Rhomega Beta
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I don't recall Snips and Snails doing anything since Ponyville Confidential.
wookieofdoom
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You need to catch up. This season has been the best season of the show's run.
You know, if I'm being completely honest, I think the design for the CMC's cutie marks is a bit of a mistake. I understand that the team put a fair amount of symbolism into the marks and that they needed to come up with some way to make all their marks follow a consistent theme.... but I think there was a bit of a mistake made in terms of how the marks might actually appear on the characters.
Can you really make out any of those details on the marks when you're not looking at them up close? When you're looking at the marks from afar they just end up looking like little purple dots.The designs just really don't work from a practical standpoint, imo. It might have actually worked in their favor to figure out how the marks would have looked on merchandise, first.
Can you really make out any of those details on the marks when you're not looking at them up close? When you're looking at the marks from afar they just end up looking like little purple dots.The designs just really don't work from a practical standpoint, imo. It might have actually worked in their favor to figure out how the marks would have looked on merchandise, first.
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Yeah. the Cutie Mark designs are not that good.
Paulo whipped up this edit, and I think this would have been so much better.
Paulo whipped up this edit, and I think this would have been so much better.
You know, if I'm being completely honest, I think the design for the CMC's cutie marks is a bit of a mistake. I understand that the team put a fair amount of symbolism into the marks and that they needed to come up with some way to make all their marks follow a consistent theme.... but I think there was a bit of a mistake made in terms of how the marks might actually appear on the characters.
Can you really make out any of those details on the marks when you're not looking at them up close? When you're looking at the marks from afar they just end up looking like little purple dots.The designs just really don't work from a practical standpoint, imo. It might have actually worked in their favor to figure out how the marks would have looked on merchandise, first.
Yup. I'm not usually in favour of retroactively changing stuff, but if they wanna revise those designs, I'm all for it.
I did a quick recolour/simplification:
...but I think they could actually go even further. Making the icons larger to fill more of the shields would be a good start.
EDIT: Thanks, Doc!
wookieofdoom
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Yeah. the Cutie Mark designs are not that good.
Paulo whipped up this edit, and I think this would have been so much better.
Twlight's time travel escapades will retcon the designs to this.
Personally I'm not sold on the "crest" necessarily being the element that should be shared across the three of them. A crest is not a particularly striking shape, so it is easy for it to look more like a dot from farther away.
I'd be perfectly happy if they made up some nonsense about the marks becoming more individual to each character after the initial "We have the same mark!" message was delivered.
It probably isn't ideal, but I feel like they committed pretty hard to it with the final musical sequence and whatnot. I can live with it just fine if we can get some colour tweaks. Or not, I guess. But I'll be happier if we do.
I really don't like the designs either. They're by far the most complex cutie marks we've ever seen in the show, and completely at odds with the mane 6's cutie marks, for instance. The ones above are better, but I agree with ZealousD that the crest isn't a good shared design and just makes them hard to make out from a distance. They should have unique silhouettes at least.
SigmasonicX
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It occurs to me that, given that toy lines by nature have to be revealed months ahead of time, Hasbro specifically gave up immediately capitalizing on this episode with new CMC toys in order to hide the surprise. Compare with how we knew about Princess Twilight from an official announcement about two months before "Magical Mystery Cure" and from toy marketing leaks well before that, or even how the Midnight Sparkle doll was shown off before we even got any Friendship Games trailers.
Or maybe the toy department just didn't care enough about the CMC to make a coordinated campaign for this.
Anyway, I wonder how long it will take for the comics to start drawing the CMC with their cutie marks. Princess Twilight first appeared in main series issue #13, released November, while "Magical Mystery Cute" was in February, but this is a more minor change for stories where the CMC would incidentally appear. Twilight's castle took less time to start appearing... though I don't remember what issue that happened in.
Or maybe the toy department just didn't care enough about the CMC to make a coordinated campaign for this.
Anyway, I wonder how long it will take for the comics to start drawing the CMC with their cutie marks. Princess Twilight first appeared in main series issue #13, released November, while "Magical Mystery Cute" was in February, but this is a more minor change for stories where the CMC would incidentally appear. Twilight's castle took less time to start appearing... though I don't remember what issue that happened in.
SigmasonicX
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Song remixes!
The Pony I Wanna Be
We'll Make Our Mark
Comic!
Crusaders
And realistic Diamond Tiara face
The Pony I Wanna Be
We'll Make Our Mark
Comic!
Crusaders
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And realistic Diamond Tiara face
^ Horrifying.
Well that's only partially true. As an example Twilight had a symbol signifying magic when all unicorns can use magic, and her mark still makes sense.
They aren't just helping others. They're helping others with a very specific type of problem related to their "career path" laid out by their marks (or maybe their path to their marks?). Kinda like guidance counselors.
I like some of the different coloration art in this thread though. i do think AB's badge would have looked better with some green.
Well that's only partially true. As an example Twilight had a symbol signifying magic when all unicorns can use magic, and her mark still makes sense.
They aren't just helping others. They're helping others with a very specific type of problem related to their "career path" laid out by their marks (or maybe their path to their marks?). Kinda like guidance counselors.
I like some of the different coloration art in this thread though. i do think AB's badge would have looked better with some green.
I mean, it's kind of obvious why the writers went in the direction of giving the CMC all the same mark. They wanted to give the CMC their marks while still having them be the CMC. That's the kind of planning that implies that we're going to get future stories from them. So clearly we're going to get future episodes where the CMC does their thing going around helping ponies get their marks or understand their marks or whatever. They'll probably get some official royal stamp of approval from Celestia to be the royal cutie mark counselors since every major character in this show is the most important pony ever.
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