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NBA Offseason Thread! All offseason NBA talk in THIS thread!

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DMczaf

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So sexy...
 
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Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Ninja Scooter said:
wtf? Why are Tmac and Yao wearing lipstick?
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Its Rocket's Red Glare lip balm.
 
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Miguel

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:lol

The jerseys match the Season Ticket holder's faces when they give up hope around the end of December and their 10-30 record
 
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BatiGOOOOOOL

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Shaquille O'Neal :: Unleashed in the East

By Shaquille O'Neal (as told to Russ Bengtson)

You just don’t trade Shaquille O’Neal.

It’s that simple. Isn’t it? When you have the most dominant player in the League (and he’s still very much that), you don’t deal him. Nothing against Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and Brian Grant, but for Shaq? Are you kidding? These things simply don’t happen.

Only it did. The Lakers blinked, and so Shaq will start the season with “HEAT” and his age on his chest, revenge on his mind and motivation in his heart. This is a far different Shaq than the one who left Florida eight years ago, and the difference is more than 20 (or 30, or 40) extra pounds and three NBA championship rings. He may have averaged a career-low 21.5 ppg last season, but keep in mind that was on a career-low 14 shots a game.

The MDE will still be plenty dominant, though, due to the fact that the only other truly great centers around these days are in their 50s and 60s. The fact that Erick Dampier could be given credit for a great season after averaging 12 and 12 on a bad team—well, let’s just say Bill Russell was probably cackling his head off when he heard that. And this crazy summer should serve as extra fuel for the Diesel. But hey, why don’t we let him tell it? The rest of this story, like the world, is his.

Moving back to the East is actually a good change for me mental-wise, business-wise and personal-wise. Mental-wise, I just got kind of burned out in L.A., you know. With me in my last five or six years I just want to have something smooth, not this guy and this guy. Ever since I got there with young fella, it’s been one thing after another. So now I get to start all over and raise me another young point guard. You know what it’s like? It’s sort of like ancient karate movies. Think about it—the master trains his young disciple. Then when the young disciples get some balls, they think they can do better. I raised Penny, things happened, and I didn’t want to put up with it, so I wanted to start all over.

I got with this guy, same thing happened, so now I’m startin’ all over. But I think Dwyane Wade is gonna be a little bit different, because he wasn’t as noticed as these other guys. Dwyane Wade was a player that everybody slept on, but now they know he can play, and now I think it’s my job to get over there and teach him little secrets.

The Heat being able to get me and keep Dwyane? That’s how good I am—you know I have great general manager skills. I told them if I go somewhere, I’m going to a good team. I’m not a dummy. And then, business-wise, in the words of my boy Scarface, Miami is a city that’s waiting to get…You know what I mean? So I’m ’bout to bring about 10 to 15, 25 fitness centers out there. I’m about to get in the club business, get a club right on South Beach. I’m about to blow up. This is the kind of stuff that I wanted to do in L.A., but business-wise, real estate was way expensive out there, and everything was just overdone out there. I got a little production company, and American Airlines Arena doesn’t get used that much, but I’ve got people I can call—I can call up the Fat Joes and the Commodores and UFC and tell ’em to come down, I’ll be the promoter. Business-wise, I’m gonna take care of a lot of stuff.

Personal-wise, the wifey and them, they always wanted a house on the ocean in Florida. We always used to take a trip to Boca Raton. Boca Raton is like 20 or 30 minutes from Miami. So I was always contemplating whether to buy a vacation home in Boca, or even Vegas. I got to take care of all my needs in one whole summer.

And then, I think by coming to the East, I can add two to three more years to my career, because the West is loaded right now. Very loaded. I think I’ve got one or two centers that’ll give me—well, nobody’s gonna give me a problem—but one or two guys I really gotta get up for. Jermaine O’Neal and…uh…uh, shit, that’s about it. Bein’ that I’m back in the East, more mileage for the Diesel. And I get to come over here and dominate. There are, like, 15 seven-footers in the East and, like, one of ’em averaged over 10 points? I look forward to starting all over, I look forward to coming home and being home, and just going down there and taking over.

When I first started playing, I always thought that a guy like Shaquille O’Neal would be untradeable. However, if you look at the history of the game, sometimes it happens to the best of them. When Dominique Wilkins got traded, I was sick. When Patrick Ewing got traded, I was really sick. You know what I’m sayin’? When Jerry Krause didn’t want to take care of Mike, and fired Phil, I was very sick. So this tells me there’s no loyalty in sport, and I understand that. And being that you understand that, you know how to deal with it. I’m an Army brat—I’m used to movin’, I like movin’. And I just like to look at it like this: Agent O’Neal did a great job for the FBI in Los Angeles. His time is up there, and now he just has to relocate to Miami. I’m gonna miss all the friends and the family and all that, but this ain’t gonna break me, brother—it’s just gonna make me stronger. Nothin’ can break me.

I just want to win. I’ve always been a winner. When I first came in I did a lot of stuff, and the knock on me was that I wasn’t winning. But then I got three, and I’m just tryin’ to work on number four. So when I’m done playin’, hopefully I have five, six or seven. Right now my name is all over the NBA bible, so it’s just my opportunity to get a couple more pages. I mean, I can look in a book now and show my son stuff that makes me feel very proud, and makes them feel proud, too. ‘Look, I got 21,000, I did this, I did that, I got three rings.’ So, I don’t have really anything to prove, however, I’m gonna come in and do what I gotta do. Because when you doubt the Diesel? He puts it in fifth gear and he cuts his brake line. And I’m crashin’ through everything. And whoever’s in my way, they will get crushed. It doesn’t matter. So I like being doubted. Everything that’s happened to me this summer, ain’t nothin’ but motivation, baby. And everything happens for a reason.

Everything happens for a reason. I admit, I had it good, and I got kind of cute. We had our three rings and got kind of cute and all that stuff. But I don’t have any rings now. And you know what? I was ordered by the powers that be to get the MVP. And the last time I was ordered by the powers to get the MVP? I got it. So I’m just looking forward to starting over. A lot of people always ask, “Are you mad?” It’s not that I’m mad, it’s just that I figure a guy like Shaquille O’Neal would have gotten more respect in the way they dealt with that. I understand the business, I understand this, I understand that. All you need to do is come to me and say, “Hey, we’re looking to go in a new direction,” and I’ll say OK, this is where I want to go. Don’t try to have a conversation with me like I don’t know what’s going on.

And then they want to say, “He mad because he ain’t get the money.” Money ain’t got nothin’ to do with it. But when it comes to money, I know how much you are makin’, and I know how much to ask for, you know what I’m sayin’? And when it comes to money, if I’m gonna go in the office and do a deal for myself, I’m never gonna lowball myself. You know what I’m sayin’? If I feel that I’m worth a hundred, I’m askin’ for two hundred. So they tried to lowball in certain instances, and I was like, No, I’m not takin’ that. Then they [in gruff voice], “Well we’re gonna do this and we’re gonna do that.” But there’s no loyalty in this game.

But Goliath, baby. I am the modern-day B.I.G., the modern day Goliath. I am Shogun loved by no one.

But like I said, it’s all motivation. The one thing that I got is a big-ass head, with a big file cabinet in it. I file all that shit, baby. I sit here and I watch ESPN, and I know what you said, I know what you did, I know what you thinkin’, and I remember that. And I will get the last laugh. You know why? ’Cause I’m good, I’m righteous. I do everything right. And for them to do what they gotta do with a player like me, it just wasn’t done right.

My thing is, if you’re gonna be on the front line with me, and I’m gonna take the blame, you’re gonna have to do what I tell you to do, homie. All that, Hey, I need you to do this—I’m not like that. I’m not, You gotta blah blah blah, because I know what I gotta do to get you to fight. It’s just that when I was doing that in L.A. I didn’t have the backing from the organization because they were scared or something. I don’t know what they were scared of. Some guys are so smart that they’re dumb. Like, Mitch Kupchak will never be remembered for anything but what? Trading me. That was the dumbest move in sports history. Congratulations, Mitch.

For the rest of Shaquille O'Neal's article, pick up SLAM 82.

http://www.slamonline.com/magazine/features/Shaq82/
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bionic77

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BatiGOOOOOOL said:
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The diesel has a long history of blaming his teammates when things don't go his way, is Wade going to be his next scapegoat? I have never heard this guy take responsibility for a loss or something going wrong. I don't think I heard that from Kobe either actually, but if you want to be the MAN you gotta take responsibility for losing when you take all the credt for winning.

When do the Lakers play Miami again? What are the odds of Kobe or Shaq getting in a fight?
 
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Miguel

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Kobe What? Kobe Who?

Jordan:
Gotta vendetta even though I been better
Left him in the cold with a thin sweater
This nigga's on Prozac needs to pass to Shaq, nigga hit two on me I hit fo' back, hold that
Let the dough stack, way before Kobe had the back2back
Damn, this foo's whack.
Mother****ers wanna test that, stress that
And right where you're stressed, where you rest at
I suggest that, Kobe invest, in a vest, when I come through
with my Jumper, you niggaz step back
I'm the best at, you know I ain't no apprentice to this
Me and my niggaz we invented the ****
I came into the business with this, The Originator, non greater
Barkley, finish this ****

Barkley:
Better learn, Chuck'll relax that, ever heard of me?
Round Mound of Rebound, say word to me
The population holla certainly, Jordan burn a nigga
like a third degree, see him shine so bright
Nigga he's his light, runnin rulin with rigor and vigor
Nobody bigger than me and my nigga Jordan
You fly-by-nights stop chirpin Kobe
Heavyweights type work to me
For the time, in this mother****er ain't nobody hurtin me
What? Cut your D up like surgery
Who the **** got a FG, ****in FT's on the road
when you getting schooled by Twenty-Three
Need the info, Chuck on the T-N-T
forever touchin my workers beginnin you're endin
Kobe your style's no style J's style's hostile
C'mon, ***got nigga down to take your J home
The...O-RI-GI-NA-TOR (can't **** with it can ya?!)


(Kobe what?) Make you think you can **** with me
(Kobe who?) Recognize bitch, 2 to the 3
(Kobe what?) Make you think you can **** with me
(Kobe who?) Recognize bitch, 2 to the 3
(Kobe what?) Make you think you can **** with me
(Kobe who?) Recognize bitch, 2 to the 3
(Kobe what?) Make you think you can **** with me
(Kobe who?) Recognize bitch, 2 to the mother****in 3





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D is for Dikembe!





Now what starts with the letter D?
Dikembe starts with D
Let's think of other things that starts with D
Uh ahh who cares about the other things

D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me
D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me
D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me

Ohh Dikembe Mutombo starts with D

Ohh D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me
D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me
D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me

Ohh, Dikembe Mutombo starts with D

Hey, you know what
A three point line with one baseline looks like a D
Half a basketball from the side also looks like a D,
But it is not as good as Dikembe
Oh, and the moon sometimes looks like a D,
But you can't block that.

So, D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me
D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me
D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me

D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me
D is for Dikembe that's good enough for me

Ohh, Dikembe Mutombo starts with D
Yeah, Dikembe Mutombo starts with D
Oh boy, Dikembe Mutombo starts with D

Arr arr, NOT IN MAH HOUSE!
 
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Cloudy

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Allen asking Sonics for deal worth $100 million
FRANK HUGHES; The News Tribune

Citing the recently signed contract of Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant, Ray Allen has told the Seattle SuperSonics he wants a contract extension worth $100 million over five seasons, according to sources.

In early August, Bryant, after visiting several teams, signed a contract with the Lakers worth $136 million over six seasons.


Allen's reasoning, according to sources, is that while he may not be as good as Bryant, he still is an All-Star and is not worth considerably less, a fact bolstered by the virtually one-on-one shootout Allen and Bryant had Jan. 2, a game that Allen ultimately won for the Sonics in the final seconds when he split two defenders for a scoop shot, his 35th point. Bryant scored 32 points in that game, overshadowing Gary Payton's return to Seattle.


The Sonics are believed to be offering close to $70 million over five seasons, with a starting salary of around $11 million.


If Allen's contract demands were extended to six seasons, it would be a contract worth $126 million. If the Sonics' offer was extended to six seasons, it would be worth $86.6 million.


Sonics general manager Rick Sund is on vacation and unavailable for comment, a team spokesperson said.


Sources say that Allen is adamant about his demands and that he is willing to play out the final season of his contract without an extension and go into next summer as an unrestricted free agent, able to sign with any team.
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Shinobi

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bionic77 said:
When do the Lakers play Miami again? What are the odds of Kobe or Shaq getting in a fight?
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Considering Kobe got bitchslapped by Chris fucking Childs, I'd say the odds for a Kobe/Shaq tussle are rather slim.

As for what Allen's asking for, it's perfectly reasonable...look at the contracts that were given out to complete shit players this summer. Allen would be a bargain at that price in comparison to those worthless pylons.
 
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Bowser

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Shinobi said:
As for what Allen's asking for, it's perfectly reasonable...look at the contracts that were given out to complete shit players this summer. Allen would be a bargain at that price in comparison to those worthless pylons.
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"One rebound...Shit, I'm done for the season! Yo Warriors, bring out that $40 mil contract!"
 
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Bat

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There's no way Allen gets anything close to the max. People overpaid for size this summer and not for that massive (half the cap per season for a second string SG?) amount. It would be like the Allan Houston contract, except that the Sonics did not make the finals last year. Anyways, the Sonics have all the leverage here because the CG agreement will probably cap contracts to 4 years and no team can sign him for half that amount.
 
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Shinobi

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Oh man, Ray's a hell of a lot better then Houston...at least he can get to the hoop a few times a game. Alan's never been anything more then a glorified spot up shooter.
 
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Incognito

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what's the problem here, sonics managment? 100 million is paltry for the second best guard in the league. give him a nice signing bonus, too.

anyway, yet another case of the white man holding down a brotha':

Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- Gary Payton was arrested last month for investigation of driving under the influence, the California Highway Patrol said Thursday.

Payton was stopped Aug. 28 after an officer saw him backing down an on-ramp on the San Diego Freeway to avoid heavy traffic caused by an accident, the CHP said.

Payton failed an alcohol sobriety test and was taken to the West Los Angeles Police Department, CHP officials said. He also was cited for unsafe backing and was released after a chemical test at the station. He is to appear in court Oct. 15.

The 36-year-old guard was traded from the Lakers to the Boston Celtics last month. He has threatened to retire rather than play for the Celtics.

Last year, Payton was charged with assault stemming from a fight outside a Toronto club in April 2003. A trial is pending. Payton was with the Milwaukee Bucks at the time.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1877862

garbage. so what if he was backing down an on-ramp? i would too if traffic were backed up because some fuckhead lost control of his car resulting in an accident. the fuck who drove his car into the barrels of water should be ticketed, not payton.
 
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DJ_Tet

Banned
HalfPastNoon said:
what's the problem here, sonics managment? 100 million is paltry for the second best guard in the league. .
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Do it Seattle. Second best guard in the league? :lol

And that's all I'm gonna say about Jesus Shuttlesworth.
 
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Ninja Scooter

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if you'll notice, all those pics are of MJ as an old man with the Wiz, while they are old pics of Kobe from either the 2002 season or earlier (notice the fro, which he cut right before the 2002 playoffs). Obviously its old man MJ who is copying Kobe, and how can you blame him? When Jordan came back, it was a wise decision to steal from the best.
 
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Loki

Count of Concision
Ninja Scooter said:
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if you'll notice, all those pics are of MJ as an old man with the Wiz, while they are old pics of Kobe from either the 2002 season or earlier (notice the fro, which he cut right before the 2002 playoffs). Obviously its old man MJ who is copying Kobe, and how can you blame him? When Jordan came back, it was a wise decision to steal from the best.
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I know you're most likely joking with this post, but if you're not, let me just tell you that Jordan had all those moves and more in the early-mid 90's, when Kobe still hadn't hit puberty yet. :D


How do I know? You guessed it: I have the tapes (hi bionic!). ;) :p
 
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Cloudy

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A private-school teacher and part-time model is suing Raptors forward Morris Peterson for $1.5 million for allegedly infecting her with genital herpes.

Daphne Charlemagne, 26, is seeking $1 million in general damages and $500,000 in special damages.

Her case was originally filed in June 2002 — a year and a half after she says she met Peterson and began having an "intimate relationship" with him — but hasn't advanced to a trial because Peterson has not filed a statement of defence, said Joseph Lo Greco, Charlemagne's lawyer.

A judge is to set a trial date on Wednesday.

Lo Greco said the case probably wouldn't begin before December.

The allegations against Peterson have not been proven. A Raptors spokesman said Peterson wasn't available to comment.

Charlemagne alleges that Peterson either knew or should have known that he had and was a carrier of genital herpes.
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Oh boy. Reminds me of the Clifford Robinson situation last year :lol

Pistons' Player Cleared In Herpes Case

9:12 p.m. EDT August 11, 2003 - An Oakland County judge dismissed the $20 million lawsuit against Detroit Pistons forward Clifford Robinson on Monday, Local 4 reported.


Robinson was on trial for one of two cases in which women claimed he infected them with herpes.

Jamie Reeves -- a former girlfriend of Robinson -- told the courtroom last week she became infected with the herpes virus after a three-month relationship with Robinson.

Robinson said the judge threw out Reeves' lawsuit because attorneys for the defendant quit.

The woman's lawyers apparently did not think the case should go forward and wanted it to be dismissed, said Robinson's lawyer, Brandon Marshall.

Robinson claims Reeves infected him with the virus. He said that a lesson could be learned from the outcome of the case, Local 4 reported.

"I definitely think this sends a message to the people out there who are preying on people with money, whether it be athletes or someone else," Robinson said.

The judge ruled that Reeves must pay Robinson $180,000 in court and attorney fees or face legal action.

The second case against Robinson is still pending, but it's likely that case will also be dismissed, Local 4 reported.
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AirBrian

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Loki said:
I know you're most likely joking with this post, but if you're not, let me just tell you that Jordan had all those moves and more in the early-mid 90's, when Kobe still hadn't hit puberty yet. :D


How do I know? You guessed it: I have the tapes (hi bionic!). ;) :p
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:lol :lol :lol

We need to start a LTTDF* and distribute accordingly!

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Loki's Tapes to DVD Fund
 
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bionic77

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Loki said:
I know you're most likely joking with this post, but if you're not, let me just tell you that Jordan had all those moves and more in the early-mid 90's, when Kobe still hadn't hit puberty yet. :D


How do I know? You guessed it: I have the tapes (hi bionic!). ;) :p
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Dude, it is 2004, time to ditch those VHS tapes and get with the program.

I suggest replacing those old and busted Bull's tapes with the superior technology of dvd's. This is a good one to start with:


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:D
 
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bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
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JAYSON Williams is looking to make an NBA comeback. The ex-Nets star was forced to retire in 1997 with a bad back, and he's 36 years old. But he was at Basketball City the other night with L.A. Clippers star Elton Brand and two other players, working hard and doing windsprints between scrimmages. Screenwriter Penny Marshall stopped by after watching a match at the U.S. Open to see them play. "He's trying to get back in shape for a comeback," said our source. Williams and Brand were back the next day to continue the workouts.
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