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New model GBA SP?

CVXFREAK said:
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ok, you can stop showing off now.

Everything tells me I shouldn't get a micro, but I want one nevertheless.
 
mrkgoo said:
ok, you can stop showing off now.

Everything tells me I shouldn't get a micro, but I want one nevertheless.

=(

The last pic is show-offy, the first one's to show them from the angle.
 
Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many copies of Pokemon you own
 
mdm said:
It would be monster lol if these don't have GB/GBC support.

Well, they do. It's the completey - same - exact SP that plays all the old games and has a link port and doesn't have a headphone jack, just with a better screen.
 
i doubt that the refresh is actually slower. the brighter display probably makes ghosting more apparent. hopefully i'll have mine tomorrow. i'm going to go poop on my ds.
 
CVXFREAK said:
=(

The last pic is show-offy, the first one's to show them from the angle.

i wish I had kept alot of my stuff, but moving around these days, it's kind of a pain to.

I started gaming with a brick GB, but eventually moved on. I iwsh I had the permanent address, and money to be a proper GameBoy collector.

In my ownership in the past, I also had:

GBpocket (silver) - couldn't believe the clarity and less blurriness. And no more green!
GBcolor (purple) - still have it. Wow, fancy pants color, and NO blur. Can teh GB get any better?
GBA (white) - wowser, a snes in my hands. No lighting, not a problem, I was used to GBC. Surely i didn't need a light. Did I?
GBSP (silver) - no batteries! Frontlight. OMG, what have I been missing? Best GB ever...or is it?
DS (silver) - backlight makes a huge difference!

now micro and newSP. Do i get them? I would like to have a Famicro, even though I never had a famicom perosnally - my cousin did, and it gives me warm fuzzies.
 
mrkgoo said:
i wish I had kept alot of my stuff, but moving around these days, it's kind of a pain to.

I started gaming with a brick GB, but eventually moved on. I iwsh I had the permanent address, and money to be a proper GameBoy collector.

In my ownership in the past, I also had:

GBpocket (silver) - couldn't believe the clarity and less blurriness. And no more green!
GBcolor (purple) - still have it. Wow, fancy pants color, and NO blur. Can teh GB get any better?
GBA (white) - wowser, a snes in my hands. No lighting, not a problem, I was used to GBC. Surely i didn't need a light. Did I?
GBSP (silver) - no batteries! Frontlight. OMG, what have I been missing? Best GB ever...or is it?
DS (silver) - backlight makes a huge difference!

now micro and newSP. Do i get them? I would like to have a Famicro, even though I never had a famicom perosnally - my cousin did, and it gives me warm fuzzies.

Eh... I'm not a Game Boy Collector at all. I just acquired all those because the situation was right. Pokemon Blue DS, VERY GOOD Yen-Dollar rate. Micro? Refund from a rebate. NES GBASP? Birthday. GBASP+? Very good EB trade in promotion which more than doubled the trade in value. The only ones I truly bought were the GBA, original SP and DS, which is normal.
 
mdm said:
If I didn't know better the buttons look improved

The buttons look identical to me. And I'm pretty sure they'll play GBC/GB games. I suspect (as i said earlier) taht the change is more becasue of manufacturing -it's possibly easier/cheaper/more efficient to unify the technology. Maybe. Regardlesss, it's still an SP, so it'll still have the GBC chip in it.
 
CVXFREAK said:
Eh... I'm not a Game Boy Collector at all. I just acquired all those because the situation was right. Pokemon Blue DS, VERY GOOD Yen-Dollar rate. Micro? Refund from a rebate. NES GBASP? Birthday. GBASP+? Very good EB trade in promotion which more than doubled the trade in value. The only ones I truly bought were the GBA, original SP and DS, which is normal.

regardless, nice collection! :)
 
That's nice.. I'll need to buy a new SP now. =( Oh well, I'm not going to rush and get it. I'll wait a while before I decide to pick it up..
 
mrkgoo said:
CVXfreak: you need a cmaera that can do this kind of macro (hope I don't kill the bandwidth):

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I only took one photography class ever, and that was film. I know shit for photography. =(

Hope better shots come soon.
 
This is the problem, and this is why a lot of people are complaining about Nintendo right now. They have no focus. They appear to be in their "Sega 1994-1995" phase, where's they're flying anything they can up the flagpole just to see if people will salute.

So Apple has no focus either with their ipod revisions?
 
jamesinclair said:
Theres a reason Nintendo handhelds have such a low attach ratio. A reason thats clearly visible when people show off their 12 GBs.

Exactly. Even Nintendo themselves half-admit that on the back of the SP box, which reads something like "Play GBC and GBA games YOU ALREADY OWN." Understandable for the former, but for the latter, not as much.
 
Future said:
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This is the problem, and this is why a lot of people are complaining about Nintendo right now. They have no focus. They appear to be in their "Sega 1994-1995" phase, where's they're flying anything they can up the flagpole just to see if people will salute.
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No way. This is just a design revision. Hardware and functionality is the same, and it still plays the same games. If Nintendo can update their design and benefit the consumer, then they should at any given opportunity.

I think you missed my point. As I said before, I'd agree if this was just a mere hardware revision. I had no problem with the release of the GBASP when it was just the original GBA was on the market.

However, things are different today. They've already got the GBASP v1, and the DS, and they announced the GBM is coming in a few days...and then they go ahead and release the GBASP v2? I understand hardware revisions and all, but two different revisions of the same hardware within the period of one week? That's ridiculous.

Again, this makes me wonder when Nintendo is going to pull the same stunt with the DS.

Future said:
The Audio/Video Industry works this way as a whole. New products are made every year to replace the old, regardless if significant new features are added or not. And yeah, you could look at a Sony TV, an Ipod, or whatever and decide to wait a year for the next revision but then you wouldn't buy anything.

I understand, and I'd agree if this were an isolated case. But Nintendo has demonstrated a tendency in recent years to make snap announcements on new hardware, with two of their biggest (GBASP v1 and DS) occurring oh-so-conveniently in the middle of January when it was too late for people to return the "old" systems they just got for Christmas.

Future said:
The GBA SP2 is simply a hardware update. The GB Micro is an even more portable design to play GBA stuff if people want it. There is no splitting the market. There is no confusion for consumers. There is nothing but more options for people that what them.

Sure, more options. What's next, the GBATV that has a built in TV tuner? The GBApod that includes a built-in MP3 player? The GBAturbo with rapid fire switches for the fire buttons?

It seems like Nintendo is just tossing hardware out theire willy-nilly. What you forget is that retailers have to stock all these "options," and try to devote an appropriate amount of shelf space to all of them. That's not even accounting for the fact they all come in multiple colors, too. Just how many SKUs do we need these days?

Why does the GBM cost $20 more than the GBASP v2, anyway? We were originally told the GBM was costing more to manufacture because of its superior (relative to GBASP v1) screen technology. However, the GBASP v2 now employs the same LCD technology, with the same screen resolution, but the GBASP v2 screen is larger, and the GBASP v2 also plays GB/GBC games while GBM doesn't. You don't think anyone else would question that?

Future said:
Problems can arise when new hardware plays a different set of games, but Nintendo has had no problems with the DS so far either.

They may have problems now, thanks to Nintendo's sudden scattershot "upgrades." With the introduction of GBASP v2, the DS now has the worst LCD screen quality of any major handheld on the market.

You don't think Nintendo would release an improved DS with better LCD technology like GBASP v2 and GBM in the very near future? I sure do! In fact, I expect it, especially since the DS is Nintendo's high-end handheld and it would be strange for it to have a lower quality screen than their less powerful alternatives.

If I was about to buy a DS and I heard about the "upgrade" to GBASP, I'd rather just keep my money in my pocket and wait until the DS v2 comes out. It's not a case of "everyone eventually builds a better system" like having a new model of TV or stereo. It's a case of Nintendo doing this so frequently as of late that it's now become an expectation that they will release an updated model very soon. Anyone considering a DS purchase anytime before the end of this year should really think long and hard about that.
 
Agent X said:
You don't think Nintendo would release an improved DS with better LCD technology like GBASP v2 and GBM in the very near future? I sure do! In fact, I expect it, especially since the DS is Nintendo's high-end handheld and it would be strange for it to have a lower quality screen than their less powerful alternatives.
I actually expect the new screen to be in the Nintendogs DS bundles that are being released next month.
 
Agent X said:

You're weird. Product revisions are common in any and all products throught their lifetime. Nobody is shoving these revisions on people's faces. It they want them they will buy them. Gaming systems in particular are prone to these upgrades all the time, some more obvious than others. Changes in hard drives, DVD drives, CD lense, overall unit revisions. You're standing up for retailers and their shelf space and having to carry multiple SKUs? This stuff sells itself and they know it. People buy stuff because they want it. CAPITALISM.

Outside of these newsgroups people are not the wiser nor would they care. It seems to be you're bitching because you don't understand the basic concepts of supply and demand. Look it's the moon! Are you gonna bark?
 
Agent X said:
This is the problem, and this is why a lot of people are complaining about Nintendo right now. They have no focus. They appear to be in their "Sega 1994-1995" phase, where's they're flying anything they can up the flagpole just to see if people will salute.
Not at all the same. Sega was attempting to support up to 7 distinct platforms at one time (Genesis/MD, Sega/Mega CD, Game Gear, 32X, 32X CD, Saturn, Pico). That's compared to Nintendo's 2 handheld platforms. And unlike SEGA, it seems everyone is "saluting" Nintendo.

Nintendo's handheld empire is more analogous to PlayStation or iPod than anything SEGA's ever done. In fact, there's been just as many PlayStations in the past 5 years as Nintendo handhelds.

-PlayStation 2
-PSone
-PlayStation 2 (revision, IR remote/DVD-R/etc)
-PSX
-PlayStation 2 (slim)
-PSP

-Game Boy Advance
-Pokemon Mini
-Game Boy Advance SP
-Nintendo DS
-Game Boy Micro
-Game Boy Advance SP (revision, backlit)
 
Wow, on some of those pictures, you can really see the difference in color between the new and old SP. It's not nearly as washed out.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Being utterly pessimistic you could always say the N64 was already five years old when the GBA was released, and looking at the relation between the PS2 and PSP, an educated consumer could expect at least a similar amount of power from a similar product. The only reason Nintendo didn't slap together a portable N64 in 2000 is because they were still the only dog in the handheld game.
$100 launch hardware versus $250 launch hardware is a totally different take on things. After the original/color Game Boy had gone a decade being the most popular thing around with a cheap price and basic graphics, what would make them want to more than double the price out of the blue to reach new a new technical height requiring more manpower to create games? It makes sense, though, that since Nintendo had that tactic covered that Sony would want to come from a different angle, though.

FortNinety said:
Sometimes when playing my SP, I'll turn the light off and go "What the fuck? I used to play like this?!"
Well, if you directly compare an original style GBA with a GBA SPv1 with its light off, the original GBA does seem to come out slightly ahead.
 
holy crap, I just picked one of these badboys up ---- I don't even know how I was able to play GBA games on the DS compared to the new SP's brightness - it hurts the eyes almost -

It'll be interesting to see how this compairs to my micro commin' in soon ---- right now the brightness is on par with my PSP being plugged into an outlet --- The refresh-rate seems a bit better, but still so bright (things like tiny details and paterns 'shift' when there's movement) you end up seeing some blur.
The viewing angle is up there with the PSP too.

Nice stealth-launch Nintendo : ] new SP goes good with my Rebelstar and DK king of swing.
 
I'm pretty sure the new GBA SP screen is the same one as the GBA Micro, just with a bigger screen size.

Anyways, it wouldn't surprise me at all if GB Micro + GBA SP outsell both the DS and PSP this Christmas in North America.
 
that's it, Nintendo wins, this will be my who-knows-what GBA, I've had too many

my brother and i got 2 back in '01 I think, then my brother got a platinum regular GBA, then I got a red SP, then I got a NES-edition SP, then I got a DS, then my brother got a DS, and I'm sure I'll want this and a micro

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that said, I'm not mad at Nintendo cause I knew there would be these incremental improvements just like GB -> GBA color, but I am a sucker for being so addicted to their stuff and not being able to wait...
 
backlit sp get! it took several minutes of explanations, but i managed to trade my old sp in for the new model on my extended warranty. gorgeous screen, compact clamshell design, gb/c support, reasonably nice to hold...this really is the perfect gameboy. sucks for people who bought micros, but i'm glad nintendo finally got it right. the brightness and color intensity on this thing are way better than on the ds...a hardware revision to bring it up to par seems inevitable. if i could somehow play castlevania: dos on this thing, i'd throw my ds out altogether.
 
I do not have the fucking cash for the most perfect Game Boy out there. I bought a damn NES SP and now it's OBSOLETE.

Guess I'll just have the Game Boy Player to help me through Gunstar Super Heroes and Final Fantasy IV this holiday season.
 
drohne said:
backlit sp get! it took several minutes of explanations, but i managed to trade my old sp in for the new model on my extended warranty. gorgeous screen, compact clamshell design, gb/c support, reasonably nice to hold...this really is the perfect gameboy. sucks for people who bought micros, but i'm glad nintendo finally got it right. the brightness and color intensity on this thing are way better than on the ds...a hardware revision to bring it up to par seems inevitable. if i could somehow play castlevania: dos on this thing, i'd throw my ds out altogether.

Meh ... really I think the GBA's library is heavily, heavily overrated.

In a year's time the DS will have a way better library than the GBA ever did with a ton of them being online.

Mario Kart Online >>>>>>> Mario Kart GBA.
 
soundwave05 said:
Meh ... really I think the GBA's library is heavily, heavily overrated.

In a year's time the DS will have a way better library than the GBA ever did with a ton of them being online.


I strongly disagree, but to each his own....I guess. Stuff like the three Castlevania games, FFT: Advance, Zelda, Mario and Luigi, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, Metroid:ZM and Fusion, Golden Sun, Klonoa, the Mario Advance titles. Gonna be tough for the DS to top, especially in a year. Just my 2 cents.
 
DS will have New Super Mario Brothers, Final Fantasy III (likely heavily updated), Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, Pokemon (online?), Viewtiful Joe, Animal Crossing, and a crapload of others in a year, pretty much all the franchises you listed will be on the DS and will be better for it.

Castlevania and Advance Wars are already here.

From a software perspective, Nintendo seems much more focused on the DS to come up with more games, more original content, and more open to giving the fans what they want (new Mario, online, etc.). With the GBA honestly sometimes it seemed like they just went through the motions.

And third parties can do much more with the DS than they could with the GBA.
 
Word of warning to the morons:

You bought a Micro, know you are mad and want a revised SP.

You will buy an SP, cursing the big N the whole time.

Nintendo will release a DS with the revised screen, solving all of your problems,
and you will buy that too.

For those aspiring to not be morons....wait for the revised DS.

That is all.
 
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