The Cavs absolutely need another good playmaker. Kyrie in almost 7 seasons still cannot compently run the teams offense and at this point you have to assume he never will be. Dwill was supposed to address this but he's a worthless corpse. All this CP3 to Spurs talk but the Cavs need him the most. The way the team just craters when Lebron is out is inexplicable.
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NBA Finals 2017 |OT| Same As It Ever Was
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All the Cavs need is 4 Allstars instead of 3. The rest of East has it so much easier.
Nobody cares about the East. The championship is obviously gonna run thru the Warriors for the forseeable future, who has 4 all stars...
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I meant KD doesn't belong in the debate, so would he be the guy setting it up between Kobe/Jordan/Lebron. Like the one lady on First Take
tired
Cornbread78
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ryutaro's mama
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Oh the horror.
SwipeLeftHoney
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The Cavs need complimentary players. KLove is a good player, but he doesn't compliment the other two Stars on the roster at all. That also applies to the bench. They are basically comprised off of aging vets that are chasing a ring that don't fill a proper role for the team. It doesn't help that they're way over the salary cap. The Cavs in their current state are doomed if they don't do any major changes to the roster. The problem is Lebron will probably bolt if they even attempt to do any changes. It's the same issue they had in Miami.
Whenever players are asked about playing for GS they always say it's like no other team they've played for. I imagine it's like a superfriends summer camp where you get paid millions of dollars.
Cavs had more shooting off their bench then any team
In the NBA. It's funny how people forget how they were tearing the Nets from deep the entire playoffs until the Finals.
Uno Venova
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Skiptastic
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I'm glad to see David West go there and get his ring. He was such a great leader for the Pacers and helped them push the Heat.
Phoenix RISING
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Frontrunner exposes.
Dirk's run was Jordan's entire shooting career distilled in a single playoff run. Unguardable, and he could not miss.
Lionel Richie
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Well, he wasn't good enough to play on the Mavs, a team that missed the playoffs.
This is perfect and it encapsules how utterly confused I am to how fast this thread went to shit because people got salty as fuck for no reason. The Warriors play amazing basketball. They play some absolute great defense and the offense they run is beautiful. They don't get by simply on talent, like the Cavs do with all that iso ball and shit defensive rotations, they have a fantastic system that is just awesome to watch.
XiaNaphryz
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Works for me...there's been enough attempts at subtle shade lately.
PeregrinSe7en
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the salt here is pretty tame compared to the espn comments section imo
i would like nothing more than for golden state to blow out cavs by 30+ points.
would be fun to watch
i would like nothing more than for golden state to blow out cavs by 30+ points.
would be fun to watch
Cornbread78
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BMO = GOAT
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What's the point differential right now? 46 or 47? What's the record for a Finals 70? They need about 24 atleast to pass that.
They have all the complimentry players they need. The only problem is that there is nobody on the roster that can consistently get them the ball outside of Lebron. This was the main thing Kyrie and Lebron bumped heads about in the start of this. Eventually Lue and supposedly Kobe convinced them to let him be who he is which worked last year but obviously not anymore. And people balked and Lebrons suggestion they were short playmaking earlier this year.
finowns
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You shouldn't be bitter. Warriors won't be around forever, enjoy this, they're a fun team to watch.
Im not? Its soured my opinion on KD forever who I legitimately thought was an awesome player before this but I doubt that matters to anyone.
What makes him less of an awesome player?
This season he cemented his position as the best player on a stacked Warriors team, cemented that when it all goes down he'll likely end up with a couple of rings, made money, oh and played some of the best ball of his career.
outsida
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Did you just put Aldridge in the HoF??
He was obviously the best player in their series last year. He didnt need to play with them to prove this. Okc wouldve been the favorites against CLE as well.
But he's a coward who tried to frame his chump move as a great challenge, idc if anyone disagrees.
Because he was a female Ghostbuster.
How is it a chump move?
He made the move that would net him a win. What else is he supposed to do
In these threads you are either the greatest or absolute trash.
After last nights game I believe I saw the following incredibly hot takes:
LeBron is trash because of Finals records.
Durant is trash because he is a beta bitch for running to the Warriors.
Kobe is trash because he was carried by Shaq.
Curry is trash because he is a choker in the Finals.
Irving is trash because he missed like the first 3 and last shots he took (the 15 miraculous shots he made in quarters 2 and 3 don't count).
The entire Cavs roster is hot fucking garbage and could not play with most of us in a YMCA game because they lost (this might be true of Tristan Thompson).
Ty Lue is trash because did you see his face? What the fuck happened to his face?
The NBA is trash because the Warriors are playing basketball better than possibly any non-Cedric Ceballos led team has ever played it.
This thread is trash because most people don't agree with my hot takes.
In reality that was an amazing game. Probably one of the best Finals games I have seen. Both teams made a ton of amazing shots. I am not a fan of either team and I was loving it because both teams made so many clutch plays that kept swinging momentum until the very end when KD just straight murdered Cleveland in that final minute.
Jordan would draw Draymond's 6th foul and scored.
He didnt need to make that move. Last years Warriors were far from unbeatable, they were up 3-1 against them. Taking the easiest possible way out and claiming its the hardest is absoultely chump shit.
Salty ass people who can't handle that someone left a good situation for a better one
So LBJ is too trusting?
SwipeLeftHoney
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Ya but those shooters outside of Kyle Korver are a liability in every other aspect of the game.
mashoutposse
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The fact that people still complain about the quality of gameplay and discredit KD after yesterday's classic proves how pointless these discussions currently are.
PadWarrior
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In the previous 3 rounds dubs have got off to huge leads in game 4. Hope that trend continues. I want them to bury the cavs.
They're going to be looking to humiliate the Cavs. They've been looking forward to this moment for the entire year.
Yup, I would not be surprised if they win by 25+.
SwipeLeftHoney
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When Richard Jefferson is your starting Small Forward you know something is wrong. Lebron and Kyrie are more than enough playmakers compared to 90% of the teams in the league. Heck Deron Williams is on the roster and can still run an offense. What's really killing the Cavs outside of their lack of complimentary players is an actual offense. Playing iso-ball all game long can only take you so far. They have the 2nd deepest roster in the league but nobody compliments each other on the floor. No inside presence. Nobody outside of Kyle Korver and Channing Frye (whom barely sees the floor) can make people pay for cheating on double-teams. It's a flawed roster and it's getting exposed in the Finals.
"You salty" is the new "why you mad bro" aka I don't have a good retort for your argument so I'll just attack you personally. Why does it bother you all so much that someone doesn't particularly care for something that you have no issue with? I don't go around talking shit about GS fans for rooting for this team. He doesnt bother me who someone else likes or dislikes.
SwipeLeftHoney
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I complain more about the officiating than the actual gameplay.
Fluffhead14
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it worked until they met one of the greatest teams to ever step foot on a basketball court.
this is much more about the warriors than it is about the cavs.
PadWarrior
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I hope so! Also:
Chris Walder @WalderSports
Someone on NBA Reddit just asked whether James Comey in his prime could grab more rebounds in the NBA Finals than Tristan Thompson.
7:45 AM · Jun 8, 2017
SwipeLeftHoney
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If they played the Spurs as well it would've played out the same way. The Cavs are a flawed team. It'll be funny to see how Lebron handles the offseason and what other demands he'll have for Gilbert.
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