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New Sony 2022 TVs reveal on January 4 2022
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dotnotbot
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1-2 months from now
Lognor
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Thanks. Welp, guess I'm waiting then! It'll give Sony a bit more time to try to figure out VRR on the A80J too. Can't believe it's taken this long and still no firmware update to add it. Big oof
kyliethicc
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Yeah idk. Clearly its got like the X90K stand. So the main cut will probably be build quality / design.
I'd assume they're just reusing A80J panels for this one, but maybe not.
dotnotbot
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Also inferior in-built sound.
sankt-Antonio
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Don't know if regular timeframes apply in covid times. As far as I know they have sold these TVs since launch without a price drop. Guess demand is there - at least that's the case in every other electronic device this and last year.
StateofMajora
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That A75k might be the woled to buy from Sony next year. Worse sound but at a discount is great if you use headphones / external speakers.
I wouldn’t worry about the build quality more than other oleds because you’re not guaranteed to get a good panel AT ALL even on Sony master series oled.
I wouldn’t worry about the build quality more than other oleds because you’re not guaranteed to get a good panel AT ALL even on Sony master series oled.
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kyliethicc
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Seems like Sony may have leaked their own prices on their site.
If true, then the A90K (42/48") will be fairly priced. About the same as the LG C2 42/48". The A95K isn't going to be insanely over priced either. But the Mini LED X95K and Z9K will apparently have pretty high prices.
Assuming the Sony Rewards points listed on their pages are correct, then the US prices for the 2022 Sony TVs are:
If true, then the A90K (42/48") will be fairly priced. About the same as the LG C2 42/48". The A95K isn't going to be insanely over priced either. But the Mini LED X95K and Z9K will apparently have pretty high prices.
Assuming the Sony Rewards points listed on their pages are correct, then the US prices for the 2022 Sony TVs are:
A95K
55 $3000
65 $4000
A90K
42 $1400
48 $1500
A80K
55 $1800
65 $2300
77 $3500
X95K
65 $2800
75 $3800
85 $5500
X90K
55 $1300
65 $1500
75 $2000
85 $3000
Z9K
75 $7000
85 $10000
55 $3000
65 $4000
A90K
42 $1400
48 $1500
A80K
55 $1800
65 $2300
77 $3500
X95K
65 $2800
75 $3800
85 $5500
X90K
55 $1300
65 $1500
75 $2000
85 $3000
Z9K
75 $7000
85 $10000
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NeoIkaruGAF
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A90K is outrageously affordable for a Sony TV. I'm very curious about its motion handling and gaming features. Can't wait for reviews.
dotnotbot
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Exact same as last year's A80/A90J.
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RoadHazard
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QD-OLED panels aren't made in those sizes yet, only 55 and 65.
EDMIX
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I never knew that, I might just wait until next year before buying one of that size. I wanted to get something around that size when I get a PS5 at the same time, as I got a 4K Samsung QLED the day I got my PS4 Pro to jump in to 4K (was glorious asf mind you).
I'll just wait then.
I need to move lots of e-commerce units before I can justify such a purchase.
StateofMajora
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I should certainly hope not. At the very least all the 2.1 stuff is promised to be working out of the box this year unlike last but i’m holding out hope that the XR chip performs differently this year with regards to processing esp. motion.
If these prices are confirmed and reviews are great I'm getting the 55A95K.
dotnotbot
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VRR will be provided via update and by the time new models release this update should be ready so that's why 2.1 stuff is promised to work out of box.
But everything points to processor being exactly the same this year. So at the very best we should only expect some minor software tweaks. This is a sad situation for Z9K because it won't be able to do 8k@60 with VRR at the same time (or 8k@120 at all). And there is still a big unknown whether local dimming will work with VRR.
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kyliethicc
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Yeah they kinda have to keep the A90K under $1500 because the 42" / 48" LG C2 will be selling for around $1000-$1500.
S0ULZB0URNE
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My eye is on the X95K.
DenchDeckard
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So these tvs launch with all the gaming features that LG have out of the box? HDMI 2.1 VRR etc?
dotnotbot
Member
Except Dolby Vision game mode and HGiG (those 2 features aren't part of HDMI 2.1 of course).
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thebigmanjosh
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If the A95K price is accurate and the new panel is as good as it should be I may bite on the 65”. I love my A90J but we rearranged the tv room since buying it and 55” is too small now
Dr Bass
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Wasn’t there supposed to be a 95 or 98 in one of those lines?
StateofMajora
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Yeah I don’t think vrr is going to be any good sadly. It’s not important to me though.
The processor seems to be the same but I at least hope they can eliminate the judder I witnessed on my A80J and i’ve seen similar judder on x90j in videos. Hopefully it was due to a bug.
StateofMajora
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I haven’t heard anything about dolby vision gaming for Sony (although judging by hdtvtest videos it can look worse than regular hdr) but hgig has already been updated on 2021 sony sets right?
I’ve heard that hgig support will be there out of the box this year.
dotnotbot
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That feature Sony introduced and already added just sets HDR configuration screen on PS5 automatically. TV's tone-mapping is still on so it's not HGiG, HGiG should be tone-mapping done entirely on the source device.
StateofMajora
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Hmm so there’s no hgig setting toggle like LG? Hopefully it’s added this year…
kyliethicc
Member
LG has a 97" OLED TV now, but idk if any rumors indicated that Sony would.
Sony did make a 100" LCD last year tho. So idk.
LG Unleashes Monster 97-Inch OLED TV
LG's new G2 series of OLED TVs will have extra-large 83- and 97-inch versions, while the C2 line introduces a modest 42-inch model.
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kyliethicc
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There is no need for any HGiG mode on a TV.
And Sony would know cause they run HGiG.
They even say this on the site:
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StateofMajora
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They say that but their auto mode on ps5 doesn’t work correctly and before any hgig updates on A80J I saw that its hdr pales in comparison with the lg c1 with hgig on.There is no need for any HGiG mode on a TV.
And Sony would know cause they run HGiG.
They even say this on the site:
C1 was easily the best looking hdr on a tv i’ve owned for games.
dotnotbot
Member
There is no need for any HGiG mode on a TV.
And Sony would know cause they run HGiG.
They even say this on the site:
Yes, there's no need for a dedicated HGiG mode, all you need is a toggle to turn off tone-mapping on the TV. Sony's newest TVs have that toggle but the problem is that with tone-mapping off they're undertracking EOTF, meaning everything is darker than reference. Sony could correct that with a firmware update but they didn't so far.
StateofMajora
Banned
That explains it.
kyliethicc
Member
Sony's current setup seems fine to me. They let you disable tone mapping for more precise calibration. Then you can always just turn it back on after the calibration is done.
TrebleShot
Member
For Sony TV or any OLED?
In game LG C9
Brightness -2
Shadow detail 0
Highlights -8
Mad but games HDR is borked GG gonna be busy this Monday.
kyliethicc
Member
Go ask in the HFW OT. Don't just bump this thread for off topic discussions cmon.
lol ew you're capping highlights at like 400-500 nits. Might as well just play in SDR if you're gonna butcher the dynamic range.
TrebleShot
Member
Seems the output at these settings is at 750-800 nits in highlighted light sources.
kyliethicc
Member
Doubt it. Guy's vids are usually full of shit.
GHG
Gold Member
Provided you have your global HDR settings set up correctly then you shouldn't need to make huge adjustments and the defaults might well be correct.
In my case -1 brightness was perfect on the OLED. The main thing to look out for in the preview image is making sure you're not getting any clipping in the bright areas of the sky.
Doesn't seem to be correct. HDTVtest are the only people to trust when it comes to stuff like this. Other than that it's best to just use your eyes on the preview image and figure which points result in a loss of detail.
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TrebleShot
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Yeah? Who said that?
Seems to know his stuff
Kerotan
Member
A Sony LED TV. X900J.
kyliethicc
Member
mitchman
Gold Member
Still only a single HDMI 2.1 port for all practical purposes if you also use a receiver, as the other 2.1 port is for eARC. That's a hard no for me unfortunately, I need at least 3x HDMI 2.1 ports for my PC, PS5 and XSX, and the eARC port to the receiver. Will be interesting to see what Samsung will do with QD-OLED, they invented the technology after all and make their own SOC with 4x 2.1 ports.
Lone Wolf
Member
Deal breaker for me as well. Can’t figure out why they keep doing this. Every port should be 2.1 at this point. I know Samsungs QN90B flagship QLED now has four 2.1 ports, so most likely the OLEDs will too.
Rocco Schiavone
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They do this because of the shitty Mediatek SOC.
Lognor
Banned
How did they fuck this up AGAIN!?
SMH. I just bought the A80J which has the same limited HDMI 2.1 ports, but since I only have the XSX hooked up it's not an issue for me at this point.
But if you have a receiver that supports HDMI 2.1 can't you hook the PS5, PC and XSX up to that? Why do you need separate ports on the tv?
Lone Wolf
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I thought Sony didn’t use Mediatek?
dotnotbot
Member
New 2022 models have the same SOC as 2021 models. Changing SOC every year is too costly and takes time.