New (yes even newer than that last one) Star Wars The Force Awakens TV Spot

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The colors in this movie are just gorgeous. Lush and popping in every shot.

I'm partial to the last scene there with Han, with the bright dangerous red contrasting with the Imperial grey. Its looks ominous, and there's a lot of depth in the shot, with the red of the Empire coming in, Chewie in the middleground, and Han/Finn with our focus in the foreground. Its Star Wars, but its distinctly modern.

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A new Star Wars movie in 30 days! And it might actually be good!
 
There's something about that shot where Finn raises the lightsaber that reminds me of the OT lightsaber effects. Can't really put my finger on it. Maybe I'm just seeing things.

I agree, there's a nice flickery quality that invokes the style of the OT lightsabers. The prequel lightsabers were very static.

I like to think the OT lightsabers are aged, which gives that flickery quality. I can't explain Luke's green saber though heh.
 
The most competent Stormtrooper since "Look sir, droids!"

Yeah, weird seeing Stormtroopers that seem to know what they're doing. He even gets kinda settled into a horse stance or something too, haha.

It would be pretty cool if JJ really tried to portray the Stormtroopers as a terrifying group of soldiers that actually seem capable of burning people alive versus the comedic morons they were by the end of ROTJ.
 
I'm partial to the last scene there with Han, with the bright dangerous red contrasting with the Imperial grey. Its looks ominous, and there's a lot of depth in the shot, with the red of the Empire coming in, Chewie in the middleground, and Han/Finn with our focus in the foreground. Its Star Wars, but its distinctly modern.

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A new Star Wars movie in 30 days! And it might actually be good!

So is Chewey jerking off?
 
There's nothing to back up my worry so far, but I really hope this doesn't end up just being a modern action movie with a Star Wars skin much like how Battlefront is just a mediocre Battlefield with a Star Wars skin.

I feel the reception would still be good even if it turned out to be nothing special since Star Wars fans are starved for something that isn't bad. Fan service should be enough to win the majority of people over. I kind of get the feeling they are really going to play it safe with this one.
 
There's nothing to back up my worry so far, but I really hope this doesn't end up just being a modern action movie with a Star Wars skin much like how Battlefront is just a mediocre Battlefield with a Star Wars skin.

I feel the reception would still be good even if it turned out to be nothing special since Star Wars fans are starved for something that isn't bad. Fan service should be enough to win the majority of people over. I kind of get the feeling they are really going to play it safe with this one.

Pretty much my biggest fear also. JJ's movies have all been one and dones for me to date and forgettable. I'm at least hoping for a depth and complexity that matches the first trilogy, if not moreso.
 
How to say this:

Star Wars and Empire aren't particularly deep or complex. That's not to say they're big and dumb, because people are going to automatically hear something like that and amplify it like a motherfucker. But the "Depth and Complexity" of Star Wars isn't outside of Abrams' wheelhouse at all. He's hit it at least twice now with Mission Impossible III and Star Trek '09. Three times if you wanna count the LOST pilot.

I also don't know if "play it safe" is such a bad thing. It's the seventh movie in a series that just recently had a huge, well-shared article written about the studio's intent to make these movies forever. The last three movies in this series didn't really play it safe. They tried to do something different within that framework, and a lot of people didn't appreciate the attempt, much less the execution.

Not wanting JJ Abrams to fuck it up is a pretty basic thing. It's not a hard position to hold, yunno? But suggesting that "fanservice" is going to be the answer for audience satisfaction seems like a false note to strike, especially since the term "fanservice" is weighted down with all kinds of negative connotations. It basically stacks the deck towards the idea that even if the film succeeds, it didn't really, because it had to pander to stupid people to get over.
 
How to say this:

Star Wars and Empire aren't particularly deep or complex. That's not to say they're big and dumb, because people are going to automatically hear something like that and amplify it like a motherfucker. But the "Depth and Complexity" of Star Wars isn't outside of Abrams' wheelhouse at all. He's hit it at least twice now with Mission Impossible III and Star Trek '09. Three times if you wanna count the LOST pilot.

I also don't know if "play it safe" is such a bad thing. It's the seventh movie in a series that just recently had a huge, well-shared article written about the studio's intent to make these movies forever. The last three movies in this series didn't really play it safe. They tried to do something different within that framework, and a lot of people didn't appreciate the attempt, much less the execution.

Not wanting JJ Abrams to fuck it up is a pretty basic thing. It's not a hard position to hold, yunno? But suggesting that "fanservice" is going to be the answer for audience satisfaction seems like a false note to strike, especially since the term "fanservice" is weighted down with all kinds of negative connotations. It basically stacks the deck towards the idea that even if the film succeeds, it didn't really, because it had to pander to stupid people to get over.

The original trilogy isn't too deep or complex, but the thing is that they had substance. It felt that they were made with the ending in mind, so every second of those movies felt meaningful. What I'm fearing is that this one is going to feel more like an episode in a season of a TV show and will lack any real progression of the main plot. In the end, the good guys will win and largely nothing has changed.

What I really like about the original trilogy is that it had you at the edge of your seat at all times. It actually gave you that feeling of this chaotic space civilization where anything could happen at any time.
 
The original trilogy is too deep or complex, but the thing is that they had substance. It felt that they were made with the ending in mind, so every second of those movies felt meaningful. What I'm fearing is that this one is going to feel more like an episode in a season of a TV show and will lack any real progression of the main plot. In the end, the good guys will win and largely nothing has changed.
Id imagine it will end similar to a new hope where they win the battle that took place over the movie but not the war
 
It will be nice if they can make the stormtroopers into more than a punchline. That's something even the OT couldn't accomplish.
 
The way he squares up on Finn makes me wonder if he knows him and if that specific storm trooper isn't carrying a grudge
 
So hyped for that Fin Stormtrooper fight. Love how it looks as though the film's treating the Stormtroopers as an actual threat. With the "raised to do one thing" line, it makes sense they'd at least be somewhat proficient. I really like how much material they appear to be drawing from McQuarrie's art too.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is one of the Raid guys.
 
So hyped for that Fin Stormtrooper fight. Love how it looks as though the film's treating the Stormtroopers as an actual threat. With the "raised to do one thing" line, it makes sense they'd at least be somewhat proficient. I really like how much material they appear to be drawing from McQuarrie's art too.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is one of the Raid guys.

I hadn't even considered that angle. I've seen so many comments about how Finn is basically gonna be incompetent with the light saber and not really know what he's doing. But yeah, he's been "raised to do one thing". He knows how the storm troopers are trained to fight - he is one of them. With a light saber. Finn's ready for this.
 
I hadn't even considered that angle. I've seen so many comments about how Finn is basically gonna be incompetent with the light saber and not really know what he's doing. But yeah, he's been "raised to do one thing". He knows how the storm troopers are trained to fight - he is one of them. With a light saber. Finn's ready for this.

The only problem is what we've seen of Kylo shows he's pretty damn skilled with a saber. The look of fear on Finn's face during the fight doesn't bode well.
 

Rod once saw a Jedi in action during a tour of duty and since then he had brooded over how to counter them cutting down his comrades.
He meticulously built a prototype rod his colleagues laughed off as ridiculous but he kept his cool and kept building away at it in his free-time between shifts on board the Star destroyer.
When he got called to the troop transport to do a ground assault against Finn and Co he knew his time had come. He practiced one more time how to extend the rod and then packed it away.
When the doors opened on that transport, he knew it was the day of destiny. He saw this rebel scum fiddling with the blue saber, approached him confidently and drew his rod.
CHING. This is for all those droid and trooper arms you people cut off. It ends here.
His comrades called him Rod Trooper from this day on and he became the stuff of legend.
 
So hyped for that Fin Stormtrooper fight. Love how it looks as though the film's treating the Stormtroopers as an actual threat. With the "raised to do one thing" line, it makes sense they'd at least be somewhat proficient. I really like how much material they appear to be drawing from McQuarrie's art too.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is one of the Raid guys.

I was listening to the laserdisc audio commentary for episode IV last night, and one interesting bit was someone talking about the original design for R2-D2:

"The first one I did, I think he had a spherical bottom. It was like a ball bearing that would roll around, he could go any direction. He had gyroscopes in him, so he didn't fall over, and he just leaned into whatever direction he wanted to do and spun his single wheel which was really a sphere. Which sounded pretty interesting, but was pretty difficult to do in reality."

Sounds a lot like a new robot we're getting, so I guess they're pulling from plenty of old material.

What's the third? I can only remember Han saying it while leaving the hangar on Hoth to rescue Luke.

"What the hell are you doing?!"
 
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