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New Super Mario Bros. 2 |OT| Coins!
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Stephen Totilo is the best thing to happen to Kotaku for awhile. His reviews are usually top-notch and fair.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Do the 'rehash' claims centre on the fact that it's simply another Mario game only?
I ask as within the game are new ideas, designs, enemies, items and gameplay focus alongside a host of other new things such as Coin Rush and handheld co-op for the first time.
There are also numerous improvements such as a tighter controlling and better animated Mario for one.
The only thing truly rehashed is the music and even that is riddled with subtle changes.
I think the criticisms have been way overblown here.
I ask as within the game are new ideas, designs, enemies, items and gameplay focus alongside a host of other new things such as Coin Rush and handheld co-op for the first time.
There are also numerous improvements such as a tighter controlling and better animated Mario for one.
The only thing truly rehashed is the music and even that is riddled with subtle changes.
I think the criticisms have been way overblown here.
Anyone who berates Mario or Nintendo games in general for "rehashing" better damn well do the same for Madden, FIFA, etc. Only, they practically are the same game re-released yearly with minimal improvements. At the very least Call of Duty has a fresh campaign and new multiplayer mechanics every time.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The thing you'll find about NSMB criticisms, is that before people could fairly claim Nintendo was "milking it", these were the precise same reactions the moment NSMB Wii was unveiled. Despite the fact that Nintendo had, as a matter of course, always made at least one portable, and one console, version of many of their games each generation - like how Mario Kart is handled.
I always felt what really irked people about NSMB is that they wanted a game that looked like Super Mario World; that's pretty much it. Preferences are fine, we all have them. But overblowing how 'cheap' or 'cash in' the games were, was there from day 1.
One Mario Kart per platform.
One Smash Bros per home console.
At least one Fire Emblem per console.
One Animal Crossing, etc, etc.
NSMB is only considered annualized because the franchise was launched in the middle of the last generation, pushing the new games in closer proximity.
It just seems that way with so many games with Mario in the title release in 12 months.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Crazy thing is that other franchises which people don't seem to mind constant refreshes of are worse games than any/all of the Mario games. Truly bizarre.
Beyond the aesthetics, as there is no denying the similarities of each NSMB games visual design, lies the fact that each NSMB game feels like a new game.
It was shocking how different NSMB felt after I had played NSMBW and I'm sure the same will likely be said of NSMBW once I've throughly gone through NSMB2 too.
Nobody seems to acknowledge that within this 'greatly rehashed' series that the three entires we've had spread across six years each offer unique leaps over their predecessor.
These are all conveniently ignored because, as you say, these games look neither like Mario World nor how people might imagine they'd like them to look and so of course Nintendo laziness is at fault.
Seven Force
Banned
Wait, did they seriously not specify PST or EST? Huh.
Yeah, I believe thats how it was in Japan, but the eShop seems to say Midnight! So hopefully Midnight.
The real bummer of it is since it says Midnight. It better not mean Midnight on the west coast. I live on the east coast and would hate for the store to be lying to me. ha
Inferno313
Banned
It's almost certainly West Coast, Nintendo always goes by west coast times in their press releases I think.
Its not from a PR. It says it right there on the eShop. I agree with you though and don't think i'll be able to download it until 3 A.M.
Yes but they have taken it out.. maybe because it's gonna be a different price? I hope not!
StreetsAhead
Member
Are the
enemies in 6-4 new? Or am I just forgetting them?
crow
I think I remember crows in NSMB1
they're from nsmb
Just trying to figure out at what time it was available for download in Japan. I remember hearing it was later in the day, say early afternoon.
The Wheel of Fortune
Member
I remember them mostly from NSMBWii. They were a little annoying at some parts.
Yeah, I was wondering that, too. The download can wait, but I hope the reason they took the price down a while ago wasn't because it was actually $45 or something.
Hmm, nice review. Haven't heard about Totilo, but he seems like a good reviewer. I hope he keeps that way.
I think it was 9am in Japan, but I'm not too sure about that
Yeah, I think so too. Thanks for your help.
Seven Force
Banned
It was around 10 AM in Japan, I believe.
Drago, I like your posts, but don't post this as fact unless ya know it's fact, ya know? =)
perfectchaos007
Member
It's borderline sad how much Nintendo is trying to strictly promote the downloadable version of this game. From the double coins Club Nintendo promotion, to the redesigning of the e-shop, as well as the Spot Pass letters from Nintendo sent to my 3DS that say "Buy it on the e-shop so you can play it first at midnight!!" Or, you know, we can pick it up at Wal-Mart at midnight like the old days....but Nintendo won't remind you about that. Screw you Nintendo, I'm picking up my copy IN STORE tomorrow in protest to the non-discounted digital future.
WiiRevolution1
Member
Yea it is kinda insane especially since its Nintendo. It just seems wierd that Nintendo is doing this for a downloadable game.
Fifteen more minutes! I AM EXCITE! It better come out midnight eastern. If it was pacific then they would've said it was surely since they do for the weekly updates, the eShop's opening (lol at the delays for that tho) and the check mii out channel.
So since they didn't specify pacific it has to be eastern it has to be.
Ninty pls.
Nintendo gets 100% of the revenue brought in from an eShop sale and this is their first major digital release. Why are you surprised they are pushing it?
minor effort
Banned
I understand, but considering the fact that the 3DS has such wonderful region protection, it will make it easier for me. I have an NA 3DS but I'm outside of NA at the moment, so getting games can be costly + annoying. For that reason I'm kind of excited about downloading full 3DS games.
Inferno313
Banned
I don't get why everyone thinks the digital version should be discounted. Steam games aren't discounted, retail games on PSN and XBL Games on Demand aren't discounted.
minor effort
Banned
It's up. Downloading now.
MatthewB92
Member
Downloading 
Yep. There is no industry-wide precedence for cheaper digital games, yet people think it should be expected.
Sony discounts all their first party Vita offerings. Honestly, why shouldn't it be discounted? You're cutting substantial costs by not having the physical media, shipping it, and giving a cut to 3rd party retailers. Even take off just $5 would be nice, and they would still make a killing off it compared to selling a physical version.
Either, think I'll be picking up my copy tomorrow morning.. just need to decide if I want a 3rd 3DS in the XL, haha.
darkressurection
Banned
Downloading now!
perfectchaos007
Member
I'm not surprised, just saddened. It's a shameless promotion, but definitely warranted due to the lack of any revenue going to a retailer. Nintendo and other publishers would love nothing more than having an all Digital Distribution future. 100% of profits + price control. I just don't want to see Nintendo succeed at this given their vocal history of opposing discounting older games.
nhlducks35
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Inferno313
Banned
DOWNLOADING. THE FUTURE.