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This has been happening repeatedly yes, its one of the common topics constantly being discussed whether PS5 RDNA2 GPU supports RDNA2 features.
Now i won't pretend to know what's going on in their heads i.e Do they believe it or just concern trolling?

It's all speculation in the end. But I do agree that some people try to act like they are the only ones who know and force their speculation on others. Like the few that argued that Cerny was lying about the system having hardware based raytracing as an example. Seen it from all sides BTW.
 

thelastword

Banned
I think we have lost some actual good posters here instead of the OT meme posters people drop malt liquor for here on the daily.....It's a games forum afterall and these guys contributed heavily to gaming.....They were not here simply to troll insult or try to build their def comedy jam status....I'm referring to.....Bo_Hazem and CJY, they gave good information and enhanced the next gen tech threads with solid reasoning and good articulation......If anything, these posters should be given a chance instead of persons who just want to start some poop thread of whatever...….

Guys like DynamiteCop was permed, ressurected and still given fair chances even now....I have never read an Imnotkleenex post that was not filled with hatred and insults. yet they have been given many chances...….I think even guys like Coulomb should be given another chance, I know he went the alt route, but he was a good poster who was probably a bit frustrated. I've seen many well written and articulated posts from Coulomb in gaming...….Yet, I've seen Dynamite go on a tangent for months across threads and recently he was just relentless, and I'm not even calling for perms for the XBOX guys either, but they tend to go to the extreme much quicker in a debate when the other poster engaging is still trying to bring facts and substantiated data to the table, just like the list of XBOX guys who still say PS5 is 9.2TF, even when the facts presents itself, it does not have VRS and at sometime they even said it didn't have mesh shading, and no matter how many times you present evidence to prove otherwise from veritable sources they keep saying the same thing in every thread and it becomes the same recurring decimal, they eschew facts and it's like they are baiting Sony fans to present the same data, the same sources in every thread, they make it cyclical because they really do not care about the truth....

I mean, there is this New Yorks Finest poster, who only posts, jibberish with smilies, calling any Sony fan he disagrees with 40 years old and then proceeds with a tonne of smileys of all types, pretty much all his posts are the same smiley overload template against Sony fanboys.....Tell me one time anyone have read a well reasoned and thought out post from this poster, but he is still around and guys like Coulomb, CJY and Bo Hazem are banned...... ? I don't know man...
 

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
I think we have lost some actual good posters here instead of the OT meme posters people drop malt liquor for here on the daily.....It's a games forum afterall and these guys contributed heavily to gaming.....They were not here simply to troll insult or try to build their def comedy jam status....I'm referring to.....Bo_Hazem and CJY, they gave good information and enhanced the next gen tech threads with solid reasoning and good articulation......If anything, these posters should be given a chance instead of persons who just want to start some poop thread of whatever...….

Guys like DynamiteCop was permed, ressurected and still given fair chances even now....I have never read an Imnotkleenex post that was not filled with hatred and insults. yet they have been given many chances...….I think even guys like Coulomb should be given another chance, I know he went the alt route, but he was a good poster who was probably a bit frustrated. I've seen many well written and articulated posts from Coulomb in gaming...….Yet, I've seen Dynamite go on a tangent for months across threads and recently he was just relentless, and I'm not even calling for perms for the XBOX guys either, but they tend to go to the extreme much quicker in a debate when the other poster engaging is still trying to bring facts and substantiated data to the table, just like the list of XBOX guys who still say PS5 is 9.2TF, even when the facts presents itself, it does not have VRS and at sometime they even said it didn't have mesh shading, and no matter how many times you present evidence to prove otherwise from veritable sources they keep saying the same thing in every thread and it becomes the same recurring decimal, they eschew facts and it's like they are baiting Sony fans to present the same data, the same sources in every thread, they make it cyclical because they really do not care about the truth....

I mean, there is this New Yorks Finest poster, who only posts, jibberish with smilies, calling any Sony fan he disagrees with 40 years old and then proceeds with a tonne of smileys of all types, pretty much all his posts are the same smiley overload template against Sony fanboys.....Tell me one time anyone have read a well reasoned and thought out post from this poster, but he is still around and guys like Coulomb, CJY and Bo Hazem are banned...... ? I don't know man...
The fact that you're referring to people like CJY and Coulomb as good posters completely dismantles any point you may or may not have made. They did absolutely nothing but shit up threads with pathetic and unnecessary console wars rhetoric, and the only reason you're even defending them is because their brand of bullshit happened to align with yours.
 
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I think we have lost some actual good posters here instead of the OT meme posters people drop malt liquor for here on the daily.....It's a games forum afterall and these guys contributed heavily to gaming.....They were not here simply to troll insult or try to build their def comedy jam status....I'm referring to.....Bo_Hazem and CJY, they gave good information and enhanced the next gen tech threads with solid reasoning and good articulation......If anything, these posters should be given a chance instead of persons who just want to start some poop thread of whatever...….

Guys like DynamiteCop was permed, ressurected and still given fair chances even now....I have never read an Imnotkleenex post that was not filled with hatred and insults. yet they have been given many chances...….I think even guys like Coulomb should be given another chance, I know he went the alt route, but he was a good poster who was probably a bit frustrated. I've seen many well written and articulated posts from Coulomb in gaming...….Yet, I've seen Dynamite go on a tangent for months across threads and recently he was just relentless, and I'm not even calling for perms for the XBOX guys either, but they tend to go to the extreme much quicker in a debate when the other poster engaging is still trying to bring facts and substantiated data to the table, just like the list of XBOX guys who still say PS5 is 9.2TF, even when the facts presents itself, it does not have VRS and at sometime they even said it didn't have mesh shading, and no matter how many times you present evidence to prove otherwise from veritable sources they keep saying the same thing in every thread and it becomes the same recurring decimal, they eschew facts and it's like they are baiting Sony fans to present the same data, the same sources in every thread, they make it cyclical because they really do not care about the truth....

I mean, there is this New Yorks Finest poster, who only posts, jibberish with smilies, calling any Sony fan he disagrees with 40 years old and then proceeds with a tonne of smileys of all types, pretty much all his posts are the same smiley overload template against Sony fanboys.....Tell me one time anyone have read a well reasoned and thought out post from this poster, but he is still around and guys like Coulomb, CJY and Bo Hazem are banned...... ? I don't know man...

Im shocked that the posters you consider “good” are all devoted Sony fans. Fascinating.

I said it before, I don’t like perma’s. Perma’s bum me out. That said, I can’t help but find your post a little ironic.
 
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Jooxed

Gold Member
I think we have lost some actual good posters here instead of the OT meme posters people drop malt liquor for here on the daily.....It's a games forum afterall and these guys contributed heavily to gaming.....They were not here simply to troll insult or try to build their def comedy jam status....I'm referring to.....Bo_Hazem and CJY, they gave good information and enhanced the next gen tech threads with solid reasoning and good articulation......If anything, these posters should be given a chance instead of persons who just want to start some poop thread of whatever...….

Guys like DynamiteCop was permed, ressurected and still given fair chances even now....I have never read an Imnotkleenex post that was not filled with hatred and insults. yet they have been given many chances...….I think even guys like Coulomb should be given another chance, I know he went the alt route, but he was a good poster who was probably a bit frustrated. I've seen many well written and articulated posts from Coulomb in gaming...….Yet, I've seen Dynamite go on a tangent for months across threads and recently he was just relentless, and I'm not even calling for perms for the XBOX guys either, but they tend to go to the extreme much quicker in a debate when the other poster engaging is still trying to bring facts and substantiated data to the table, just like the list of XBOX guys who still say PS5 is 9.2TF, even when the facts presents itself, it does not have VRS and at sometime they even said it didn't have mesh shading, and no matter how many times you present evidence to prove otherwise from veritable sources they keep saying the same thing in every thread and it becomes the same recurring decimal, they eschew facts and it's like they are baiting Sony fans to present the same data, the same sources in every thread, they make it cyclical because they really do not care about the truth....

I mean, there is this New Yorks Finest poster, who only posts, jibberish with smilies, calling any Sony fan he disagrees with 40 years old and then proceeds with a tonne of smileys of all types, pretty much all his posts are the same smiley overload template against Sony fanboys.....Tell me one time anyone have read a well reasoned and thought out post from this poster, but he is still around and guys like Coulomb, CJY and Bo Hazem are banned...... ? I don't know man...


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Unconfirmed Member
I think we have lost some actual good posters here instead of the OT meme posters people drop malt liquor for here on the daily.....It's a games forum afterall and these guys contributed heavily to gaming.....They were not here simply to troll insult or try to build their def comedy jam status....I'm referring to.....Bo_Hazem and CJY, they gave good information and enhanced the next gen tech threads with solid reasoning and good articulation......If anything, these posters should be given a chance instead of persons who just want to start some poop thread of whatever...….

Guys like DynamiteCop was permed, ressurected and still given fair chances even now....I have never read an Imnotkleenex post that was not filled with hatred and insults. yet they have been given many chances...….I think even guys like Coulomb should be given another chance, I know he went the alt route, but he was a good poster who was probably a bit frustrated. I've seen many well written and articulated posts from Coulomb in gaming...….Yet, I've seen Dynamite go on a tangent for months across threads and recently he was just relentless, and I'm not even calling for perms for the XBOX guys either, but they tend to go to the extreme much quicker in a debate when the other poster engaging is still trying to bring facts and substantiated data to the table, just like the list of XBOX guys who still say PS5 is 9.2TF, even when the facts presents itself, it does not have VRS and at sometime they even said it didn't have mesh shading, and no matter how many times you present evidence to prove otherwise from veritable sources they keep saying the same thing in every thread and it becomes the same recurring decimal, they eschew facts and it's like they are baiting Sony fans to present the same data, the same sources in every thread, they make it cyclical because they really do not care about the truth....

I mean, there is this New Yorks Finest poster, who only posts, jibberish with smilies, calling any Sony fan he disagrees with 40 years old and then proceeds with a tonne of smileys of all types, pretty much all his posts are the same smiley overload template against Sony fanboys.....Tell me one time anyone have read a well reasoned and thought out post from this poster, but he is still around and guys like Coulomb, CJY and Bo Hazem are banned...... ? I don't know man...
Why....do....we....still...have...you....here?
 

Papa

Banned
Get over brap already he's not coming back.

It’s not just brap. You’re now going at thelastword and previously had a cry about DynamiteCop and Wolfgang. This isn’t the place to come and dunk on people who can’t respond.

Wasn't DynamiteCop! permabanned before? Why did you even unban him to begin with?
I thought he said something to get permabanned a couple of months ago. Either way he's just another console warrior idiot and I'm sure he'll end up that way sooner or later.
Took long enough for Wolfgang to get banned. A few more just like him or even worse are still out there unfortunately.
 
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Deleted member 738976

Unconfirmed Member
Not my problem they can't behave themselves so don't take it out on me. Also it's called having common sense about certain users.

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Whitesnake

Banned
I think we have lost some actual good posters here instead of the OT meme posters people drop malt liquor for here on the daily.....It's a games forum afterall and these guys contributed heavily to gaming.....They were not here simply to troll insult or try to build their def comedy jam status....I'm referring to.....Bo_Hazem and CJY, they gave good information and enhanced the next gen tech threads with solid reasoning and good articulation......If anything, these posters should be given a chance instead of persons who just want to start some poop thread of whatever...….

Guys like DynamiteCop was permed, ressurected and still given fair chances even now....I have never read an Imnotkleenex post that was not filled with hatred and insults. yet they have been given many chances...….I think even guys like Coulomb should be given another chance, I know he went the alt route, but he was a good poster who was probably a bit frustrated. I've seen many well written and articulated posts from Coulomb in gaming...….Yet, I've seen Dynamite go on a tangent for months across threads and recently he was just relentless, and I'm not even calling for perms for the XBOX guys either, but they tend to go to the extreme much quicker in a debate when the other poster engaging is still trying to bring facts and substantiated data to the table, just like the list of XBOX guys who still say PS5 is 9.2TF, even when the facts presents itself, it does not have VRS and at sometime they even said it didn't have mesh shading, and no matter how many times you present evidence to prove otherwise from veritable sources they keep saying the same thing in every thread and it becomes the same recurring decimal, they eschew facts and it's like they are baiting Sony fans to present the same data, the same sources in every thread, they make it cyclical because they really do not care about the truth....

I mean, there is this New Yorks Finest poster, who only posts, jibberish with smilies, calling any Sony fan he disagrees with 40 years old and then proceeds with a tonne of smileys of all types, pretty much all his posts are the same smiley overload template against Sony fanboys.....Tell me one time anyone have read a well reasoned and thought out post from this poster, but he is still around and guys like Coulomb, CJY and Bo Hazem are banned...... ? I don't know man...

Anyone who feels a personal attachment to next-gen discourse is beyond saving. Especially if they create alts (and thus evade the ban) because they literally cannot go a day without arguing with strangers about the specs of hypothetical consoles.

Those threads are a psych ward as far as I’m concerned. People would be wise not to end up there.
 
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TaySan

Banned
Anyone who feels a personal attachment to next-gen discourse is beyond saving. Especially if they create alts (and thus evade the ban) because they literally cannot go a day without arguing with strangers about the specs of hypothetical consoles.

Those threads are a psych ward as far as I’m concerned. People would be wise not to end up there.

I avoid reading any of those threads. I just don't see much point going on and on with speculation.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I think we have lost some actual good posters here instead of the OT meme posters people drop malt liquor for here on the daily.....It's a games forum afterall and these guys contributed heavily to gaming.....They were not here simply to troll insult or try to build their def comedy jam status....I'm referring to.....Bo_Hazem and CJY, they gave good information and enhanced the next gen tech threads with solid reasoning and good articulation......If anything, these posters should be given a chance instead of persons who just want to start some poop thread of whatever...….

Guys like DynamiteCop was permed, ressurected and still given fair chances even now....I have never read an Imnotkleenex post that was not filled with hatred and insults. yet they have been given many chances...….I think even guys like Coulomb should be given another chance, I know he went the alt route, but he was a good poster who was probably a bit frustrated. I've seen many well written and articulated posts from Coulomb in gaming...….Yet, I've seen Dynamite go on a tangent for months across threads and recently he was just relentless, and I'm not even calling for perms for the XBOX guys either, but they tend to go to the extreme much quicker in a debate when the other poster engaging is still trying to bring facts and substantiated data to the table, just like the list of XBOX guys who still say PS5 is 9.2TF, even when the facts presents itself, it does not have VRS and at sometime they even said it didn't have mesh shading, and no matter how many times you present evidence to prove otherwise from veritable sources they keep saying the same thing in every thread and it becomes the same recurring decimal, they eschew facts and it's like they are baiting Sony fans to present the same data, the same sources in every thread, they make it cyclical because they really do not care about the truth....

I mean, there is this New Yorks Finest poster, who only posts, jibberish with smilies, calling any Sony fan he disagrees with 40 years old and then proceeds with a tonne of smileys of all types, pretty much all his posts are the same smiley overload template against Sony fanboys.....Tell me one time anyone have read a well reasoned and thought out post from this poster, but he is still around and guys like Coulomb, CJY and Bo Hazem are banned...... ? I don't know man...
There’s big differences between your Sony buddies and other people who like to have fun trolling here and there.

1. Other people don’t make alt accounts 2 days after getting banned, especially when it’s not even a permaban! Some people can’t wait 1 week for the ban to expire.

2. Other people also contribute more to other threads that have nothing to do with console wars and fighting the good fight protecting their fav brand. And most other people have no problem badmouthing their fav systems to show some unbias. I like Xbox but don’t give a shit about Fable, Halo and I think every Ninja Theory game is overrated. Hellblade 1 is barely a game to me. And every Rare game except KI looks like it’s meant for 7 year olds. See? Not hard to show unbiased views.

3. Your buddies were masters at dragging out stuff forever. Bo Hazen must had gone on a one man show about PS5 sound is better than Dolby for probably 10 pages. Stuff like this drains the life out of threads.

4. Don’t deny it because this point can involve you too. You guys know what you are doing,.... but sometimes genuine threads get nailed by you and Sony fan sales list wars and can cleverly morph it into bashing Gamepass pages later.
 
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I liked ED. His threads were lively. I don’t know what went down in the PM’s but a shame it came to a perma.
I don't have any idea why it was so important to him to make threads that he felt he needs to start insulting Evillore over it.
Personally, I felt he almost spammed OT with his gross stuff.

I enjoyed some of his threads and demeanour as well, but he really took all this stuff too seriously.

R.I.P. ED

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and on the console wars stuff in the gaming section, it's really getting a bit stupid and aggressive lately. I avoid those threads as well.
 
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haxan7

Banned
I don't have any idea why it was so important to him to make threads that he felt he needs to start insulting Evillore over it.
Personally, I felt he almost spammed OT with his gross stuff.

I enjoyed his threads and demeanour as well, but he really took all this stuff too seriously.

R.I.P. ED
Good sense of humor that translates well over the internet but balls too big for the brains to keep up
 
There’s big differences between your Sony buddies and other people who like to have fun trolling here and there.

1. Other people don’t make alt accounts 2 days after getting banned, especially when it’s not even a permaban! Some people can’t wait 1 week for the ban to expire.

2. Other people also contribute more to other threads that have nothing to do with console wars and fighting the good fight protecting their fav brand. And most other people have no problem badmouthing their fav systems to show some unbias. I like Xbox but don’t give a shit about Fable, Halo and I think every Ninja Theory game is overrated. Hellblade 1 is barely a game to me. And every Rare game except KI looks like it’s meant for 7 year olds. See? Not hard to show unbiased views.

3. Your buddies were masters at dragging out stuff forever. Bo Hazen must had gone on a one man show about PS5 sound is better than Dolby for probably 10 pages. Stuff like this drains the life out of threads.

4. Don’t deny it because this point can involve you too. You guys know what you are doing,.... but sometimes genuine threads get nailed by you and Sony fan sales list wars and can cleverly morph it into bashing Gamepass pages later.
Your sub-community is by far the worst especially after their little discord group got exposed to the entire GAF community so why don't you talk about them too?
 

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
Your sub-community is by far the worst especially after their little discord group got exposed to the entire GAF community so why don't you talk about them too?
I don't know, I'd say overall the hardcore Sony fanboys are easily the worst when it comes to obnoxiousness, although the hardcore MS ones are definitely getting to that point. Surprisingly I find the Nintendo ones to be the most quiet these days, which is usually not the case in my experience.

Either way, they're all fucking idiots as far as I'm concerned. It's one thing to have a console preference, it's another to spend your time on a message board fighting a war you have no stake in simply because you have some unusual attachment to a brand or piece of hardware.

And for the record, I'm not referring to you, I'm just speaking in general terms.
 
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1. Other people don’t make alt accounts 2 days after getting banned, especially when it’s not even a permaban! Some people can’t wait 1 week for the ban to expire.
I just did a double take on this part of your rant and dude, are you serious? Have you been living under a rock voluntarily and ignored the fact that atleast 15 (FIFTEEN) XBOX Alt-Accounts were created over thr past few weeks?

It's one thing when Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem doubles down on a specific topic, but it's another entirely different thing when your sub-community is breeding malicious alt-accounts that intentionally spread FUD and attack other users using specious arguments.

Now I understand why thelastword thelastword said what he said. Jim wants to see him in person soon and I don't think there's a better time than now.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I just did a double take on this part of your rant and dude, are you serious? Have you been living under a rock voluntarily and ignored the fact that atleast 15 (FIFTEEN) XBOX Alt-Accounts were created over thr past few weeks?

It's one thing when Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem doubles down on a specific topic, but it's another entirely different thing when your sub-community is breeding malicious alt-accounts that intentionally spread FUD and attack other users using specious arguments.

Now I understand why thelastword thelastword said what he said. Jim wants to see him in person soon and I don't think there's a better time than now.
First, what does. Discord thread have to do with neogaf people being banned?

Second, who are these people making 15 alt acts? Drive by shitposters? Or people who have long-standing gaf accounts who can’t wait a week for a temp ban to expire?

I’m not talking about random trollers making acts they know will get banned in a few days.

If there’s so many Xbox alt acts being created like crazy then how come the ban tab has doesn’t have many permaban alt acts from Xbox gamers?

Are you saying mods are doing a crap job letting Xbox trollers live on?

and besides why do you even call it “my sub community?” I don’t even do Discord message boards.
 
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First, what does. Discord thread have to do with neogaf people being banned?

Second, who are these people making 15 alt acts? Drive by shitposters? Or people who have long-standing gaf accounts who can’t wait a week for a temp ban to expire?

I’m not talking about random trollers making acts they know will get banned in a few days.

If there’s so many Xbox alt acts being created like crazy then how come the ban tab has doesn’t have many permaban alt acts from Xbox gamers?

Are you saying mods are doing a crap job letting Xbox trollers live on?
What a disappointing response.

Typical grammar-school argumentation, dismissing the points I made and cheap rhetorical questions won't change the facts that your sub-community is the main force of discord (pun intended) on GAF and the Ban Page proves it.
 

nush

Gold Member
I'd love everyone to take a step back, and make fun about 'the other console' in a lovable respectful way again.

Lets go back to the good old days of sending hand drawn pictures of Mario cutting off Sonics head (With "Realistic" blood) to the editorial offices of gaming magazines in the hope that they'll print them in the next issue of thier nationally distributed publication.
 

TLZ

Banned
Can I request that Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem be unbanned? There are many warriors here, but him I always found warring in jest, nothing serious. He doesn't take things to heart and it's all light-hearted fun to him, and from what I can see from his posts. He's also repeatedly said that iirc.

Surprisingly I find the Nintendo ones to be the most quiet these days, which is usually not the case in my experience.
They're all on resetera.
 

thelastword

Banned
Can't answer you all, but here is the problem......Some posters can't help themselves, they go after posters and not the content all over gaf creating an issue, it's stalkish at best, they feel if they get certain posters banned that their echo chamber will be louder and their marketing work will go down smoother.....We are all fans of one system or another, but some guys take this way too seriously and personalize it way too much......That's why you will never find me here begging for anyone's ban for their position, so I can respect a poster like statham or Alexandros, my only issue are people who can't argue without resorting to insults. Some posters you actually see the hate and vitriol through their posts and it's directed at posters just because they disagree with them, that is air-bubble culture, these people have to re-evaluate the strength and elasticity of their skin. because that cant be a good attitude for the real world. Here we are protected by anonymity but if you go insulting and throwing tantrums for tame stuff out there, you would be in for a world of hurt and anxiety...

Just look at the first couple of responses to my post here, it's the same thing, people cant just deconstruct a post without the personal hateful clingings……..Even this thread, I've seen it used more for people airing out their distaste for other posters, this should not be, we come in here to debate why certain fallen posters should be given a second chance or to have their bans reversed, but some people still console-warize this whole thing, they come here to ban-beg instead, even for posters who are not banned and did not break the TOS, that's sad that these posters can't argue their way in a conversation civilly but would rather just ask for bans for said posters......

I think there's a level of hypocrisy too....Whoever resorts to insults, I will not support, whether it's Sony, PC, Nintendo or XBOX. There are a few civil posters on all sides, they keep it together no matter what.....The problem especially with XBOX fans is that some of the calmer posters will see other posters go into every thread to disrupt it with wrong information/fud and they say nothing, they praise these posts with likes and any Sony poster who gets a little frustrated presenting the same data over and over again, they mass report.....It's a means to an end for them and it's their strategy...….And it's as simple as falsifying confirmed information like 9.2TF instead of 10.3, NO VRS, NO Mesh shaders, it is these falsehoods that most times get lots of back and fourth that goes no where.....

Here's the thing XBOX fans...….The PS5 is unlike the Series X, it just cant be a direct comparison, but in many instances I've seen a thread created to discuss aspects of the PS5 architecture, where the first page is riddled with 'another SSD thread, this is a dumb thread, 12 > 9.2TF, these are the posts that disrupts threads, so who exactly do you think are posting these? And as I said, these posts gets lots of likes and said posters are strengthened in their drive-by posting, they get pats on the back for spreading falsehood and trying to quell discussion on a "discussion forum", can you imagine?...….So I'm not at all surprised if there is organized thread shitting and trying to get people not to discuss PS5......The Discord leaks/revelations were tantamount and I happen to have seen the ID name of a so called neutral poster here who has been campaigning for my ban the last few months like an obsession...…..I'll say this, I don't have a Sony clique, I have always been a lone ranger, my opinions are mine and mine only, no Sony guy has to agree.....I don't have meetings to battle XBOX fans, many times when I see certain people mention my name, I don't even remember the discourse....Guys grow up, if we had a disagreement on consoles since 2011, why are you still harboring this in 2020, my posting style suggests that I never attacked you personally, only the argument, so if you are so personal about things I said about a console, you need to re-evaluate things urgently, life is too short for all that anger..


How about trying this, allow the discussions to remain factual, don't drop in drivebys you know to be false info, if we take the info MS and Sony gave, we can discuss the pros and cons civilly, but you need to bring more to the table than 12>9.2TF.....Also XBOX fans generally just wait for some one to make a PS5 thread and they go to town, why is no XBOX fan making a XBOX thread where they discuss why the hardware assembly is well thought out and why it will be more than enough to create great looking games, why it will be fast enough and why the memory setup will be good enough and explain technically.....You cant fault a PS guy for believing in PS5's architecture, the consoles are different from this gen, so of course there are lots of unknowns and lots of good discussion to be had surrounding them......If we do less drivebys and less eschewing of confirmed information the tech threads will go much better....

We need to start making better and more truthful arguments.....Having said that, the culture of people only wanting people they agree with or like on GAF, "because of a piece of plastic" maybe it's undoing. GAF is not an echo chamber, the whole point is to propogate discussion, just look at how easy things will go silent if all people do is agree. I suspect some people may just want that, perhaps they should re-create the XBOX forums, but like anything else, they would still not be satisfied because on the XBOX forum, you would get threads like "Look at what this POS poster is saying about the PS5's SSD on GAF", so it will never end until your tolerance to other views can be handled better ......I don't hate any XBOX, PC, Nintendo or Sega fan here, people like what they like, just discuss civilly without denying confirmed information...…...I don't want anyone to get banned either, I've been on a few forums, the people who act tough online are usually not that tough at all, cut the BS, let's just discuss the games...
 

Jooxed

Gold Member
Can I request that Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem be unbanned? There are many warriors here, but him I always found warring in jest, nothing serious. He doesn't take things to heart and it's all light-hearted fun to him, and from what I can see from his posts. He's also repeatedly said that iirc.


They're all on resetera.

Untrue we have a good Nintendo community here we just keep to ourselves.

 
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If there’s so many Xbox alt acts being created like crazy then how come the ban tab has doesn’t have many permaban alt acts from Xbox gamers?

Are you taking about Meirl and his alts? I'm sure the mods made a post about them somewhere within this thread.

I'm just saying that all fanbases do the same crap. It's just each fanbase isn't going to send their own kind to the chopping block. That's why some people struggle to see this.
 
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cormack12

Gold Member
Without singling people out, since the bannings and warnings were handed out, I can actually follow the nextGen thread again without having four or five pages of the same two or three users arguing or trying to outdo each other with snark. There was another one as well that went off the rails, maybe the Crytek interview. Just makes me close the thread. It's hard enough seeing people post their sums which all differ coming to ridiculous FLOPS answers. The best posts in there are the ones that give some context - there was a person on here, pcorcer maybe - their posts are decent to follow
 

nush

Gold Member
Hey hold up that Coolwhhip Coolwhhip ban is inconsistent modding. No idea why he would be banned for that especially as it's been there for over a day. Conspiracy theorist in me says he just got reported by one of the many active CCP apologists running wild unchecked on this forum.

Also I don't see anyone else getting banned for saying exactly the same thing for China or other countries. Anyone is welcome to see that this is true.


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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
Hey hold up that C Coolwhip ban is inconsistent modding. No idea why he would be banned for that especially as it's been there for over a day. Conspiracy theorist in me says he just got reported by one of the many active CCP apologists running wild unchecked on this forum.

Also I don't see anyone else getting banned for saying exactly the same thing for China or other countries. Anyone is welcome to see that this is true.


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Agreed. Besides quite frankly nuking China is probably the only sensible choice - nothing else will get them to back off and stop fucking up the world.
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
I have to admit, something about those bans doesn’t sit well with me.

Feels like it should be on the community to say, ‘That’s a dumb fucking statement’.

Save the bans and permas for people who are truly awful, disruptive posters, not someone blowing off some steam (China did just screw the entire world, and literally will get probably millions killed by the end of this) or saying something stupid on a bad day.
 
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EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
I'll reduce it to a warning. Mao did say, after all:

“I’m not afraid of nuclear war. There are 2.7 billion people in the world; it doesn’t matter if some are killed. China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left.”

This isn't a real call to violence, or a call to violence toward a specific person or ethnic group, so we can let it go.
 
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nush

Gold Member
I'll reduce it to a warning. Mao did say, after all:

“I’m not afraid of nuclear war. There are 2.7 billion people in the world; it doesn’t matter if some are killed. China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left.”

This isn't a real call to violence, or a call to violence toward a specific person or ethnic group, so we can let it go,

Thanks for taking the time to review it.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Thanks a lot to all of you around here: SonGoku SonGoku MiyazakiHatesKojima MiyazakiHatesKojima thelastword thelastword Rusco Da Vino Rusco Da Vino TLZ TLZ and all the users and mods (like dear EviLore EviLore and Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered ) around here who took a part of their time to give it to a stranger like me.

I've been getting ridiculed for quite a time now and I always tried to keep it subjective and direct to the debate (which some call it trolling because they can't contribute or reply subjectively). After the last 1 week ban I stopped using the likes: Xbox fanboys, Xbots. And my criticism, when happens, was directly to Microsoft and Xbox backed with links and citations not out of the blue, which is fair play in journalism.

I'm trying to contribute as best as possible, of course I'm biased towards Sony, that's why I'm using this avatar, at least I'm not a liar pretending to be neutral then act extremely on either side. Some tried to call me Sony fanboy or Sony Pony, and they got "offended" because I don't get offended by those silly, childish names but laugh and have fun instead. Mods can even tag me with "Sony Pony, Sony Fanboy" if that makes them happy.

I think I was a victim of a team work (organized ban plan) because some just don't like my opinions, even though I don't insult or take it to a personal level. I understand that memes are now not allowed? Because at the beginning of me signing it was like the sugar of the speculation thread (my home:lollipop_tears_of_joy:). Sometimes it get's heated so memes can help for a laugh and ease up the mood around there, but some can't laugh or take it lightly, I guess.

Anyway, I won't go hostile as some would expect or like laugh or say "fuck you haters". I'll continue normally but with "out of jail" photo, if allowed. :lollipop_tears_of_joy:

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(Thank you for unbanning me)
 
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Can't answer you all, but here is the problem......Some posters can't help themselves, they go after posters and not the content all over gaf creating an issue, it's stalkish at best, they feel if they get certain posters banned that their echo chamber will be louder and their marketing work will go down smoother.....We are all fans of one system or another, but some guys take this way too seriously and personalize it way too much......That's why you will never find me here begging for anyone's ban for their position, so I can respect a poster like statham or Alexandros, my only issue are people who can't argue without resorting to insults. Some posters you actually see the hate and vitriol through their posts and it's directed at posters just because they disagree with them, that is air-bubble culture, these people have to re-evaluate the strength and elasticity of their skin. because that cant be a good attitude for the real world. Here we are protected by anonymity but if you go insulting and throwing tantrums for tame stuff out there, you would be in for a world of hurt and anxiety...

Just look at the first couple of responses to my post here, it's the same thing, people cant just deconstruct a post without the personal hateful clingings……..Even this thread, I've seen it used more for people airing out their distaste for other posters, this should not be, we come in here to debate why certain fallen posters should be given a second chance or to have their bans reversed, but some people still console-warize this whole thing, they come here to ban-beg instead, even for posters who are not banned and did not break the TOS, that's sad that these posters can't argue their way in a conversation civilly but would rather just ask for bans for said posters......

I think there's a level of hypocrisy too....Whoever resorts to insults, I will not support, whether it's Sony, PC, Nintendo or XBOX. There are a few civil posters on all sides, they keep it together no matter what.....The problem especially with XBOX fans is that some of the calmer posters will see other posters go into every thread to disrupt it with wrong information/fud and they say nothing, they praise these posts with likes and any Sony poster who gets a little frustrated presenting the same data over and over again, they mass report.....It's a means to an end for them and it's their strategy...….And it's as simple as falsifying confirmed information like 9.2TF instead of 10.3, NO VRS, NO Mesh shaders, it is these falsehoods that most times get lots of back and fourth that goes no where.....

Here's the thing XBOX fans...….The PS5 is unlike the Series X, it just cant be a direct comparison, but in many instances I've seen a thread created to discuss aspects of the PS5 architecture, where the first page is riddled with 'another SSD thread, this is a dumb thread, 12 > 9.2TF, these are the posts that disrupts threads, so who exactly do you think are posting these? And as I said, these posts gets lots of likes and said posters are strengthened in their drive-by posting, they get pats on the back for spreading falsehood and trying to quell discussion on a "discussion forum", can you imagine?...….So I'm not at all surprised if there is organized thread shitting and trying to get people not to discuss PS5......The Discord leaks/revelations were tantamount and I happen to have seen the ID name of a so called neutral poster here who has been campaigning for my ban the last few months like an obsession...…..I'll say this, I don't have a Sony clique, I have always been a lone ranger, my opinions are mine and mine only, no Sony guy has to agree.....I don't have meetings to battle XBOX fans, many times when I see certain people mention my name, I don't even remember the discourse....Guys grow up, if we had a disagreement on consoles since 2011, why are you still harboring this in 2020, my posting style suggests that I never attacked you personally, only the argument, so if you are so personal about things I said about a console, you need to re-evaluate things urgently, life is too short for all that anger..


How about trying this, allow the discussions to remain factual, don't drop in drivebys you know to be false info, if we take the info MS and Sony gave, we can discuss the pros and cons civilly, but you need to bring more to the table than 12>9.2TF.....Also XBOX fans generally just wait for some one to make a PS5 thread and they go to town, why is no XBOX fan making a XBOX thread where they discuss why the hardware assembly is well thought out and why it will be more than enough to create great looking games, why it will be fast enough and why the memory setup will be good enough and explain technically.....You cant fault a PS guy for believing in PS5's architecture, the consoles are different from this gen, so of course there are lots of unknowns and lots of good discussion to be had surrounding them......If we do less drivebys and less eschewing of confirmed information the tech threads will go much better....

We need to start making better and more truthful arguments.....Having said that, the culture of people only wanting people they agree with or like on GAF, "because of a piece of plastic" maybe it's undoing. GAF is not an echo chamber, the whole point is to propogate discussion, just look at how easy things will go silent if all people do is agree. I suspect some people may just want that, perhaps they should re-create the XBOX forums, but like anything else, they would still not be satisfied because on the XBOX forum, you would get threads like "Look at what this POS poster is saying about the PS5's SSD on GAF", so it will never end until your tolerance to other views can be handled better ......I don't hate any XBOX, PC, Nintendo or Sega fan here, people like what they like, just discuss civilly without denying confirmed information...…...I don't want anyone to get banned either, I've been on a few forums, the people who act tough online are usually not that tough at all, cut the BS, let's just discuss the games...
I wish these posts were short and to the point. Pretty much you're putting all of the blame on Xbox fans. Even when we're seeing fanboys from both sides being banned. How can there be such a lack of self-awareness and irony with you guys?
 

Geki-D

Banned
Pretty much you're putting all of the blame on Xbox fans. Even when we're seeing fanboys from both sides being banned. How can there be such a lack of self-awareness and irony with you guys?
This is the review thread for Bleeding Edge, an Xbox Studios game with a middling review score.
It has 2 pages of posts over the span of about 3 days of activity since it was created on the 10th.

This is a review thread for Days Gone, a Sony studios game that had gotten 2 average review scores:
It has 8 pages of Xbox fanboy victory laps because a Sony game got some low scores.

This the official review thread for Days Gone.
It has 7 pages of more Xbox fanboy victory laps because a Sony game got below an 8.

This the specific Xbox fanboy victory lap thread for Days Gone.
It has 7 pages of Xbox fanboys dancing around in joy that a Sony game didn't score too well.

Can we please stop pretending that both communities act equally on GAF?
 
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Jooxed

Gold Member
This is the review thread for Bleeding Edge, an Xbox Studios game with a middling review score.
It has 2 pages of posts over the span of about 3 days of activity since it was created on the 10th.

This is a review thread for Days Gone, a Sony studios game that had gotten 2 average review scores:
It has 8 pages of Xbox fanboy victory laps because a Sony game got some low scores.

This the official review thread for Days Gone.
It has 7 pages of more Xbox fanboy victory laps because a Sony game got below an 8.

This the specific Xbox fanboy victory lap thread for Days Gone.
It has 7 pages of Xbox fanboys dancing around in joy that a Sony game didn't score too well.

Can we please stop pretending that both communities act equally on GAF?

Obviously this is a NIntendo site.
 
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