New DMC4 Screens -- Does Wario say wow?

bud said:
im pretty sure kosma is ms' tjhooker

"Hooker was a lady's man"
according to Wikipedia. Sorry never watched that show.

But seriously what has MS to do with this?

It's just crazy imho that a game like HS gets more hype from some people when theyre developer hasn't proven anything , just like Killzone 2.

The you have games like Resistance and DMC4 by proven developers that actually deliver.
 
Almost up to par with Lost Planet. Textures on his outfit and stuff still don't look "right" yet. Lost Planet, everything pops, and looks crisp and sharp. Maybe since it is only at 30fps they are able to put more detail. Oh well, still a few more months. GET A DEMO ON LIVE MARKETPLACE CAPCOM!
 
oo Kosma oo said:
"Hooker was a lady's man"
according to Wikipedia. Sorry never watched that show.

But seriously what has MS to do with this?

It's just crazy imho that a game like HS gets more hype from some people when theyre developer hasn't proven anything , just like Killzone 2.

The you have games like Resistance and DMC4 by proven developers that actually deliver.

Actually it was the playable E3 demo that started it. Killzone 2 hasn't been played by the public yet.
 
you talked about capcom's trackrecord and then you mentioned dmc2...lol

and nt that's developing hs isn't the same nt that made kung fu chaos.
 
Seiken said:
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Also, this shit will look twice as good in motion - just like DMC4 (!!!!)

What what in the wutt?
 
All bitching aside guys, it's not that crazy to trust devs like Capcom, Bungie, Insomniac, Bioware, Epic, Konami etc. more then unproven teams like Ninja Theory.
 
oo Kosma oo said:
All bitching aside guys, it's not that crazy to trust devs like Capcom, Bungie, Insomniac, Bioware, Epic, Konami etc. more then unproven teams like Ninja Theory.

oh look at bungie, they made oni. that means that the games they released after oni, like the halos, were '':lol'' amirite?
 
Dunno man you sound kind of pissed I placed developers like bungie above ninja theory.

I get your point so don't worry, sure HS can turn out to be a killer game, but at this point it's still unproven.
 
gogogow said:
Alright, I've seen that gif so many times (with Anihawk's avatar hair), now, does someone know where it's from and what's happening in that gif?

Clearly it's some kind on the news, and his expression is: "wtf is going on here". (probably confused by whatever is going on around him).
 
On the one hand, it's true that reviewers and many gamers have an aversion to new franchises. If you try to topple the genre kings, someone's going to hate you for even trying.

But it's not as though Devil May Cry is somehow mired in convention. The game offers the kind of depth and seamless fluidity that other developers can't touch. That's kind of why David Jaffe himself just said "Yeah, we know. It's not as deep." when talking about God of War.

Heavenly Sword, to its credit is extremely attractive from an artistic standpoint and is lit incredibly well. Also, those large-scale battles will no doubt be very impressive technically. It's also going for that ultra-cinematic feel like God of War did.

However, whether it "clicks" the way Capcom's game does remains to be seen. I suspect it will find praise for completely different reasons than DMC4 will.
 
Speevy said:
On the one hand, it's true that reviewers and many gamers have an aversion to new franchises. If you try to topple the genre kings, someone's going to hate you for even trying.

But it's not as though Devil May Cry is somehow mired in convention. The game offers the kind of depth and seamless fluidity that other developers can't touch. That's kind of why David Jaffe himself just said "Yeah, we know. It's not as deep." when talking about God of War.

Heavenly Sword, to its credit is extremely attractive from an artistic standpoint and is lit incredibly well. Also, those large-scale battles will no doubt be very impressive technically. It's also going for that ultra-cinematic feel like God of War did.

However, whether it "clicks" the way Capcom's game does remains to be seen. I suspect it will find praise for completely different reasons than DMC4 will.

i agree 100%, smart post :)
 
Speevy said:
On the one hand, it's true that reviewers and many gamers have an aversion to new franchises. If you try to topple the genre kings, someone's going to hate you for even trying.

But is HS really trying to topple DMC? To outsiders, both games might seem to offer the same style of gameplay but people who have played both can easily tell the difference. HS is as different from DMC as Halo is different from Doom. It makes more sense to compare DMC with a game like Ninja Gaiden than with a game like HS.
 
Better have both images in the same resolution :)

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It seems you bitter forgot something. DMC producer mentioned that, normally a lot of developers will be working around with the idea of 'How do we create game with this engine ?'. But it is different from 'Capcom's developers' where they goal is something like 'How do the engine support the game ?'

They have their freakin programmers , and the engine is design to do something in general purpose rather than specific and handle everything in the game. They will actually re-modify the engine for using in DMC. So please stop bashing the current visual just because they use 'Friendly port engine'. The game won't be magically better in graphic if they decide to write their own engine. This is not even the best team in Capcom :)

From the technical standpoint , i don't think it's not as impressive as Heavenly Sword. But that's from the heavily use of HDR and proper lighting in that game. Heavenly Sword texture and character model is not any better than DMC (even less in details). And I don't think you can do the combo or whatever actions you have in Heavenly Sword in the same level as DMC. The latest movie I saw , I only see slash slash and click button from active time battle event (God of War bit).
 
Speevy said:
On the one hand, it's true that reviewers and many gamers have an aversion to new franchises. If you try to topple the genre kings, someone's going to hate you for even trying.

But it's not as though Devil May Cry is somehow mired in convention. The game offers the kind of depth and seamless fluidity that other developers can't touch. That's kind of why David Jaffe himself just said "Yeah, we know. It's not as deep." when talking about God of War.

...ugh someone forgot a game called Ninja Gaiden
 
Petrarca said:
...ugh someone forgot a game called Ninja Gaiden


I didn't forget Ninja Gaiden, but Ninja Gaiden stands on its own against Devil May Cry, even when you think of them as similar games.

And of course no one else mentioned NG either, so I wanted to limit the sidetracking as much as I could.
 
Feindflug said:
Both look awesome. :)

HS looks much better than DMC4.

I think DMC4 has been degraded graphically after it was announced for x360 which is understandable but it all comes down to gameplay which would be good no doubt.
 
wasim007 said:
HS looks much better than DMC4.

I think DMC4 has been degraded graphically after it was announced for x360 which is understandable but it all comes down to gameplay which would be good no doubt.

:lol
 
wasim007 said:
HS looks much better than DMC4.

I think DMC4 has been degraded graphically after it was announced for x360 which is understandable but it all comes down to gameplay which would be good no doubt.

I say wow.
 
wasim007 said:
HS looks much better than DMC4.

I think DMC4 has been degraded graphically after it was announced for x360 which is understandable but it all comes down to gameplay which would be good no doubt.

Riiiiiiight...

The environment in HS is way too angular though.
 
gconsole said:
Better have both images in the same resolution :)

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DMC4 looks a lot better than HS in that comparison (at same resolution). But to be fair, it's probably because of the situtation of what's happening in those shots.
 
C- Warrior said:
Indeed, but apparently HS is the new graphical showcase. I still think games like DMC4 and Sigma are more visually inviting to me than HS.

Big epic waterfalls and epic battles with epic retard dynasty warrior rejects and shit doesn't do anything for me.

And personally, the only thing more impressive about HS animations than DMC tends to come from the QTE/Shenmue inspired animations. As for the in-game animations, DMC4 is staccato, short quick and compact. Of course, HS will seem to have more elaborate animations because the game lends itself ot a more wild/button mashy approach where they can go wild for this.

But I'd rather have smooth, decent animations that are quick that lend itself to the gameplay, than long-winded ones that you get bored of for watching for the bajallionth time.

And then we have the fact that HS is near approaching done, and DMC4 is still listed as TBA. Ultimately, if screenshots sell games -- maybe it was a mistake for Capcom to make DMC4 60 fps. Maybe they should it down to 720p and 30 fps. And the damage control is do---

*gets sniped in the head and dies due to 30 fps comment*

You are just blinded by whatever reason. DMC4 looks mediocre, has always looked mediocre and will continue to look mediocre. HS is what you get when you work on a single machine and try to do the best you can with it. DMC4 is an example of a whored game whose sole and only purpose is profit, while the objective of being the best game it can is far down below the list.

Sure, DMC4´s gameplay will most likely be better than HS´s. That is something no one denies. That still doesn´t change the fact that 4 is hardly any better than DMC3 in HD with a bit of bump mapping going on. Capcom is far from being competent in creating good looking next gen games and this one is no different.
 
Logan Cano said:
Sure, DMC4´s gameplay will most likely be better than HS´s. That is something no one denies.

I'd imagine that to be the important thing.

Logan Cano said:
Capcom is far from being competent in creating good looking next gen games and this one is no different.

You do realize, this Capcom -- this company that whores games and that is "far from creating good looking next gen games" have released two games that if anything -- have recieved praise for it's graphical showcases.
 
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