new Mario Kart DS pics
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Spiritreaver
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Screens comparisons just do not work guys, there's not enough to justify what looks "better". Especially with two systems with different strengths and weaknesses. Maybe if this was MK64DS where we could get the same screens of both games to view side by side, but that's not the case. Secondly, I hate to overuse this excuse, but uh, why bother with talking over screens rather than actual footage? :\
Anywho, fundamentally different MK? I think this has some great potential to be "different". I'm sure Nintendo is going to do a little more than just a normal racer, and ignoring the other features of the DS. I'm hoping so much on at least pinpointing shells. Where you get to choose the target.
Anywho, fundamentally different MK? I think this has some great potential to be "different". I'm sure Nintendo is going to do a little more than just a normal racer, and ignoring the other features of the DS. I'm hoping so much on at least pinpointing shells. Where you get to choose the target.
Mama Smurf
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Redbeard said:
Who says you can't? (You probably can't, but we don't know.) Who knows what DS features it'll take advantage of? Personally I don't care if it takes advantage of any, I hate the idea that developers should be forced to use any of the features if they don't fit in with the game. If there's something that'll fit the game, do it. If not, don't force some crap on it just to appear unique.
Nintendo has already shown games making good use of the DS's capabilities, let's just have a good mix of everything.
soundwave05
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I hope there's no unneccessary touch screen stuff.
Just let it be Mario Kart for crying out loud, Nintendo on average only releases one Mario Kart like every 3-4 years (insane for such a popular franchise), so yeah I'm more than cool with just having a good Mario Kart game with WiFi multiplayer.
In motion, Mario Kart DS will kill Mario Kart 64, book it.
Just let it be Mario Kart for crying out loud, Nintendo on average only releases one Mario Kart like every 3-4 years (insane for such a popular franchise), so yeah I'm more than cool with just having a good Mario Kart game with WiFi multiplayer.
In motion, Mario Kart DS will kill Mario Kart 64, book it.
ge-man said:
I agree with this. If a company made The Best Game Ever for DS, but it didn't use the touch capabilities, would people really be that angry about it? Hopefully, most games will use it, but if some don't is that really a problem? Is it wrong to make an easily accessible game that'll be great for wireless multiplayer?
I'm surprised they haven't announced a Smash Brothers game for this, yet, but I guess that Jump Super Stars game fills that niche?
MrAngryFace
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You know, if Nintendo is going to tell me 2 screens is some kind of revolution, I want every 1st party game to fucking use the second screen in a meaningful manner if they expect me to pay for their handheld.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Oh and I may well be remembering wrong (though I don't think I am), but I think this is the first time in the series that you've been able to see all your opponents' items by their position on screen.
Nothing huge, but for those desperate for something new, there it is. It's probably even a consequence of the second screen too (not that it couldn't be done without it), you don't want to clutter a screen as small as the DS's.
Nothing huge, but for those desperate for something new, there it is. It's probably even a consequence of the second screen too (not that it couldn't be done without it), you don't want to clutter a screen as small as the DS's.
Mama Smurf
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MrAngryFace said:
Well don't pay for it then. Why should every game take advantage of it? What if some games just take advantage of the microphone? Or some just the wireless play?
Mama Smurf
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Society said:
If it doesn't use any of the features, they shouldn't (exception being if the PSP fucks up and the DS takes off, obviously then the reason would be userbase).
Where the fuck is this N64 port thing coming from? It doesn't look anything like that game to me.
Mama Smurf
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Society said:
No. How far off is the GBA2? Every Nintendo system since the SNES has had a single Mario Kart iteration. Why shouldn't the DS? And why are you ignoring the DS's wireless capabilities for this game? We don't know if it's going to take advantage of the touchscreen or microphone etc in any way yet (though you seem pretty certain it won't), but we can be pretty damn sure on the wirless thing.
And we were talking about third parties, who have the option of going elsewhere.
MrAngryFace
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Its not a fucking 'revolution' if the second screen is going to sit around being used for maps n shit.
Mama Smurf
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And in what way does that mean that every Nintendo game has to use the second screen for something other than a map?
Oh yey, now we're playing the "I know the future" game again.
Oh yey, now we're playing the "I know the future" game again.
MrAngryFace
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Am I? So far the only game that seems to really use the Second screen for anything decent is Advance Wars DS. So what does that leave you with, graphics that exceed the GBA SP by a small margin. And I mean small, nothing about mario 64 DS looks better than the N64 version.
Just seems like people are making this gigantic allowances for a hand-held that refuses to actually push any real boundries despite its release being founded on the idea of a 'revolution in gameplay'.
Just stick with your GBA SP's. Its the superior handheld.
Just seems like people are making this gigantic allowances for a hand-held that refuses to actually push any real boundries despite its release being founded on the idea of a 'revolution in gameplay'.
Just stick with your GBA SP's. Its the superior handheld.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I was talking about the touchscreen menus comment.
My original complaint wasn't so much that Mario Kart doesn't use the DS's unique capabilities, but that they choose to put the old conventional standbys on the DS instead of coming up with something new, something that could actually benefit from the system beyond wireless.
Why not resurrect this instead?
You could use the stylus to guide your little car around the tracks.
Why not resurrect this instead?
You could use the stylus to guide your little car around the tracks.
MrAngryFace
Banned
Oh lets just ignore the way things are! Typical Nintendo crap. GBA SP > DS thats all there is to it.
radioheadrule83
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MrAngryFace said:
Well I think there are plenty of games that have used them well. One screen is always free of either menu/HUD clutter and your hand getting in the way when using the stylus. The other is used exclusively for touch screen elements and/or as extra angles or information. I don't have a problem with this. I feel Yoshi's Touch & Go, Pac Pix, the Mario 64 DS minigames and similar applications were all perfectly useful, and seemingly FUN, applications. Though it hasn't made itself entirely evident in the first generation software, which need I remind everyone was made in a matter of a few short months -- I certainly believe there will be compelling stuff to hit this console. When a developer sits down and makes a console game, they're playing with the same variables they've always been playing with. When thinking of improvements - there are only so many roads they can go down. Usually more complex event scripting, AI, more bombastic, more advanced graphics. With this console - they're engaged from the get-go. What can I use the second screen for? What use could the stylus have? Will implimenting wi-fi elements enhance my game? What about the microphone? They don't even have to make games really.
Look at Square-Enix, Bandai and Nintendo themselves. Respectively you've got one toying with PlayOnline, another making the machines network with PCs, and Nintendo themselves writing their own protocols - including voice chat. People rag on this machine because they aren't seeing any evidence that it's bringing anything new to the table -- 1) I think it's already brought quite a few new things, 2) I think it promises more.
Just my two cents. Carry on bitching.
MrAngryFace
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Has it brought anything MEANINGFUL. I see a lot of fucking gimmicks
JoshuaJSlone
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As long as RAM and bandwidth are finite, things will be watered down.Pimpbaa said:
radioheadrule83
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You're ASSuming it doesn't use all the new hardware elements. Why?
Mama Smurf
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MrAngryFace said:
Look, I love Advance Wars as much as the next guy, but from what we've been shown so far (which isn't much), I'm not entirely sure how the second screen is being put to great use. Seems to me your judgement is being clouded by your love for the series. Now perhaps the screen set up interacts in a way we don't know yet, but I don't see why you couldn't just press a button on a single screen system and bring up the sky battle scene.
Don't look at the two screens as something seperate from the touch screen. Oh sure, some games will use the second screen without the touchscreen, as a basic map or whatever, but I think the reason for two screens is basically that there are going to be plenty of games (like Metroid Prime: Hunters) where you're going to be using the touchscreen so much and it's so fast moving, that blocking the view with your hand/stylus (as you would be on a single screen) is less than ideal.
Maybe Nintendo didn't plan it that way, but I don't see much innovative coming from having two screens alone (maybe a few things, Zelda Four Swords comes to mind). Combine it with one being touch sensitive though, and I do.
As for Advance Wars being the only game to take advantage of it, I don't agree at all. Yoshi's Touch & Go, Kirby...whatever it's called...Wario Ware, Puppy Times, Jam With The Band, Pictochat, that ermmm...puzzle game (I forget what it's called) all seem to be great uses to me. There's other games we don't know about yet in terms of how they're going to control, so I won't comment on them. And, while I realise we're talking first party here, you have third party titles like Pac Pix and Feel the Magic making good use of the system's unique capabilities too.
[qoute]So what does that leave you with, graphics that exceed the GBA SP by a small margin. And I mean small, nothing about mario 64 DS looks better than the N64 version.[/quote]
You've probably just not followed it closely enough, but that's not true at all. Despite the lack of texture filtering (I honestly don't know why it's not in there, thoguh apparently it's not a huge issue on a smaller screen), a lot fot eh game looks considerably better. Better textures, higher ploygon count, higher framerate.
I don't believe it will, but even if it turns out that the DS doesn't come up with anything revolutionary, surely just the fact that it can do things better is good enough. Let's take realtime strategy games as an example. They've never taken off on consoles, and the reason is obvious...no mouse. It's just so awkward to select troops or units with an analogue stick or D pad. You can do it, sure you can...it's just crap and slow. The DS on the otherhand doesn't have this problem. The stylus may even be more accurate than a mouse, we'll see. It's certainly good enough though.
You could now argue that RTS on a small screen doesn't sound very easy to control, but that's where the two screens come in. You could control detailed, smaller areas of the overall map on the bottom screen when you need to work in close detail, and you can see the entire map on the top screen. And when you want a different portion of the top map, you press a button and they switch screens, you draw a square around the part you want to zoom in on and that pops up on the bottom screen.
Or you can look at Advance Wars if you like, as you brought it up. As far as I'm aware, there's nothing we've seen so far which you couldn't do with a single screen, it'd just be more awkward. The DS's capabilities (in this case two screens) just make it better. Not innovative, just better. Is that not enough? You don't have to believe in what nintendo says to buy a system you know.
MrAngryFace
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How is it better? Unless youre a graphics whore. I mean you guys are playing Mario Kart AFUCKINGGAIN!
Vibri said:
Ok, that's a worthy complaint. But, I for one would rather them rush out a few N64 ports(one of the reasons why I want the DS in the first place) and allow them to take their time on the truely innovative software to make sure it's high quality once it's released.